[Perkins] - "Don't Sleep On Toronto For Giannis"

[Boogie!]

They're a horrible fit at SF/PF but theyd be great at C/PF. You just need to get an above average bacup C for particular matchups but we could have our very own "death lineup"

I’m not sure why people are so insistent on hanging onto Barnes. If the right deal comes along you trade him. You don’t need Giannis and pooor man’s Giannis on the same team. Also If Barnes is that good and has that much value you also don’t need to include much with him to get Giannis instead of gutting half the team.

When we first traded for Barrett and quickley, that lineup with Barnes, siakam quickley Barrett looked pretty damn good. Now imagine you replaced Barnes with Giannis and have Ingram instead of siakam. That’s a crazy lineup with versatility and scoring. Pretty unstoppable.

I honestly wish we gave the IQ/RJ/Barnes/Siakam/Poeltl lineup more runway. We literally wasted 2 seasons only to get the 9th pick in this draft lol.

Again we can still do it. Just trade Barnes and dick and the 9th for Giannis.

Quickley/barrett/ingram/giannis/poeltl.

[SaveTheHens]

Didn't Giannis live with Masai's family in his youth or something? I'd say we win the relationship game of attracting him as a player though there are obvious advantages to going elsewhere; competitiveness, environment, money but hey at least we're leading in one category. Maybe we'll make the shortlist of Giannis' preferred destinations and muster out a package Milwaukee prefers over the others on the shortlist. It'd gut our team a bit but Giannis is worth it, and I still trust Masai so assuming 3-4 years of Giannis playing here at a high level, I think we can create a contendor in that timeframe.

[Tor_Raps]

I’m not sure why people are so insistent on hanging onto Barnes. If the right deal comes along you trade him. You don’t need Giannis and pooor man’s Giannis on the same team. Also If Barnes is that good and has that much value you also don’t need to include much with him to get Giannis instead of gutting half the team.

When we first traded for Barrett and quickley, that lineup with Barnes, siakam quickley Barrett looked pretty damn good. Now imagine you replaced Barnes with Giannis and have Ingram instead of siakam. That’s a crazy lineup with versatility and scoring. Pretty unstoppable.

I honestly wish we gave the IQ/RJ/Barnes/Siakam/Poeltl lineup more runway. We literally wasted 2 seasons only to get the 9th pick in this draft lol.

Again we can still do it. Just trade Barnes and dick and the 9th for Giannis.

Quickley/barrett/ingram/giannis/poeltl.

Ya that would be the on steroids version with some decent bench depth too, sign me up.

Need Shams to come out with a Giannis report before we get too carried away lol

[Senbonzakura]

Toronto is not much of a better situation for Giannis

I think depends how much we give.

If it's Barnes, the 9th pick and a couple future 1sts, it's not too bad because at least Giannis will have some good young players around him with upside.

That's what it'd have to be. Idk why so many people are doing trade scenarios where Barnes is still on the team. None of those are viable.

IQ
Barrett
Ingram
Giannis
Poeltl

Is the makings of a good lineup. Would probably want more of a 3+D wing than either Barrett or Ingram though.

[S.W.A.N]

Bucks are interesting. If they were to trade him to us it would be a similar situation to us trading OG to the knicks in that they would priortize talent over a bundle of picks. Being a small market team and not controlling their own picks they have zero incentive to do a proper rebuild.

With that in mind, the only trades with us would be structured around Scottie. Scottie makes roughly 15 million less. So they you have to start adding lots of pieces. Or another big chunk of salary. That means Quickley or RJ. If I'm the Bucks I'm demanding Quickley, and if I'm the raps I'm trying to make it RJ.

Both trades work if we trade for Giannis and Pat C.

So it is actually a pretty easy deal to structure. Barnes plus one of Quickley/RJ 9th pick and future draft picks. (maybe 2-3 future picks and swaps?)

Not as good a deal as the spurs,rockets, thunder could give, but I'm not sure any of those teams are going to offer the full kitchen sink to get it done...
Brooklyn can beat our offer as well.

So we in the game, but don't start measuring Giannis jerseys. Some weird **** will have to happen for us to be a real option. First thing is Bucks have to agree to trading him to someone in the east.... Then we actually have a shot.

[Senbonzakura]

Bucks are interesting. If they were to trade him to us it would be a similar situation to us trading OG to the knicks in that they would priortize talent over a bundle of picks. Being a small market team and not controlling their own picks they have zero incentive to do a proper rebuild.

With that in mind, the only trades with us would be structured around Scottie. Scottie makes roughly 15 million less. So they you have to start adding lots of pieces. Or another big chunk of salary. That means Quickley or RJ. If I'm the Bucks I'm demanding Quickley, and if I'm the raps I'm trying to make it RJ.

Both trades work if we trade for Giannis and Pat C.

So it is actually a pretty easy deal to structure. Barnes plus one of Quickley/RJ 9th pick and future draft picks. (maybe 2-3 future picks and swaps?)

Not as good a deal as the spurs,rockets, thunder could give, but I'm not sure any of those teams are going to offer the full kitchen sink to get it done...
Brooklyn can beat our offer as well.

So we in the game, but don't start measuring Giannis jerseys. Some weird **** will have to happen for us to be a real option. First thing is Bucks have to agree to trading him to someone in the east.... Then we actually have a shot.

That's a better deal than any other team can give imo.

