Giannis Thread - On Asking for a Trade - "I am not this kind of guy, they would have to kick me out”.

[RRyder823]

Until any of these rumors cite sources beyond speculation, or belief it's just click bait for me. The media for years has tried to force Giannis out of Milwaukee, no surprise. I understand now more than ever the timing and direction suggests anything is possible. Until we hear he really does want out, I don't foresee any scenario we trade him.

This is where I’m at. I just don’t believe any of these click bait stories. They come around every time Giannis has a decision to make. I’m now seeing articles about Giannis being open to playing for teams in states with no state income tax. This was a story being circulated last time he was unclear about signing an extension. I just think that some guys are trying to generate headlines and clicks and have no real insight.

No state income tax and who are the teams being mentioned in trade scenarios?

Houston, San Antonio, Dallas possibly.

Funny how 3 rumors teams fit that media narrative, but not 1 legitimate source providing firsthand or reliable content. When they use words like speculation or believe, I don't take it serious either.

I mean the no state income tax thing isn't really far fetched. We've had many stories over the years about him being let's say frugal and even when he signed his first extension had his accountant tell him whether he'd make more with a supermax from Milwaukee or a max from a team with no state income tax.

I've said it on the general board and ill say it here but if Giannis asks out and gives a list of teams they'll either be teams with no state income tax or low cost of living areas. That man has no desire to sign up to pay LA or NY taxes(/cost of living)

That said i don't think he's asking out so points moot

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[RRyder823]

These national media big mouths crack me up. Windy saying Golden State may even be willing to add Podz in a package for Giannis. Ya think?? Wow, lucky us! Holy **** I'm not sure some of these idiots truly know how good Giannis is. It's like they pay NO attention to the Milwaukee Bucks. It's like I'm in the twilight zone or something.

BTW, far as I know Giannis hasn't said ANYTHING to the team about possibly wanting to leave.

This seems obvious but everyone taking the bait might be more obvious

Just once I'd like to see Giannis come out and drop the mic by saying "I have never once even entertained the idea of playing anywhere else...these people have no clue what they're talking about". I'd love to see the reactions from all these morons.

We saw that from Dame like 7 years ago and it didn't stop them from talking about it untill it finally happened

Interestingly enough Portland still managed to get a haul even though the media kept shouting the same "They gotta get out ahead of this or they'll get scraps" nonsense

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[Ron Swanson]

Whatever you guys do just don't go over to the T&T board and expect any good faith discussion. We're at "Shaeden Sharpe, Ayton, and our 2028-2030 picks back as the centerpiece of a Giannis trade" territory. I knew that board was already a cesspool of homer-ism and completely unserious trade proposals, but these past couple months (Luka trade) have rotted so many brains over there.

[Frank Nova]

Giannis ain’t turning his back on the franchise. Things getting tough and him running for the hills is pretty much the anti thing Giannis will do. He was here for the dark days and brought us to the light, there’s zero chance he’s ready to abandon ship regardless of how grim things may seem. All these dickheads in the media and fans of other teams proposing all these moron ideas or downplaying the greatness and worth of Giannis need beat within an inch of their lives. Trading Giannis will never be what’s best for this franchise.

[Wonka]

I think there’s a ton of projection in this thread from both sides of the “is he staying” discussion. The truth is, we don’t know Giannis, and we definitely don’t know that he is going to stay because he’s been loyal up until this point.

[mke_design]

I think there’s a ton of projection in this thread from both sides of the “is he staying” discussion. The truth is, we don’t know Giannis, and we definitely don’t know that he is going to stay because he’s been loyal up until this point.

I also trust Voodoo more than Brian Windhorst

[machu46]

I think there’s a ton of projection in this thread from both sides of the “is he staying” discussion. The truth is, we don’t know Giannis, and we definitely don’t know that he is going to stay because he’s been loyal up until this point.

I also trust Voodoo more than Brian Windhorst

I generally do too but the issue is just because he hasn't told the Bucks he wants out yet doesn't mean he's decided for sure to stay. Could even be leaning towards leaving but hasn't told them yet and the front office is overly optimistic.

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[MickeyDavis]

I remember the good old days before we got Giannis. We didn't have to deal with the drama about if Joel Przybilla was going to ask out.

[ShootingtheJ]

The will he want out/will he be traded angle is actually a great strategy for the off season. Giannis plays it well.

It only works if we’re parting with the 2031 or 2032. I don’t want to do that.

If we leverage that pick in to enough value, it would be foolish not to deal it. It's all about what the deal is. Are we dealing it for some old dude? Hell no then. A young up and coming star? That would be new territory for Horst, but hell yeah. Splitting it up for a bevy of picks? Maybe.

Saying keep it no matter what because someone thinks the sky is falling? Seems like a poor business move.

[paulpressey25]

I remember the good old days before we got Giannis. We didn't have to deal with the drama about if Joel Przybilla was going to ask out.

But Jake Voskhul did ask to be traded!

[brettski]

I remember the good old days before we got Giannis. We didn't have to deal with the drama about if Joel Przybilla was going to ask out.

Lest we forget the Ramon Sessions thread!

[raferfenix]

I remember the good old days before we got Giannis. We didn't have to deal with the drama about if Joel Przybilla was going to ask out.

