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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#661 » by zzaj » Wed May 14, 2025 11:23 pm

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Raynaud 20-9-3 7-12/2-5
Nembhard 13-1-8 5-9/0-1
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I think there are going to be some Bigs in this draft that GMs are going to really kick themselves for not taking higher. Raynaud is one of them...
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#662 » by dckingsfan » Wed May 14, 2025 11:47 pm

zzaj wrote:I think there are going to be some Bigs in this draft that GMs are going to really kick themselves for not taking higher. Raynaud is one of them...

Agreed. I feel that this draft has some really good players in the first 20 picks and several sleepers. A good draft to have multiple picks.

I am also bought in on Flagg & Harper so there is that...
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#663 » by Dame Lizard » Thu May 15, 2025 2:40 am

Sinobas wrote:Fleming seems like a really mediocre player. He has nice percentages on a low volume of shooting, like Sheppard Reed and Cody Williams last year, both of which had abysmal rookie seasons.

I think this draft is really over-rated honestly. Flagg reminds me of a 6-9 Brent Barry. That's not an insult, that's still a good player, I just don't see a superstar. Harper and Baily played together and couldn't even muster a winning record in college.

The most intriging player to me, where we'd be picking is Egor Demin, just having a 6-9 player with those ball handling skills. It's possible he doesn't end up being better than Banton, but he's only 19 and has a lot of potential.
I strongly disagree with your Flagg comment. He's the most sure thing All Star draft player that I can recall since LeBron imo.

He doesn't have a Wemby ceiling of course, and time will tell whether he can be a true Top 5/10 superstar. But I'm more confident he'll be a multiple time all-star than I've been about anybody in a longggg time.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#665 » by Chanse503 » Thu May 15, 2025 5:46 pm

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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#666 » by Walton1one » Thu May 15, 2025 6:24 pm

A little nervous about how this draft is shaping up and POR @ #11 could be sitting there having to choose b\t players that don't really fit or are sub-optimal choices @ #11

As it stands right now, I see (6) players that appear they certainly will not be there @ #11: Flagg, Harper, Edgecombe, Bailey, Johnson & Knueppel

That leaves (4) picks before POR, where IMO there are (3) players they should be targeting: Jakucionis, Demin or Bryant and it is becoming increasingly possible that all (3) of those players are gone, and potentially even a guy like Essengue (whom some like at #11) could be gone as well, leaving POR with a choice of: Maluach, Queen, Fears or reaching for a guy like Clifford, Coward or ???

POR needs (2) of Fears, Maluach or Queen to go before their pick, then that leaves them with the possibility that (1) of Jakucionis\Demin\Bryant are available, (2) if you consider Essengue worth the pick here.

Thankfully, so far I have been seeing Fears solidly in the top 10 and at least (1) of Maluach\Queen as well.

Of course, there are a few players that could certainly rise into the top 10 b\t now and the draft: Cedric Coward is rocketing up the boards, Thomas Sorber's stock is climbing and then there is CMB, though shooting at combine (highlighting shooting concerns with him) may slide him a little, but he was top 10 in most mocks (will be curious to see where he is a few weeks from now), any one of those going (or another player, not sure who) before POR picks would be even better.

I wonder what the scenario is POR is sitting there with: Fears, Maluach & Queen on the board? Do they see if CHI wants to switch spots (or ATL) for one of the big men? Do they reach for a guy like Coward? Take Sorber? Take the gamble on Fears? Someone else?
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#667 » by JRoy » Thu May 15, 2025 7:07 pm

Just no KK.

He looks like a doughy Duke bust to me.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#668 » by Blaze the Nugz » Thu May 15, 2025 7:26 pm

JRoy wrote:Just no KK.

He looks like a doughy Duke bust to me.


His shooting ability looks very real. I expect him to stick around the league for a long time. Does not seem like a high upside guy, though.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#669 » by zzaj » Thu May 15, 2025 11:06 pm

Walton1one wrote:A little nervous about how this draft is shaping up and POR @ #11 could be sitting there having to choose b\t players that don't really fit or are sub-optimal choices @ #11

As it stands right now, I see (6) players that appear they certainly will not be there @ #11: Flagg, Harper, Edgecombe, Bailey, Johnson & Knueppel

That leaves (4) picks before POR, where IMO there are (3) players they should be targeting: Jakucionis, Demin or Bryant and it is becoming increasingly possible that all (3) of those players are gone, and potentially even a guy like Essengue (whom some like at #11) could be gone as well, leaving POR with a choice of: Maluach, Queen, Fears or reaching for a guy like Clifford, Coward or ???

POR needs (2) of Fears, Maluach or Queen to go before their pick, then that leaves them with the possibility that (1) of Jakucionis\Demin\Bryant are available, (2) if you consider Essengue worth the pick here.

Thankfully, so far I have been seeing Fears solidly in the top 10 and at least (1) of Maluach\Queen as well.

Of course, there are a few players that could certainly rise into the top 10 b\t now and the draft: Cedric Coward is rocketing up the boards, Thomas Sorber's stock is climbing and then there is CMB, though shooting at combine (highlighting shooting concerns with him) may slide him a little, but he was top 10 in most mocks (will be curious to see where he is a few weeks from now), any one of those going (or another player, not sure who) before POR picks would be even better.

I wonder what the scenario is POR is sitting there with: Fears, Maluach & Queen on the board? Do they see if CHI wants to switch spots (or ATL) for one of the big men? Do they reach for a guy like Coward? Take Sorber? Take the gamble on Fears? Someone else?