You get a relatively young 20ppg+ guy in Barrett. You get a former ROTY who you can build around in Barnes (I don't think he's actually this player but he's perceived that way by some), and a top 10 people in a strong draft?

I'd do it too for us

[Potential]

If they ask for one of our young untouchable future stars Shead or JaKobe as the final piece I would say no

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Toronto is not much of a better situation for Giannis

I think depends how much we give.

If it's Barnes, the 9th pick and a couple future 1sts, it's not too bad because at least Giannis will have some good young players around him with upside.

That's what it'd have to be. Idk why so many people are doing trade scenarios where Barnes is still on the team. None of those are viable.

IQ
Barrett
Ingram
Giannis
Poeltl

Is the makings of a good lineup. Would probably want more of a 3+D wing than either Barrett or Ingram though.

Brandon Ingram is an elite #2.....fullstop

[djsunyc]

A Giannis-Ingram pairing makes more sense than Giannis-Scottie both in age and in complementary skills. You hope you can sell Scottie to the Bucks that he will be a multi All-Star. I don't think we have the best package, but Scottie, RJ, and some young assets is a pretty competitive offer IMO.

it would be very difficult to upgrade the roster just from a contract pov

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[Ell Curry]

Cleveland can offer Garland and Allen...2 AllStar level guys in their primes and each have term on their contracts...3 and 4 years respectively. They just don't have the picks that OKC can throw at The Bucks.

But if I am Giannis, staying in the East gets you a better chance of making the Finals and maybe the West beats up on one another along the way.

Will be interesting

Cleveland is a 2nd apron team and can only do 1 for 1 trades with matching salary.

Am I wrong to think they can sneak under the apron by trading Okoro to some team with MLE space? Maybe dump Dean Wade's final year the same way if you also need to the same way.

[tdotrep2]

Quickley - ??Shead
Ochai - Jakobe
Ingram - ??battle
Giannis - ??
Jakob - ??

Additional moves would need to be made, we dont have the depth

[WaltFrazier]

Perkins just said on First Take that he knows for a fact Giannis wants to stay in the East and don't sleep on Toronto. I hate Perkins except when he says something nice about my team lol.
https://youtu.be/TOv_X1YBh98?si=K-VjctGxO1b4x1CL

Rich Paul showing Toronto some love too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/s/6M8QAo0GOU

ScoopB is rarely ever right UNTIL NOW lol

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First comments I saw on the Reddit page:

"TO being used as a bargaining chip. "

And the reply:

"Ohtani on the plane again."

[Tor_Raps]

Perkins just said on First Take that he knows for a fact Giannis wants to stay in the East and don't sleep on Toronto. I hate Perkins except when he says something nice about my team lol.
https://youtu.be/TOv_X1YBh98?si=K-VjctGxO1b4x1CL

Rich Paul showing Toronto some love too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/s/6M8QAo0GOU

ScoopB is rarely ever right UNTIL NOW lol

Read on Twitter

First comments I saw on the Reddit page:

"TO being used as a bargaining chip. "

And the reply:

"Ohtani on the plane again."

This isn't a free agent negotiation, they don't need to use specific teams to have any type of bidding war for someone of Giannis' level lol

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Quickley - ??Shead
Ochai - Jakobe
Ingram - ??battle
Giannis - ??
Jakob - ??

Additional moves would need to be made, we dont have the depth

You are missing Dick, Mogbo, and an easy re-sign of needed with Boucher.

Quickley -Shead
Ochai - Jakobe
Ingram - Dick/battle
Giannis - Mogbo
Jakob - Boucher

Not the greatest bench in the world, but gives those rookies who fought hard this year to shone.

Plus easy to sign some vets to play with Giannis and Ingram.

[carlosey]

Lol lets be real here....Raptors do not have the assets to get him....But since the league seems to be rigged....If NBA rigs this for us and Giannis magically requests a trade to only Toronto....Then we could get him...But if that does not happen hes going to one of the Spurs/Rockets/OKC or a team he demands to go too....

Been thinking about this. Silver seems to want to hit big numbers for Amazon next year. All big population teams need to pull viewership so its possible in a conspiracy theory. Toronto can do their share with a big name.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Perkins just said on First Take that he knows for a fact Giannis wants to stay in the East and don't sleep on Toronto. I hate Perkins except when he says something nice about my team lol.
https://youtu.be/TOv_X1YBh98?si=K-VjctGxO1b4x1CL

Rich Paul showing Toronto some love too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/s/6M8QAo0GOU

ScoopB is rarely ever right UNTIL NOW lol

Read on Twitter

First comments I saw on the Reddit page:

"TO being used as a bargaining chip. "

And the reply:

"Ohtani on the plane again."

Yeah, except we got Kawhi. ...that is all

[WaltFrazier]

Lol lets be real here....Raptors do not have the assets to get him....But since the league seems to be rigged....If NBA rigs this for us and Giannis magically requests a trade to only Toronto....Then we could get him...But if that does not happen hes going to one of the Spurs/Rockets/OKC or a team he demands to go too....

Been thinking about this. Silver seems to want to hit big numbers for Amazon next year. All big population teams need to pull viewership so its possible in a conspiracy theory. Toronto can do their share with a big name.

Canadian ratings mean nothing to NBC or ESPN. But do they matter to Amazon?

[LoveMyRaps]

I genuinely believe Toronto would be one of the team Giannis requests a trade to.

[LoveMyRaps]

Start rubbing those palms together

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