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Pairing Scottie with Giannis is like pairing Bosh with Jermaine O'Neal

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Re: Pairing Scottie with Giannis is like pairing Bosh with Jermaine O'Neal 

Post#101 » by TheRaptor! » Fri May 16, 2025 10:57 pm

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duppyy wrote:There will be a bidding war lol, so you think you get him without including Scottie?


There doesn't have to be a bidding war. Milwaukee could choose to give into his wishes and trade him to whatever team he wants to go to. Silver could also suggest a trade location for him (like the Luka to LAL trade).

Having said that, the Raptors will not be a team he asks to be traded to and Silver will not be ordering a trade of Giannis to Toronto.


He doesnt have to specifically ask for Toronto

Just to stay in the Eastern conference with a team that can compete for the Championship

That narrows it down to us and only us.

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No other team in the east can trade a young all star for him and keep a good roster afrerwards
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Re: Pairing Scottie with Giannis is like pairing Bosh with Jermaine O'Neal 

Post#102 » by rapz101 » Sat May 17, 2025 12:00 am

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See its **** like this that makes me think certain members in this forum should get banned from posting.

What the **** has Booker won as a No.1 option? a ticket to the finals? and you think he's a better fit than Giannis, the one who prevented him from winning a ring?

You really think a Booker-led team is going to win a title?!


Why’s this dude so angry tho? Lmao.

You just posted that Booker isn’t fit as a number 1 option because we haven’t seen him win a chip as a number 1 option. Oka, by that logic what makes Ingram any better? Because we need to give him a chance first before we label him unfit? If he was, the pelicans would’ve made him that over Zion or anyone else on that team, but they didn’t. And he’s also injured a lot. So even if he is THAT good, dude hasn’t been available enough to show it, so there’s that.

Yet you post that Ingram should deserve that chance and that their is a possibility he becomes that type of player for us.

I’m not even for or against booker or ingram as our lead guy for now, but i’m not understanding your goal post. If you’re giannis or bust, just say that.


We got him for peanuts


That’s fair, but in a vacuum, all variables aside, is Devin Booker not better than ingram?

I’d say yes, booker is better. So if the raptors actually had a chance of turning ingram into Devin booker for similar ‘peanuts’, you do it and not bicker about Booker not being a true number 1, because Ingram isn’t either (by the same logic).

But otherwise, yes, I agree Ingram was a good get and I’m glad we got him for ‘peanuts’.
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Re: Pairing Scottie with Giannis is like pairing Bosh with Jermaine O'Neal 

Post#103 » by Dennis 37 » Sat May 17, 2025 12:46 am

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kalel123 wrote:Pretty sure Bosh/O'Neal pairing's biggest issue wasn't the fit. Dude was done before he even got here. If snake oil salesman convinced you otherwise at the time, that's on you.


To be fair I was drinking the BC Koolaid alot when I young and naive. I was having dreams of us going 80-2 with both of them averaging double-doubles.

Also some of the games were still on CBC which was the only channel I had at the time to watch them.


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Re: Pairing Scottie with Giannis is like pairing Bosh with Jermaine O'Neal 

Post#104 » by Rainman66 » Sat May 17, 2025 4:30 am

TheRaptor! wrote:He doesnt have to specifically ask for Toronto

Just to stay in the Eastern conference with a team that can compete for the Championship

That narrows it down to us and only us.

IQ RJ BI Giannis Poetl

No other team in the east can trade a young all star for him and keep a good roster afrerwards


Is this the masterplan I'd rather stand pat and take our chances on a Jakucionis/Queen/Newell/Fears if thats the case :lol:
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Re: Pairing Scottie with Giannis is like pairing Bosh with Jermaine O'Neal 

Post#105 » by TheRaptor! » Sat May 17, 2025 8:13 am

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TheRaptor! wrote:He doesnt have to specifically ask for Toronto

Just to stay in the Eastern conference with a team that can compete for the Championship

That narrows it down to us and only us.

IQ RJ BI Giannis Poetl

No other team in the east can trade a young all star for him and keep a good roster afrerwards


Is this the masterplan I'd rather stand pat and take our chances on a Jakucionis/Queen/Newell/Fears if thats the case :lol:


Yea good thing the front office doesn’t think like you
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Re: Pairing Scottie with Giannis is like pairing Bosh with Jermaine O'Neal 

Post#107 » by tsherkin » Sat May 17, 2025 12:35 pm

rapz101 wrote:That’s fair, but in a vacuum, all variables aside, is Devin Booker not better than ingram?


