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2025 Draft prospects - thread 2

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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#661 » by CROBulls » Mon May 12, 2025 4:13 pm

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TheSuzerain wrote:Maluach at the top of the draft is iffy and I think there was a while there he was overrated (which has been corrected or even over corrected after Houston game).

He'd be a steal at #12.

All you guys gonna hate him when in his 3rd or 4th year before rookie deal expires goes without a rebound in a game and you know AKME is gonna give him north of 30M per year extension. I cannot wait.

So, literally any player that AK selects?

Buzelis is gonna be gamer. And that's despite of this clown GM.
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Post#662 » by Rose2Boozer » Mon May 12, 2025 4:17 pm

The Pelicans are my first pick prediction.
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Post#663 » by BullsSD » Mon May 12, 2025 5:09 pm

Rose2Boozer wrote:The Pelicans are my first pick prediction.


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Post#664 » by DuckIII » Mon May 12, 2025 5:31 pm

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WindyCityBorn wrote:Someone watch this and tell me why Newell shouldn’t be pick at 12. Tall, athletic, great hops, strong finisher at the rim, strong on the offensive boards, good outside shooting touch. All of that in the best conference in college basketball. Yes Matas can play the 3.

https://youtu.be/sI0XJIKX_68?si=IU5C4GfE6JV30u4E


Only concern on Newell over Maluach is Newell gets cooked vs Jokic, Wemby, Holmgen, Harstein, Adams, etc. etc. We have to have a big rim protector to compete. It’s new age ball.


Maluach is not “my guy.” But my ranking of Maluach vs. Newell for the Bulls looks something like this:

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Post#665 » by kodo » Mon May 12, 2025 5:48 pm

Newell is 18th on the CBS big board updated for tonight. EDIT: I guess he's outlier low on CBS, other mocks have him in our range.
I feel like a Newell pick is drafting by need instead of BPA.
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Post#666 » by TheJordanRule » Mon May 12, 2025 6:18 pm

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TheJordanRule wrote:I still don't get why Egor Demin is projected to be available. He's got NBA level quickness at SG and Giddey style court vision. Imagine we start building around those two big young guards and Buz.... #Drooling


I’m on record repeatedly that though Demin is not my top choice among guys who reasonably could be there at 12, he’s absolutely 100% in play for me. I don’t consider it redundant with Giddey. I view it as having 2 of the tallest, best wing passers in the entire NBA. Be different. Try something new. We have nothing to lose.

That said, Demin does not have NBA level shooting guard quickness. He’s slower than Giddey, and uses his size, handle and feel to offset pretty subpar footspeed. He’ll be able to get open on offense with savvy, but he’s going to struggle a lot on D due to his frame and pedestrian quicks.

Whoever we take at 12, I just hope it’s someone with unique attributes that could translate into something special. Demin is one of those guys. If they bust they bust. I don’t want to draft a nice solid MLE guy who “helps right away.”


I agree that Demin's straight line speed is not good, Duck, but what he can do is the Luka thing, where he's shocking you with bursts of speed despite that lack of blinding Ferarri speed. He's the car that can go zero to sixty in the blink of an eye, but can't reach 100 mph ever. He gets to the hoop and dunks with that first step off a screen pretty consistently. I don't spend tons of time watching film like I used to, but Egor is coming across as an elite prospect for the new NBA. Watch him use those screens / picks to free up for frequent high percentage trips to the basket. His passing is out of this world, but don't sleep on that bread and butter pick and roll game. Absurd amount of upside for a guy projected to go at 12 or lower.
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Post#668 » by CobysHairpick » Mon May 12, 2025 7:38 pm

Late to the party but I have to agree with board consensus regarding Maluach. I just don't see a high enough ceiling with a Gobert-like archetype, and that's assuming Maluach would be an elite rebounder like Gobert is. Maluach has zero offensive game besides running to the rim or waiting baseline for a lob. He's not even an elite defender as he's still new to the game. I honestly think there's enough good talent in this draft to look elsewhere even if Maluach is there at 12 assuming the Bulls don't move up.

I'd rather take a chance on Carter Bryant and see if he can develop into a Jalen Johnson-esque player. He'd be a fantastic fit next to Giddey, Coby, and Matas as the high energy 3&D with tremendous athleticism as an off ball threat.
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Post#669 » by CROBulls » Mon May 12, 2025 8:18 pm

CobysHairpick wrote:Late to the party but I have to agree with board consensus regarding Maluach. I just don't see a high enough ceiling with a Gobert-like archetype, and that's assuming Maluach would be an elite rebounder like Gobert is. Maluach has zero offensive game besides running to the rim or waiting baseline for a lob. He's not even an elite defender as he's still new to the game. I honestly think there's enough good talent in this draft to look elsewhere even if Maluach is there at 12 assuming the Bulls don't move up.

