Matas Progress Tracker

[coldfish]

Billy's done a fantastic job with Matas. Matas hasn't received any entitlement minutes. If he earns the right, he plays. Consequently, he's making good decisions out there. He knows that if he does not, Billy will find somebody else for his slot. And he's confident, because he knows that he has earned the right to be on the court.

That's a model for rookie development, unless you have a guy who is so NBA ready that he can start from Day 1.

+1. The counter example is Patrick Williams who was anointed on day 1 and has been nothing more than a bust who hasn't developed. I wonder if Matas was handled differently as a "lessons learned" from Patrick.

[sco]

I still like him as a 3, and find a bigger guy for the 4.

I know we've spoken about this before, but it deserves a refresh. The league is dominated by teams with the 2 7ft guys in the post. I agree that Matas should play at the 3 for us, and we try to find a guy who can go against the Mobley's of the league. The draft is full of guys like that. