3 Giannis Trades to secure a top 3 pick in the draft

Godymas · Post #1 » by **Godymas** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:50 pm

Trade 1:

Dallas sends:

Klay Thompson
Daniel Gafford
PJ Washington
Caleb Martin

1st overall pick (assume Cooper Flagg)
2029 1st round pick from LA Lakers (unprotected)

Bucks send:

Giannis

Trade 2:

Spurs send (Spurs can take back more salary than they send out):

Devin Vassell
Keldon Johnson

2nd overall pick (assume Dylan Harper or Bailey)
2027 1st round pick via Atlanta
2x 2026 2nd rounders from other teams (unprotected)
1x 2028 2nd rounder from other team (unprotected)
2029 own 1st round pick (unprotected)
2030 1st round swap rights with Dallas or Minnesota (most favorable)

Bucks send:

Giannis

Trade 3:

76ers send:

Paul George
Eric Gordon

3rd overall pick (assume Bailey)
2028 Clippers 1st rounder (unprotected)
2028 76ers 1st rounder (unprotected)
2029 pick swap with LAC (1-3 protected)
2030 own 1st rounder (unprotected)

Post #2 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue May 13, 2025 12:57 pm

OP, we still require reasons why each team would make your proposed trade. I know the reasons seem obvious:

Other teams: Get Giannis
Bucks, Get top 3 pick plus

But please flesh this out a little bit.

Godaddycurse · Post #3 » by **Godaddycurse** » Tue May 13, 2025 1:02 pm

Why is dallas paying significantly more than the other teams

Post #4 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue May 13, 2025 1:05 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:Why is dallas paying significantly more than the other teams

Because a lot of posters don't understand the difference between pick 1 and 2 in most drafts, and definitely this one, is much greater than the difference between pick 2 and pick 60.

JHFVF07 · Post #5 » by **JHFVF07** » Tue May 13, 2025 1:25 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:Why is dallas paying significantly more than the other teams

Because a lot of posters don't understand the difference between pick 1 and 2 in most drafts, and definitely this one, is much greater than the difference between pick 2 and pick 60.

I love Gianis, but not trading #1 for him. I dont trust in Kyrie and AD health enough.

JayMKE · Post #6 » by **JayMKE** » Tue May 13, 2025 1:30 pm

Flagg is an intriguing prospect but wouldn’t do it unless Giannis demanded, don’t think Dallas after is really a better situation for Giannis with injured Kyrie and AD so kinda defeats purpose.

The other trades im not interested in because Harper/Bailey/etc way lower draft tier than Flagg

facothomas22 · Post #7 » by **facothomas22** » Tue May 13, 2025 1:49 pm

If Joel Emiid showed any signs he could be atleast somewhat healthy, I would've really liked trade #3. The fact and the matter is that he's not and he may never be again.The 76ers can't get afford to give up everything in terms of draft capital to order chase Giannis when his team still won't be true Championship contender. A good playoff team for sure, but not a team that can win it all. Based on that reason, I don't even see the 76ers as a team would be on Giannis list far as teams he want to go to.

ReggiesKnicks · Post #8 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Tue May 13, 2025 1:56 pm

JayMKE wrote:Flagg is an intriguing prospect but wouldn’t do it unless Giannis demanded, don’t think Dallas after is really a better situation for Giannis with injured Kyrie and AD so kinda defeats purpose.

The other trades im not interested in because Harper/Bailey/etc way lower draft tier than Flagg

Harper is as good of a prospect as Cade/Paolo.

Godymas · Post #9 » by **Godymas** » Tue May 13, 2025 2:05 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:Why is dallas paying significantly more than the other teams

Dallas has to salary match, if they want to keep Kyrie and AD that's the only way to salary match.

The additional pick might be overkill, but I figured it might be worth throwing it in to sweeten the deal since Dallas has to ship over guys of varying values.

Godymas · Post #10 » by **Godymas** » Tue May 13, 2025 2:06 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:Why is dallas paying significantly more than the other teams

Because a lot of posters don't understand the difference between pick 1 and 2 in most drafts, and definitely this one, is much greater than the difference between pick 2 and pick 60.

Dallas has to salary match, unless you want to trade AD for Giannis

JayMKE · Post #11 » by **JayMKE** » Tue May 13, 2025 2:13 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Flagg is an intriguing prospect but wouldn’t do it unless Giannis demanded, don’t think Dallas after is really a better situation for Giannis with injured Kyrie and AD so kinda defeats purpose.

The other trades im not interested in because Harper/Bailey/etc way lower draft tier than Flagg

Harper is as good of a prospect as Cade/Paolo.

Flagg might not be better than those guys but potential is a big part of the value, I definitely think he’s a tier above with his age and two way ability. If the Bucks wanted a Paolo or Cade tier prospect then they probably could actually get Paolo or Cade.

ReggiesKnicks · Post #12 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Tue May 13, 2025 2:15 pm

JayMKE wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Flagg is an intriguing prospect but wouldn’t do it unless Giannis demanded, don’t think Dallas after is really a better situation for Giannis with injured Kyrie and AD so kinda defeats purpose.