I'd rather take a chance on Carter Bryant and see if he can develop into a Jalen Johnson-esque player. He'd be a fantastic fit next to Giddey, Coby, and Matas as the high energy 3&D with tremendous athleticism as an off ball threat.

Carter Bryant is my number #1 target this draft. You get Carter Bryant, AKME might be forced to build a team. Instead just sitting at chair doing nothing
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Post#670 » by CobysHairpick » Mon May 12, 2025 8:34 pm

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CobysHairpick wrote:Late to the party but I have to agree with board consensus regarding Maluach. I just don't see a high enough ceiling with a Gobert-like archetype, and that's assuming Maluach would be an elite rebounder like Gobert is. Maluach has zero offensive game besides running to the rim or waiting baseline for a lob. He's not even an elite defender as he's still new to the game. I honestly think there's enough good talent in this draft to look elsewhere even if Maluach is there at 12 assuming the Bulls don't move up.

I'd rather take a chance on Carter Bryant and see if he can develop into a Jalen Johnson-esque player. He'd be a fantastic fit next to Giddey, Coby, and Matas as the high energy 3&D with tremendous athleticism as an off ball threat.

Carter Bryant is my number #1 target this draft. You get Carter Bryant, AKME might be forced to build a team. Instead just sitting at chair doing nothing

Surely even AK can tell that Carter Bryant would be huge for Giddey, Coby, and Matas right? Right??
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Post#671 » by nomorezorro » Mon May 12, 2025 8:43 pm

i'm not going to pretend i've done enough research into maluach to have a strong opinion on him as a prospect, but i think some people here are really, really underestimating the offensive impact of a big who finishes basically everything around the rim.

you can't just dismissively say a guy is just a catch+dunk prospect when the dude made 75% of his 2pt attempts. obviously the volume wasn't really as high as you'd like, but making 3/4 of your shots against actual defenders is really really good even if those shots are basically just dunks and layups! if he can maintain anything close to that at the nba level, he could very easily be a plus offensive player without having any other dimension to his game on that end of the court
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#672 » by BullsSD » Mon May 12, 2025 8:49 pm

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CobysHairpick wrote:Late to the party but I have to agree with board consensus regarding Maluach. I just don't see a high enough ceiling with a Gobert-like archetype, and that's assuming Maluach would be an elite rebounder like Gobert is. Maluach has zero offensive game besides running to the rim or waiting baseline for a lob. He's not even an elite defender as he's still new to the game. I honestly think there's enough good talent in this draft to look elsewhere even if Maluach is there at 12 assuming the Bulls don't move up.

I'd rather take a chance on Carter Bryant and see if he can develop into a Jalen Johnson-esque player. He'd be a fantastic fit next to Giddey, Coby, and Matas as the high energy 3&D with tremendous athleticism as an off ball threat.

Carter Bryant is my number #1 target this draft. You get Carter Bryant, AKME might be forced to build a team. Instead just sitting at chair doing nothing


My only knock on Bryant is that pushes Buzelis to the 4 and solidifies him there. Ideally, Buzelis would be the 3 on a longer, more defensive team.

Give me Fleming over Bryant, but OK with both of them.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#673 » by 2weekswithpay » Mon May 12, 2025 8:56 pm

CobysHairpick wrote:Late to the party but I have to agree with board consensus regarding Maluach. I just don't see a high enough ceiling with a Gobert-like archetype, and that's assuming Maluach would be an elite rebounder like Gobert is. Maluach has zero offensive game besides running to the rim or waiting baseline for a lob. He's not even an elite defender as he's still new to the game. I honestly think there's enough good talent in this draft to look elsewhere even if Maluach is there at 12 assuming the Bulls don't move up.

I'd rather take a chance on Carter Bryant and see if he can develop into a Jalen Johnson-esque player. He'd be a fantastic fit next to Giddey, Coby, and Matas as the high energy 3&D with tremendous athleticism as an off ball threat.


I don't think you need great offensive production from your center. Sometimes, defending, rebounding, and play finishing is enough. Skilled bigs are great and should be highly valued, but the tradeoff isn't always worth it. Most of these skilled bigs put a cap on your defense.

Many here would rather have Gafford over Vuc the last 3 seasons.
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