Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - 2025 Off-season

[BigO]

If Golden State really is interested in Brook then maybe there's something workable here.

S&T Brook for Moses Moody
Bobby re-signed 4-yrs, $60 million
KPJ re-signed 1-yr BAE ($5-6 million)
Do that Kuzma/Pat for Jrue and #28 trade

KPJ/Rollins
Jrue/Green
Moody
Giannis/Smith
Bobby/Sims

Find a backup SF/PF on the vet minimum and that's your rough roster outline I guess. Picks 28 and 47 in this draft. Idk, at least gives you a scrappy, more defensively versatile roster with the potential to increase the talent level on the margins. Sets you up well for next offseason with picks and movable contracts to trade depending on how much or how little Dame looks like the guy before the injury.

Not sure what Moody gives you, but otherwise not bad.

I'd be interested, as I've mentioned before, in Kevon Looney. The Bucks still need a presence in the middle. H'es a consummate pro, can rebound, play defense, clog the middle and prettty switchable.

Looney is going to get more than the minimum though, and he's not good enough of an upgrade over Sims to justify neglecting our massive holes on the wing and/or gears positions. We can't waste our exceptions on him.

Looney has played the fewest minutes than he has in the last 7 years. He's not going to get much more than the minimum.

We can complain about Lopez (and I have), but we need some rim protection and interior defense. I'm not sold on Sims who will be starting his 6th year and hasn''t shown great hands or great skill.

[chonestown]

Again: Kuminga is a supremely dumb player. Would take him as a Kuzma replacement. If both he and Kuz were here, well, your pal Chones might take to pouring himself highballs of bleach.

Dumbinga.imo

Before tossing back the bleach cocktails, I should hasten to add I would call this personnel combination a Ku-Ku Platter feel free to use no big deal

[German Athens]

I’ve brought this up in prior off-seasons, but if your goal is to wait a year to pool assets, it would be a good idea to look at what the max assets are (3 1sts, 1 swap), and what said assets have returned historically.

That full package would have to capture a really good player at the right part of their age curve, and that player would have to actually become available. I think that’s all pretty damn unlikely to come together in the way we would need it to, and as soon as you start to entertain the idea of breaking that package into smaller parts, then it’s not advantageous to wait a year.

If there’s a player worth using that 1st and swap on now, use it.

[ShootingtheJ]

Not sure what Moody gives you, but otherwise not bad.

I'd be interested, as I've mentioned before, in Kevon Looney. The Bucks still need a presence in the middle. H'es a consummate pro, can rebound, play defense, clog the middle and prettty switchable.

Looney is going to get more than the minimum though, and he's not good enough of an upgrade over Sims to justify neglecting our massive holes on the wing and/or gears positions. We can't waste our exceptions on him.

Looney has played the fewest minutes than he has in the last 7 years. He's not going to get much more than the minimum.

We can complain about Lopez (and I have), but we need some rim protection and interior defense. I'm not sold on Sims who will be starting his 6th year and hasn''t shown great hands or great skill.

The defense is awesome with Sims in, that's his skill. The defense was really good with Bobby in during the playoffs. Rim protection only works versus bad teams, it's an outdated concept.

It's doesn't matter if Looney is only a little over the minimum, it would be enough to prevent us from landing the help we're desperate for on the wing. I'm not against Looney, but he's not a pressing need.

[BUCKnation]

The potential Brook S&T was definitely not on my radar as a way to get a legit asset, but they seem kind of desperate.

I'd take Moody and hope he could the next Nesmith.

No interest in Kuminga, even with his last couple of games in that playoff series when they were looking for anything. That recent article that just came out about how Kerr and Steph were just over his selfishness was concerning.

[Frank Nova]

Moody is certainly an intriguing buy low candidate with decent upside and I like the Nesmith comparison in terms of value. We should be exploring options like this, not speculating what crap sandwich the media wants us to eat in a Giannis trade.

[ShootingtheJ]

The rules of a sign and trade make a Moody for Brook deal basically impossible. I would be interested in acquiring Moody in a different deal though.

[BigO]

The potential Brook S&T was definitely not on my radar as a way to get a legit asset, but they seem kind of desperate.

I'd take Moody and hope he could the next Nesmith.

No interest in Kuminga, even with his last couple of games in that playoff series when they were looking for anything. That recent article that just came out about how Kerr and Steph were just over his selfishness was concerning.

Brook will be in high demand. It's not just the Warriors and Lakers who will be after him. He shot 51% and 37% on threes and still protects the rim.

He obviously has big defensive liabilities, but he could last several more years, since he never relied on athleticism. I don't now what's doable if there's a bidding war for him, so I'll rely on you geeks to figure it out.

[ShootingtheJ]

The potential Brook S&T was definitely not on my radar as a way to get a legit asset, but they seem kind of desperate.

I'd take Moody and hope he could the next Nesmith.

No interest in Kuminga, even with his last couple of games in that playoff series when they were looking for anything. That recent article that just came out about how Kerr and Steph were just over his selfishness was concerning.

Brook will be in high demand. It's not just the Warriors and Lakers who will be after him. He shot 51% and 37% on threes and still protects the rim.

He obviously has big defensive liabilities, but he could last several more years, since he never relied on athleticism. I don't now what's doable if there's a bidding war for him, so I'll rely on you geeks to figure it out.

With Luka, the Lakers want a rim runner. Brook can't run. He's the last center they'd want.