The other trades im not interested in because Harper/Bailey/etc way lower draft tier than Flagg

Harper is as good of a prospect as Cade/Paolo.

Flagg might not be better than those guys but potential is a big part of the value, I definitely think he’s a tier above with his age and two way ability. If the Bucks wanted a Paolo or Cade tier prospect then they probably could actually get Paolo or Cade.

Which is why I said prospect, not player :crazy:

JayMKE · Post #13 » by **JayMKE** » Tue May 13, 2025 2:22 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
JayMKE wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
Harper is as good of a prospect as Cade/Paolo.

Flagg might not be better than those guys but potential is a big part of the value, I definitely think he’s a tier above with his age and two way ability. If the Bucks wanted a Paolo or Cade tier prospect then they probably could actually get Paolo or Cade.

Which is why I said prospect, not player

Not sure what you’re not getting, Flagg as a prospect >>> Harper. Not interested in him as Giannis centerpiece.

Kalamazoo317 · Post #14 » by **Kalamazoo317** » Tue May 13, 2025 2:57 pm

JayMKE wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Flagg is an intriguing prospect but wouldn’t do it unless Giannis demanded, don’t think Dallas after is really a better situation for Giannis with injured Kyrie and AD so kinda defeats purpose.

The other trades im not interested in because Harper/Bailey/etc way lower draft tier than Flagg

Harper is as good of a prospect as Cade/Paolo.

Flagg might not be better than those guys but potential is a big part of the value, I definitely think he’s a tier above with his age and two way ability. If the Bucks wanted a Paolo or Cade tier prospect then they probably could actually get Paolo or Cade.

No you couldn't. Orlando and Detroit wouldn't move their franchise players for Giannis straight up. Getting Giannis only makes sense for either team if they're adding him to Paolo or Cade, not replacing them with him. (Not to mention the other assets and salary Orlando or Detroit would have to throw in).

mademan · Post #15 » by **mademan** » Tue May 13, 2025 3:16 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:
JayMKE wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
Harper is as good of a prospect as Cade/Paolo.

Flagg might not be better than those guys but potential is a big part of the value, I definitely think he’s a tier above with his age and two way ability. If the Bucks wanted a Paolo or Cade tier prospect then they probably could actually get Paolo or Cade.

No you couldn't. Orlando and Detroit wouldn't move their franchise players for Giannis straight up. Getting Giannis only makes sense for either team if they're adding him to Paolo or Cade, not replacing them with him. (Not to mention the other assets and salary Orlando or Detroit would have to throw in).

I think Magic would. Pistons wouldnt

ReggiesKnicks · Post #16 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Tue May 13, 2025 3:17 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:
JayMKE wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
Harper is as good of a prospect as Cade/Paolo.

Flagg might not be better than those guys but potential is a big part of the value, I definitely think he’s a tier above with his age and two way ability. If the Bucks wanted a Paolo or Cade tier prospect then they probably could actually get Paolo or Cade.

No you couldn't. Orlando and Detroit wouldn't move their franchise players for Giannis straight up. Getting Giannis only makes sense for either team if they're adding him to Paolo or Cade, not replacing them with him. (Not to mention the other assets and salary Orlando or Detroit would have to throw in).

I disagree. Giannis/Franz/Suggs is similar to Giannis/Middleton/Holiday in terms of archetype fits.

mlloyd10 · Post #17 » by **mlloyd10** » Tue May 13, 2025 3:24 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
Kalamazoo317 wrote:
JayMKE wrote:

Flagg might not be better than those guys but potential is a big part of the value, I definitely think he’s a tier above with his age and two way ability. If the Bucks wanted a Paolo or Cade tier prospect then they probably could actually get Paolo or Cade.

No you couldn't. Orlando and Detroit wouldn't move their franchise players for Giannis straight up. Getting Giannis only makes sense for either team if they're adding him to Paolo or Cade, not replacing them with him. (Not to mention the other assets and salary Orlando or Detroit would have to throw in).

I disagree. Giannis/Franz/Suggs is similar to Giannis/Middleton/Holiday in terms of archetype fits.

Holiday >> Suggs
Middleton was just a different player during that time frame - From 2019-2022 Middleton was a top 30 player

ReggiesKnicks · Post #18 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Tue May 13, 2025 3:26 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
Kalamazoo317 wrote:
No you couldn't. Orlando and Detroit wouldn't move their franchise players for Giannis straight up. Getting Giannis only makes sense for either team if they're adding him to Paolo or Cade, not replacing them with him. (Not to mention the other assets and salary Orlando or Detroit would have to throw in).

I disagree. Giannis/Franz/Suggs is similar to Giannis/Middleton/Holiday in terms of archetype fits.

Holiday >> Suggs
Middleton was just a different player during that time frame - From 2019-2022 Middleton was a top 30 player

Middleton and Holiday are both better than Franz and Suggs.

It's important to understand what the term archetype means. Archetype means skill-set profile.