Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - 2025 Off-season

[MickeyDavis]

People in charge are slow to admit mistakes. It eflects badly on them. But they don't realize it reflects even worse if you don't admit mistakes.

Ego and pride get in the way of doing the right thing.

Definitely. Most of us have worked for people like that. The key to getting them to change/do the right thing is to make them think it was their idea. If an assistant(s) went to Doc and said "I think we should make xxxx change", he's probably not going to do it, no matter how much logic there may be to make the change. But convincing/manipulating someone to think that something is their idea even when it isn't is a skill not many have.

[Bernman]

Even if Ajax calmed down he'd still be aloof & only averaged 6 pts a game after a few yrs in college. Can you name a non center who did that and went on to be a good pro? He was another bad pick we should cut our losses on. Dump the end of roster fluff. Start anew.

[MickeyDavis]

I'd like to sign Green to a reasonable extension if possible (I don't know what that might be). He may want to play out the year, knowing he will see increased PT, before hitting FA.

[Bernman]

Green doesn't have lifetime financial security, so if he's offered something like 2/14 tacked on to what he's made, you figure he takes that.

[Matches Malone]

I wonder what it would take to pry Ajay Mitchell away from OKC. They're pretty deep with another couple of 1sts coming in this year, maybe we could find a way to grab him. Reminds me of Brogdon a bit.

I love trading for rookies we could have just drafted with one of our picks, but yeah, he’d be awesome here. Brogdon/Midds sort of composure, and I like the look of his 3 level scoring potential and floor game.

Find a way to get him and Joe to replace Trent, and we’re cookin’.

Oh, trust me I know. I was pounding the table for Ajay during the draft as one of the options for us, but you know how Horst loves to "Swing for the fences."

[emunney]

I'd like to sign Green to a reasonable extension if possible (I don't know what that might be). He may want to play out the year, knowing he will see increased PT, before hitting FA.

If we could get him for like 4/40, that would be a monster win.

[ShootingtheJ]

I'd like to sign Green to a reasonable extension if possible (I don't know what that might be). He may want to play out the year, knowing he will see increased PT, before hitting FA.

If we could get him for like 4/40, that would be a monster win.

It's tricky. He'll likely want the same deal as Isaiah Joe, but the Thunder will likely looking to dump Joe because of his contract. Money is going to be tight around the league this offseason. I'm guessing tons of players sign deals at the amount of the TMLE.

[emunney]

Dre needs to play with a lot more discipline defensively and a lot more aggression offensively. Finding a balance between aggression and patience can be a difficult thing to transition to the speed of the league.I think he'll get it, but I'm increasingly skeptical it'll be with us.

I bet we have him taking hundreds of corner 3s every day when ball handling and footwork are the real swing skills for him.

[BUCKnation]

Id feel comfortable offering something like what Pritchard got a couple years ago, probably a few million less annually however

[midranger]

Is it fair to operate under the assumption that Tyler Smith becomes Chris Bosh over the summer?

[machu46]

Dre needs to play with a lot more discipline defensively and a lot more aggression offensively. Finding a balance between aggression and patience can be a difficult thing to transition to the speed of the league.I think he'll get it, but I'm increasingly skeptical it'll be with us.

I bet we have him taking hundreds of corner 3s every day when ball handling and footwork are the real swing skills for him.

He's simply way too passive offensively to help a team right now. The defense isn't strong enough to outweigh being completely invisible on offense. Issue is I don't think the offensive ability is there even if he learns to be more aggressive. He just doesn't really have NBA scoring ability IMO.

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[MickeyDavis]

Green is 3 years younger than Merrill, played more MPG this season, shot better, rebounded better. Merrill is a free agent to be, it will be interesting to see what he gets. He's coming off a 3 year deal averaging $1.7 million.

[MickeyDavis]

Dre needs to play with a lot more discipline defensively and a lot more aggression offensively. Finding a balance between aggression and patience can be a difficult thing to transition to the speed of the league.I think he'll get it, but I'm increasingly skeptical it'll be with us.

I bet we have him taking hundreds of corner 3s every day when ball handling and footwork are the real swing skills for him.

He's simply way too passive offensively to help a team right now. The defense isn't strong enough to outweigh being completely invisible on offense. Issue is I don't think the offensive ability is there even if he learns to be more aggressive. He just doesn't really have NBA scoring ability IMO.

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He's a pinball on defense, which is sometimes disruptive, sometimes not. On offense, he's completely lost.

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[yb90]

Even if Ajax calmed down he'd still be aloof & only averaged 6 pts a game after a few yrs in college. Can you name a non center who did that and went on to be a good pro? He was another bad pick we should cut our losses on. Dump the end of roster fluff. Start anew.

Pat C, Gary Payton II, and T.J. McConnell if you are looking at players avg around 6 pts to start their career.

He needs to become a student of the game if he wants to stick around. He should study Josh Hart, Gary Payton II, and Jrue Holiday offensive game and how they play in the Dunkers position and how they cut. If he could add that to his game he could probably make it as a rotation guy.

[Frank Nova]

Dre needs to play with a lot more discipline defensively and a lot more aggression offensively. Finding a balance between aggression and patience can be a difficult thing to transition to the speed of the league.I think he'll get it, but I'm increasingly skeptical it'll be with us.

