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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1041 » by Cactus Jack » Sat May 17, 2025 3:58 am

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Cactus Jack wrote:So, he gets $55m aav over the first 3 years of the contract. That's a pretty good chunk of change. That's Josh Allen money lol.


You should never pay a game manager that much money. Just an awful deal

They should've signed Darnold instead. :wink:

They would've gotten similar production out of him & not had to commit long-term. A short term deal. Which would've saved them a boatload of money.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1042 » by Cactus Jack » Sat May 17, 2025 4:13 am

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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1043 » by QB_Eagles » Sat May 17, 2025 8:27 am

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azcatz11 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:So, he gets $55m aav over the first 3 years of the contract. That's a pretty good chunk of change. That's Josh Allen money lol.


You should never pay a game manager that much money. Just an awful deal

They should've signed Darnold instead. :wink:

They would've gotten similar production out of him & not had to commit long-term. Just a 2 or 3 year deal. Which would've saved them a boatload of money.

But the 49ers already know Purdy is better than Darnold.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1044 » by QB_Eagles » Sat May 17, 2025 8:38 am

Cactus Jack wrote:So, he gets $55 mil aav over the first 3 years of the contract. That's a pretty good chunk of change. That's Josh Allen money lol.

It's better than back-loading the contract like the Cowboys did with Dak, which made it unable for them to move on from him without a huge dead cap hit, so instead they keep extending him.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1045 » by Cactus Jack » Sat May 17, 2025 8:57 am

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azcatz11 wrote:
You should never pay a game manager that much money. Just an awful deal

They should've signed Darnold instead. :wink:

They would've gotten similar production out of him & not had to commit long-term. Just a 2 or 3 year deal. Which would've saved them a boatload of money.

But the 49ers already know Purdy is better than Darnold.

You put Darnold in that offense & there isn't much of a difference. Darnold had a better year this past season. They're both fits for that system. Which is the argument for why you don't break the bank for Purdy. He's been good, but not great. By paying him, you make it more difficult to put together a roster that can compete. At the same time, put more of the burden on him to perform. They had a huge advantage over other teams because he wasn't making any money on his rookie deal. Well, that's no longer the case.

Fwiw I'm not saying Darnold will be great either. Just that it makes sense from a financial & team outlook perspective. Instead of committing long-term to a guy like Purdy. Who did struggle at times this past season.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1046 » by QB_Eagles » Sat May 17, 2025 9:34 am

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Cactus Jack wrote:They should've signed Darnold instead. :wink:

They would've gotten similar production out of him & not had to commit long-term. Just a 2 or 3 year deal. Which would've saved them a boatload of money.

But the 49ers already know Purdy is better than Darnold.

You put Darnold in that offense & there isn't much of a difference. Darnold had a better year this past season. They're both fits for that system. Which is the argument for why you don't break the bank for Purdy. He's been good, but not great. By paying him, you make it more difficult to put together a roster that can compete. At the same time, put more of the burden on him to perform. They had a huge advantage over other teams because he wasn't making any money on his rookie deal. Well, that's no longer the case.

Fwiw I'm not saying Darnold will be great either. Just that it makes sense from a financial & team outlook perspective. Instead of committing long-term to a guy like Purdy. Who did struggle at times this past season.

They already put Darnold in that offense and he did worse than Purdy.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1047 » by El Turco » Sat May 17, 2025 10:28 am

QB_Eagles wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
You should never pay a game manager that much money. Just an awful deal

They should've signed Darnold instead. :wink:

They would've gotten similar production out of him & not had to commit long-term. Just a 2 or 3 year deal. Which would've saved them a boatload of money.

But the 49ers already know Purdy is better than Darnold.


Seriously Darnold was Purdy's back up like 18 months ago when Purdy was an mvp candidate and 3rd all pro. Imagine Seahawks giving Mac Jones 100 mil in couple years.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1048 » by El Turco » Sat May 17, 2025 10:41 am

QB_Eagles wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:So, he gets $55 mil aav over the first 3 years of the contract. That's a pretty good chunk of change. That's Josh Allen money lol.