Booker is considerably better, yes.
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Post#108 » by artsncrafts » Sat May 17, 2025 7:00 pm

The only possible way you would be able to trade for Giannis is by trading Scottie +, which is fine...in a vacuum, as Giannis is just what we wanted Scottie to be. I dont think you have to worry about pairing Giannis and Scottie if you are interested in trading for Giannis.
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Re: Pairing Scottie with Giannis is like pairing Bosh with Jermaine O'Neal 

Post#109 » by WaltFrazier » Sun May 18, 2025 4:57 pm

kalel123 wrote:Pretty sure Bosh/O'Neal pairing's biggest issue wasn't the fit. Dude was done before he even got here. If snake oil salesman convinced you otherwise at the time, that's on you.

This. A healthy Jermaine would have been a whole different story. Especially back then spacing wasn't as big a thing, post play still had value, and Bosh was a stretch 4 anyway.

But Giannis and Scottie, no, not enough spacing
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Re: Pairing Scottie with Giannis is like pairing Bosh with Jermaine O'Neal 

Post#110 » by WaltFrazier » Sun May 18, 2025 4:59 pm

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kalel123 wrote:Pretty sure Bosh/O'Neal pairing's biggest issue wasn't the fit. Dude was done before he even got here. If snake oil salesman convinced you otherwise at the time, that's on you.


To be fair I was drinking the BC Koolaid alot when I young and naive. I was having dreams of us going 80-2 with both of them averaging double-doubles.

Also some of the games were still on CBC which was the only channel I had at the time to watch them.


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Re: Pairing Scottie with Giannis is like pairing Bosh with Jermaine O'Neal 

Post#111 » by WaltFrazier » Sun May 18, 2025 5:05 pm

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TorontoBarneys wrote:If Masai is smart he'll be furiously going after Booker instead of Giannis. That Phoenix team is cooked and getting ready for its own tank era.

Booker would be a great fit on this team.


See its **** like this that makes me think certain members in this forum should get banned from posting.

What the **** has Booker won as a No.1 option? a ticket to the finals? and you think he's a better fit than Giannis, the one who prevented him from winning a ring?

You really think a Booker-led team is going to win a title?!


Obviously Giannis is better than Booker, but I think Booker would be a great add if he's available and you can't get Giannis.

With Booker you are getting a legit elite iso scorer who can give you 25-30 a night on pretty efficient shooting. He's only 28 years old.

I think Booker would fit like a glove with Barnes and Poeltl.

And great PR when Booker reunites with the Raptor
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Re: Pairing Scottie with Giannis is like pairing Bosh with Jermaine O'Neal 

Post#112 » by tsherkin » Sun May 18, 2025 6:04 pm

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TheGeneral99 wrote:
Matty wrote:
See its **** like this that makes me think certain members in this forum should get banned from posting.

What the **** has Booker won as a No.1 option? a ticket to the finals? and you think he's a better fit than Giannis, the one who prevented him from winning a ring?

You really think a Booker-led team is going to win a title?!


Obviously Giannis is better than Booker, but I think Booker would be a great add if he's available and you can't get Giannis.

With Booker you are getting a legit elite iso scorer who can give you 25-30 a night on pretty efficient shooting. He's only 28 years old.

I think Booker would fit like a glove with Barnes and Poeltl.

And great PR when Booker reunites with the Raptor


Booker would be a major positive for us, for sure. He's an excellent volume scorer, passes pretty well. Isn't a dominant 3pt shooter but, even in a down year, was decent last season anyway. Nasty mid-range scorer. Certainly an immediate and massive upgrade from RJ, despite RJ's improvements.
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Re: Pairing Scottie with Giannis is like pairing Bosh with Jermaine O'Neal 

Post#113 » by ash_k » Sun May 18, 2025 6:46 pm

I don't know how anyone could think that any Giannis trade would not involve Scottie(fit aside).
I know Masai is good and all, but this is when having Injuries and not playing them hurt the values:
Imagine IQ playing most of season and averaging the expected 20pts, then right now you could sell" giving you a backcourt for the next 10 years in IQ&RJ and another 20 pts scorer in Gradey Dick and the 9th pick..."
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