I bet we have him taking hundreds of corner 3s every day when ball handling and footwork are the real swing skills for him.

He's simply way too passive offensively to help a team right now. The defense isn't strong enough to outweigh being completely invisible on offense. Issue is I don't think the offensive ability is there even if he learns to be more aggressive. He just doesn't really have NBA scoring ability IMO.

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He's a pinball on defense, which is sometimes disruptive, sometimes not. On offense, he's completely lost.

A pinball, I like that. It’s really fitting for Jackson Jr, it’s part of his spastic nature. I said the Tasmanian devil which is probably about the same thing but I do kinda like pinball better. The thing that actually sucks about Ajax is his aggressive prowess plays itself off the court. The refs aren’t ever going to officiate him like the Draymond Green/Pj Tucker bully he tries to emulate. You watch someone like Jaden McDaniels and he moves his feet and times everything so well he doesn’t have to bump and grind (pause) to let his presence be felt. He needs to spend all off season working on that aspect of his defense more than the shooting imo. He could really become a more useful player with better movement skills and timing. While the 3/D archetype is what role players strive for, slasher/D can definitely be his schtick.

[Bernman]

Even if Ajax calmed down he'd still be aloof & only averaged 6 pts a game after a few yrs in college. Can you name a non center who did that and went on to be a good pro? He was another bad pick we should cut our losses on. Dump the end of roster fluff. Start anew.

Pat C, GP II, and T.J. McConnell if you are looking at players avg around 6 pts to start their career.

He needs to become a student of the game if he wants to stick around. He should study Josh Hart, Gary Payton II, and Jrue Holiday offensive game and how they play in the Dunkers position and how they cut. If he could add that to his game he could probably make it as a rotation guy.

Connaughton as college jr.: 13.8
GP2 as soph: 16
McConnell as jr.: 8.4 (10.4 as sr)

Jackson: 6.7

So no, none were that embarrassingly bad at scoring, by the time they declared as college vets. I've still yet to get an answer which wing who was that succeeded in the NBA.

McConnell, & Herb Jones posting 7.9 as jr then 11.2 as senior, is the closest I know of. Ajax never demonstrated he was more than a 6+ pt scorer on any level. And in the pros that's w/ surprisingly not terrible outside shooting. That's a big improvement. He doesn't have an offensive foundation.

[yb90]

Even if Ajax calmed down he'd still be aloof & only averaged 6 pts a game after a few yrs in college. Can you name a non center who did that and went on to be a good pro? He was another bad pick we should cut our losses on. Dump the end of roster fluff. Start anew.

Pat C, GP II, and T.J. McConnell if you are looking at players avg around 6 pts to start their career.

He needs to become a student of the game if he wants to stick around. He should study Josh Hart, Gary Payton II, and Jrue Holiday offensive game and how they play in the Dunkers position and how they cut. If he could add that to his game he could probably make it as a rotation guy.

Connaughton as college jr.: 13.8
GP2 as soph: 16
McConnell as jr.: 8.4 (10.4 as sr)

Jackson: 6.7

So no, none were that embarrassingly bad at scoring, by the time they declared as college vets. I've still yet to get an answer which wing who was that succeeded in the NBA.

McConnell, & Herb Jones posting 7.9 as jr then 11.2 as senior, is the closest I know of. Ajax never demonstrated he was more than a 6+ pt scorer on any level. And in the pros that's w/ surprisingly not terrible outside shooting. That's a big improvement. He doesn't have an offensive foundation.

Gottcha, I misread your original post. I was talking about their NBA stats. My bad.

[BigO]

The guy I want as a low cost defender and rebounder is Kevon Looney.

He can't score so he can't spread the floor, but he's a winner, good rebounder, great teammate, excellent defender and should come on the cheap.

I think he'll be a free agent.

Sign him Horst, after you fire Doc.

[Brewhoopfan]

Even if Ajax calmed down he'd still be aloof & only averaged 6 pts a game after a few yrs in college. Can you name a non center who did that and went on to be a good pro? He was another bad pick we should cut our losses on. Dump the end of roster fluff. Start anew.

Pat C, GP II, and T.J. McConnell if you are looking at players avg around 6 pts to start their career.

He needs to become a student of the game if he wants to stick around. He should study Josh Hart, Gary Payton II, and Jrue Holiday offensive game and how they play in the Dunkers position and how they cut. If he could add that to his game he could probably make it as a rotation guy.

Connaughton as college jr.: 13.8
GP2 as soph: 16
McConnell as jr.: 8.4 (10.4 as sr)

Jackson: 6.7

So no, none were that embarrassingly bad at scoring, by the time they declared as college vets. I've still yet to get an answer which wing who was that succeeded in the NBA.

McConnell, & Herb Jones posting 7.9 as jr then 11.2 as senior, is the closest I know of. Ajax never demonstrated he was more than a 6+ pt scorer on any level. And in the pros that's w/ surprisingly not terrible outside shooting. That's a big improvement. He doesn't have an offensive foundation.

None of them have the ups of AJax and he's a decent cutter. Hard to fathom why he won't use his athleticism to attack the rim nonstop.