It's better than back-loading the contract like the Cowboys did with Dak, which made it unable for them to move on from him without a huge dead cap hit, so instead they keep extending him.


Dak had fully guaranteed 240m for 4 years. Purdy's guaranteed is 36million per year, that's difference of 24 million per year in guaranteed money. And Purdy signed his contract 2 years later.

I am against paying quarterbacks in principle but I thought he would get at least around 60m per with a lot more guaranteed, surprised he gave Niners a team friendly deal after making peanuts first three years.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1049 » by Mr B » Sat May 17, 2025 1:26 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:So, he gets $55 mil aav over the first 3 years of the contract. That's a pretty good chunk of change. That's Josh Allen money lol.

It's better than back-loading the contract like the Cowboys did with Dak, which made it unable for them to move on from him without a huge dead cap hit, so instead they keep extending him.

I’m not sure you know what backloading a contract means. It’s a 5 year contract worth $265M with $151M guaranteed. So if they are only paying him $55M over the first 3 years where does the rest of the money go? The final 2 years of the deal right? That’s backloading.

The contract was written to allow them to make moves over the next 3 years. Years 4-5 of the deal he’s going to have a huge cap hit.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1050 » by QB_Eagles » Sat May 17, 2025 1:32 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:So, he gets $55 mil aav over the first 3 years of the contract. That's a pretty good chunk of change. That's Josh Allen money lol.

It's better than back-loading the contract like the Cowboys did with Dak, which made it unable for them to move on from him without a huge dead cap hit, so instead they keep extending him.

I’m not sure you know what backloading a contract means. It’s a 5 year contract worth $265M with $151M guaranteed. So if they are only paying him $55M over the first 3 years where does the rest of the money go? The final 2 years of the deal right? That’s backloading.

The contract was written to allow them to make moves over the next 3 years. Years 4-5 of the deal he’s going to have a huge cap hit.

I'll reserve judgement until the full contract numbers are known.

But unless they are stupid, and it's true that he's getting $165 million over the first 3 years, that will also mean the guaranteed money will be mostly gone within the first 3 years.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1051 » by Mr B » Sat May 17, 2025 4:09 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:It's better than back-loading the contract like the Cowboys did with Dak, which made it unable for them to move on from him without a huge dead cap hit, so instead they keep extending him.

I’m not sure you know what backloading a contract means. It’s a 5 year contract worth $265M with $151M guaranteed. So if they are only paying him $55M over the first 3 years where does the rest of the money go? The final 2 years of the deal right? That’s backloading.

The contract was written to allow them to make moves over the next 3 years. Years 4-5 of the deal he’s going to have a huge cap hit.

I'll reserve judgement until the full contract numbers are known.

But unless they are stupid, and it's true that he's getting $165 million over the first 3 years, that will also mean the guaranteed money will be mostly gone within the first 3 years.

So is it $55M over 3 years or $55M per year for each of the first 3 seasons? Serious question. That’s a big difference.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1052 » by Cactus Jack » Sat May 17, 2025 5:05 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:But the 49ers already know Purdy is better than Darnold.

You put Darnold in that offense & there isn't much of a difference. Darnold had a better year this past season. They're both fits for that system. Which is the argument for why you don't break the bank for Purdy. He's been good, but not great. By paying him, you make it more difficult to put together a roster that can compete. At the same time, put more of the burden on him to perform. They had a huge advantage over other teams because he wasn't making any money on his rookie deal. Well, that's no longer the case.

Fwiw I'm not saying Darnold will be great either. Just that it makes sense from a financial & team outlook perspective. Instead of committing long-term to a guy like Purdy. Who did struggle at times this past season.

They already put Darnold in that offense and he did worse than Purdy.

He made one appearance as a backup iirc? The guy sat & never got a chance to play.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1053 » by Cactus Jack » Sat May 17, 2025 5:12 pm

El Turco wrote:
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Cactus Jack wrote:They should've signed Darnold instead. :wink:

They would've gotten similar production out of him & not had to commit long-term. Just a 2 or 3 year deal. Which would've saved them a boatload of money.

But the 49ers already know Purdy is better than Darnold.


Seriously Darnold was Purdy's back up like 18 months ago when Purdy was an mvp candidate and 3rd all pro. Imagine Seahawks giving Mac Jones 100 mil in couple years.

Lol if Mac played like Darnold this past season then someone would pay him starting money.

I'm not even a huge Darnold fan. But that's how it works. Darnold outplayed Purdy.

Darnold essentially got a 1 year & $37 mil guarantee. That's far less of a commitment than what the Niners just gave out to Purdy.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1054 » by QB_Eagles » Sat May 17, 2025 5:17 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:But the 49ers already know Purdy is better than Darnold.


Seriously Darnold was Purdy's back up like 18 months ago when Purdy was an mvp candidate and 3rd all pro. Imagine Seahawks giving Mac Jones 100 mil in couple years.

Lol if Mac played like Darnold this past season then someone would pay him starting money.

I'm not even a huge Darnold fan. But that's how it works. Darnold outplayed Purdy.

Not according to PFF.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1055 » by Cactus Jack » Sat May 17, 2025 5:33 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Lol if Mac played like Darnold this past season then someone would pay him starting money.

I'm not even a huge Darnold fan. But that's how it works. Darnold outplayed Purdy.

Not according to PFF.

lol

How many games did Purdy win last season? Darnold was in the MVP conversation before things unraveled for Minnesota.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1056 » by El Turco » Sat May 17, 2025 6:23 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:But the 49ers already know Purdy is better than Darnold.


Seriously Darnold was Purdy's back up like 18 months ago when Purdy was an mvp candidate and 3rd all pro. Imagine Seahawks giving Mac Jones 100 mil in couple years.

Lol if Mac played like Darnold this past season then someone would pay him starting money.

I'm not even a huge Darnold fan. But that's how it works. Darnold outplayed Purdy.

Darnold essentially got a 1 year & $37m guarantee. That's far less of a commitment than what the Niners just gave out to Purdy.


Darnold didnt outplay Purdy, Darnold with the best weapons in the league barely outplayed Purdy with Niners' C team. When they had the same teams Purdy was light years ahead.

Commitment time doesnt matter when you are bound to give a similar contract to a Darnold level player again, that's just how Seahawks operate.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1057 » by El Turco » Sat May 17, 2025 6:25 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
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Cactus Jack wrote:Lol if Mac played like Darnold this past season then someone would pay him starting money.

I'm not even a huge Darnold fan. But that's how it works. Darnold outplayed Purdy.

Not according to PFF.

lol

How many games did Purdy win last season? Darnold was in the MVP conversation before things unraveled for Minnesota.


Did you just give wins as a qb stat? Time to switch to volleyball bud :lol: :lol:
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1058 » by Cactus Jack » Sat May 17, 2025 7:00 pm

El Turco wrote:Commitment time doesnt matter when you are bound to give a similar contract to a Darnold level player again, that's just how Seahawks operate.

Bound?

He got the Baker Mayfield contract. Which is essentially a mid-level deal for a mid-level QB without a ton of guaranteed money beyond the first year. That's smart business.

Teams get in trouble when they hand out top of the market contracts for QB's who aren't that caliber of player. This is not the case with Darnold.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1059 » by Cactus Jack » Sat May 17, 2025 7:19 pm

El Turco wrote:Did you just give wins as a qb stat? Time to switch to volleyball bud :lol: :lol:

That's the whole point. :wink:

They struggled (6 wins) when he didn't have a stacked roster of playmakers to support him. They lost 6 of their last 7 games.

If you're going to give a guy that kind of money, I would expect him to be able to elevate the rest of the team.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1060 » by RIPskaterdude » Sat May 17, 2025 7:51 pm

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El Turco wrote:Did you just give wins as a qb stat? Time to switch to volleyball bud

That's the whole point. :wink:

They struggled (6 wins) when he didn't have a stacked roster of playmakers to support him. They lost 6 of their last 7 games.

If you're going to give a guy that kind of money, I would expect him to be able to elevate the rest of the team.
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