Fears is interesting...I think his combine measurements are really going to hurt him--there's just not a lot of guards coming into the league at his size anymore. To this point I've watched quite a few actual games of Fears', and I consider myself a believer. IMO he has the upside to be a Top 4 player in this draft. I believe in his shot mechanics and his FT% and think that he'll be above league average in a couple of years. I also think that his Ast numbers were deflated because of his teammates. IMHO, dude is the best ballhandler in this draft, and once he has some experience I think he'll be an incredibly high level self-creator and creator for others. Kind of a blend of D'Aaron Fox and Jeff Teague. Buuuuut, 6'2.5" with a 6'5" wingspan is rough in today's NBA, and especially with guys like Scoot and Simons on the roster? I can't see him becoming a Blazer on Cronin's watch.

Maluach I'm just not a fan of. I think his archetype is pretty common in any draft, and although I do think he has upside based on how little basketball he's played and how quickly he's gotten great at it...NBA benches and overseas teams are littered with players just like him.

Queen is also interesting to me, his level of skill and touch at his size is really rare. If given the correct opportunity, I could see him being a guy that a lot of GMs wonder how they let him slip by. If he's NOT given that opprotunity, he'll look marginal on an NBA court. At his best he'll look like some kind of Z-Bo, Sengun, and Webber hybrid.

Sorber doesn't really do much for me either...he just looks like a WCJr type to me. Not a bad player, to be certain...but available in every draft.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#670 » by Norm2953 » Thu May 15, 2025 11:29 pm

Is there a player that Portland should target?

The draft after the top 5 seems essentially flat which is the consensus after visiting other team boards.

Would trading out of the draft for a return of a player who would fit in better with the rest of the roster
make any sense?
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#671 » by Dame Lizard » Fri May 16, 2025 12:16 am

Norm2953 wrote:Is there a player that Portland should target?

The draft after the top 5 seems essentially flat which is the consensus after visiting other team boards.

Would trading out of the draft for a return of a player who would fit in better with the rest of the roster
make any sense?
The draft is always a bit of a gamble, but there are diamonds in every draft.

I'm open to trading it for a young player with upside, but if nobody is compelling then I'd much rather keep it and gamble.

It'd be a horrible decision to trade it for a Larry Nance Jr style of solid veteran like we did in 2022. We aren't ready to compete so we should be prioritising gambling on a development player locked up on a 4 year deal (with bird rights) to try and unearth a star.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#672 » by Walton1one » Fri May 16, 2025 1:37 am

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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#673 » by Walton1one » Fri May 16, 2025 1:40 am

Norm2953 wrote:Is there a player that Portland should target?

The draft after the top 5 seems essentially flat which is the consensus after visiting other team boards.

Would trading out of the draft for a return of a player who would fit in better with the rest of the roster
make any sense?


I have had a hard time finding a player that could be available that would be worth the #11 pick

I think Bryant, Demin & Jakucionis are POR top options, probably Essengue as well
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#674 » by DaVoiceMaster » Fri May 16, 2025 2:41 am

What do people think of Collin Murray-Boyles? Seems the mocks have him all over the place in the 1st round. Pick 11 might be too high, but it's hard to tell by how much.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#675 » by Walton1one » Fri May 16, 2025 2:50 am

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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#676 » by Walton1one » Fri May 16, 2025 3:01 am

DaVoiceMaster wrote:What do people think of Collin Murray-Boyles? Seems the mocks have him all over the place in the 1st round. Pick 11 might be too high, but it's hard to tell by how much.


Defense, rebounding, good team player, but he is undersized, good WS though, but the shooting…..oof

Just don’t see the fit with POR, why not just resign Walker to a minimum deal? He is also undersized, but has shown he can shoot
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#677 » by Dame Lizard » Fri May 16, 2025 3:09 am

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DaVoiceMaster wrote:What do people think of Collin Murray-Boyles? Seems the mocks have him all over the place in the 1st round. Pick 11 might be too high, but it's hard to tell by how much.


Defense, rebounding, good team player, but he is undersized, good WS though, but the shooting…..oof

Just don’t see the fit with POR, why not just resign Walker to a minimum deal? He is also undersized, but has shown he can shoot
Agree. I'd rather we don't sign CMB. The upside isn't really there. If we were a contender, then yes he could provide some good defense off the bench.

But we aren't there. We're still searching for star power.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#678 » by jhern87 » Fri May 16, 2025 4:45 am

I keep seeing Walter Clayton Jr. falling to the end of the 1st in mocks, I’d love if we somehow were able to trade into the back end of the round to snag him. He’s played a lot of ball and I think will come in and be effective immediately.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#679 » by DaVoiceMaster » Fri May 16, 2025 4:50 am

Walton1one wrote:
DaVoiceMaster wrote:What do people think of Collin Murray-Boyles? Seems the mocks have him all over the place in the 1st round. Pick 11 might be too high, but it's hard to tell by how much.


Defense, rebounding, good team player, but he is undersized, good WS though, but the shooting…..oof

Just don’t see the fit with POR, why not just resign Walker to a minimum deal? He is also undersized, but has shown he can shoot


Walker is not a good defender. This guy is supposed to be a good defender, which is really something I am looking for moving forward. He's only 6'8" but has a decent wing span (i think) and has good hands (steals). He's decent close to the basket and mid range and can back his defender down, something the Blazers don't really have at this point.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#680 » by Village Idiot » Fri May 16, 2025 5:53 am

The two guys I am targeting at Demin and Sorber. I would love to come away with both if possible. I've stated my strong belief in Demin but Sorber measured really well and has a high bbiq. I can see him, and not Clingan as our center of the future. Sorber, with his ability to switch on D is a better all-around big with Clingan more situational as a back-up.
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