The Lakers are a team that might try to steal Sims.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

ive seen some really hard to swallow dame trades thrown around by fans of other teams. id do most of them i think? probably?

at the least the fact its even being discussed gives me hope there could be something that was half way palatable. if it was for actual viable dudes then giving up the picks actually makes sense

[Rstuedes24]

I've been advocating to get Moody for a few seasons now. Feel like he could take a good step forward outside of GS.

[RiotPunch]

The rules of a sign and trade make a Moody for Brook deal basically impossible. I would be interested in acquiring Moody in a different deal though.

Isn't it more doable since he'll be making less money than his previous deal? Refresh my memory, I'm off my BYC/CBA game, apparently.

[tedbrogen]

The rules of a sign and trade make a Moody for Brook deal basically impossible. I would be interested in acquiring Moody in a different deal though.

Isn't it more doable since he'll be making less money than his previous deal? Refresh my memory, I'm off my BYC/CBA game, apparently.

Isn’t it that the team trading for a sign and trade guy is hard capped at the first apron? If so, Warriors can’t duck below that because Steph, Jimmy, and Angry Flagrant Foul Guy make too much.

[RiotPunch]

The rules of a sign and trade make a Moody for Brook deal basically impossible. I would be interested in acquiring Moody in a different deal though.

Isn't it more doable since he'll be making less money than his previous deal? Refresh my memory, I'm off my BYC/CBA game, apparently.

Isn’t it that the team trading for a sign and trade guy is hard capped at the first apron? If so, Warriors can’t duck below that because Steph, Jimmy, and Angry Flagrant Foul Guy make too much.

Ah, yeah, that's it. They have to be under the apron after the deal, and are hard capped for the entire season.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

I'm not really too inclined to watch Jrue have shoot 45%TS for us in the playoffs as Giannis gets tripled team

[tedbrogen]

I'm not really too inclined to watch Jrue have shoot 45%TS for us in the playoffs as Giannis gets tripled team

His TS% headed into tonight’s game this postseason was 63. For last years run it was 61. He’s clearly fine as a fourth or fifth offensive option off the ball. Asking him to be second option and yeah he’ll fail.

[ShootingtheJ]

Isn't it more doable since he'll be making less money than his previous deal? Refresh my memory, I'm off my BYC/CBA game, apparently.

Isn’t it that the team trading for a sign and trade guy is hard capped at the first apron? If so, Warriors can’t duck below that because Steph, Jimmy, and Angry Flagrant Foul Guy make too much.

Ah, yeah, that's it. They have to be under the apron after the deal, and are hard capped for the entire season.

Actually, I was referring to the part of the sign and trade restriction where we can only take back half the salary we send out.

[tedbrogen]

Isn’t it that the team trading for a sign and trade guy is hard capped at the first apron? If so, Warriors can’t duck below that because Steph, Jimmy, and Angry Flagrant Foul Guy make too much.

Ah, yeah, that's it. They have to be under the apron after the deal, and are hard capped for the entire season.

Actually, I was referring to the part of the sign and trade restriction where we can only take back half the salary we send out.

So not only would the Warriors have to duck the hard cap (which requires them to let Kuminga, GPII, and Looney walk) but they would have to then pay Brook $23M.

[slos]

Isn’t it that the team trading for a sign and trade guy is hard capped at the first apron? If so, Warriors can’t duck below that because Steph, Jimmy, and Angry Flagrant Foul Guy make too much.

Ah, yeah, that's it. They have to be under the apron after the deal, and are hard capped for the entire season.

Actually, I was referring to the part of the sign and trade restriction where we can only take back half the salary we send out.

Actually it’s either half of Brook’s new contract or his previous salary - whichever is greater - which means Brook will count for Milwaukee 23 mil. It’s still a tough match with Moody.

It’s easier with Kuminga if anyone is interested. Bucks could give him an 18 mil contract. In that case Kuminga would count for 9mil for Golden State which allows them to offer a 10ish contract to Brook.

Portis is an easier match for Moody (Kuminga too) and there is always the Kerr connection there who likes him.

The problem for both Portis and Brook is that Warriors can sign them straight with their non tax - MLE. They can give a 14mil to Portis or Brook and after they sign #41 they will be 10 mil under the 1st apron with 11 contracts. Can’t see any motivation to gift Bucks a younger piece.

[ShootingtheJ]

Ah, yeah, that's it. They have to be under the apron after the deal, and are hard capped for the entire season.

Actually, I was referring to the part of the sign and trade restriction where we can only take back half the salary we send out.

Actually it’s either half of Brook’s new contract or his previous salary - whichever is greater - which means Brook will count for Milwaukee 23 mil. It’s still a tough match with Moody.

It’s easier with Kuminga if anyone is interested. Bucks could give him an 18 mil contract. In that case Kuminga would count for 9mil for Golden State which allows them to offer a 10ish contract to Brook.

Portis is an easier match for Moody (Kuminga too) and there is always the Kerr connection there who likes him.

The problem for both Portis and Brook is that Warriors can sign them straight with their non tax - MLE. They can give a 14mil to Portis or Brook and after they sign #41 they will be 10 mil under the 1st apron with 11 contracts. Can’t see any motivation to gift Bucks a younger piece.

I was unaware of this previous salary provision. This works perfectly. Now it just about whether GSW wants to move on from Moody's salary. He had a very limited role in the playoffs.