But Jake Voskhul did ask to be traded!

The representative for Milwaukee Bucks center Thon Maker has told management that he would prefer the franchise to trade Maker to a team that would provide a larger role for the former lottery pick, league sources told ESPN on Saturday.

As Maker's playing time has diminished under new coach Mike Budenholzer in the Bucks' surge to the NBA's best record, agent Mike George and Milwaukee general manager Jon Horst have discussed trade scenarios in recent weeks that would potentially make sense for both the player and team, league sources said.

Horst was part of a front office that selected Maker with the 10th overall pick in the 2016 NBA draft, and there remains strong organizational belief in Maker's future, sources said.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25858384/thon-maker-wants-trade-milwaukee-bucks-eye-more-playing

[th87]

I’d take the risk. If we have to trade Giannis later on and get less value, so be it. I’m riding out the Giannis prime years as long as possible and try to improve the team enough around the edges. I still think it’s our best move.

Maybe we get lucky with other teams having injuries in the playoffs or them having to ship out good players because of the second apron. Maybe Horst hits on a few underrated pickups. Maybe some internal player improvement works out better than expected. If we hire a good coach next season, our chances of contention get even better. Point being, with a generational superstar, it doesn’t take much to get back to title contention.

True, but we had that generational superstar on the roster this year. He was healthy for the playoffs. And we got sent home in a first round exit.

To be clear, I'm not blaming Giannis for that. But apparently, we're planning to roll on with Horst and Doc, the same dudes who led us to the point we currently are in, but now with Dame injured. If we had a new FO or HC coming through, I'd be more optimistic. But we don't. What makes you think that they'll turn it around? Horst will need nail this offseason and Doc will have to be, well, something he hasn't been (a good coach). Do you believe that can happen?

Yes I do. I think Doc may be fired next season after a slow start. Maybe even this summer if Giannis is on board with it (probably not though).

Yes, we had Giannis this season and we lost in the first round. The team wasn’t good enough, I agree. But I think it can be improved enough in the next two seasons so that we get back into contention again. A lot of fluctuation will happen in the coming two off seasons as the second apron starts affecting other teams. Teams like Boston and Cleveland with major injuries and potential playoff disappointment will look to offload some of their good role players to avoid the second apron tax. Might happen to OKC too. We will be in a good position next offseason to make some deals.

Exactly. Why is no one seeing this? Our position is not that much worse than other East contenders.

Doc will likely be fired mid-season. Prunty does a competent job. AJ Green develops. Dame returns to become a microwave scorer in the playoffs, and his expiring (and new picks) are traded the following year for Jaylen Brown (who will be unhappy) or some other disgruntled player (there's at least one a year).

There are no takebacks if Giannis is traded. It would be malpractice to not pull every lever possible to make it work with him.

[RiotPunch]

Yeah........ not trading Giannis for one of these dudes and picks Horst will **** up.

Watch on YouTube

[JayMKE]

There isn’t anything good being offered for Giannis, the “untouchable” deals are even crappy too. Like Amen + Sengun are crap and so are Chet + Jalen, the only pick I value is #1 and think the Rutgers prospects will bust.

Wish Giannis and the team could shut down the misinformation

[Jackhammer3375]

https://youtu.be/e1hd7lahPRA?si=_esi5TfML2UlHE1L

Sam Amick: You know what I mean? Like, they want every scenario to gut the other team. And Jon Horst is going to go for blood here, I’m telling you. He just got a new extension. He has the organization’s backing. Jon is not going to just try to be on good terms with Giannis—he’s trying to do right by the Bucks. And that means that if every scenario in play leaves the other team so gutted that Giannis might not actually be in that much better of a situation, then maybe that’s where he looks at the room and says, “All right, let me stay put.”

[JayMKE]

https://youtu.be/e1hd7lahPRA?si=_esi5TfML2UlHE1L

Sam Amick: You know what I mean? Like, they want every scenario to gut the other team. And Jon Horst is going to go for blood here, I’m telling you. He just got a new extension. He has the organization’s backing. Jon is not going to just try to be on good terms with Giannis—he’s trying to do right by the Bucks. And that means that if every scenario in play leaves the other team so gutted that Giannis might not actually be in that much better of a situation, then maybe that’s where he looks at the room and says, “All right, let me stay put.”

Horst shouldn’t even hang up the phone if a team comes calling with “untouchables”, just laugh and walk off and let them sit there listening. It’s not much different letting Giannis walk than some of these poo poo platter deals

[emunney]

I remember the good old days before we got Giannis. We didn't have to deal with the drama about if Joel Przybilla was going to ask out.

If Jake Voskuhl wants out, Jake Voskuhl gets out.

[ReasonablySober]

Bailey repeating that he's 6'10" was very funny.

[raferfenix]

Sam Amick: You know what I mean? Like, they want every scenario to gut the other team. And Jon Horst is going to go for blood here, I’m telling you. He just got a new extension. He has the organization’s backing. Jon is not going to just try to be on good terms with Giannis—he’s trying to do right by the Bucks. And that means that if every scenario in play leaves the other team so gutted that Giannis might not actually be in that much better of a situation, then maybe that’s where he looks at the room and says, “All right, let me stay put.”

Next best thing to Giannis shutting down the trade rumors by definitively saying he’s staying.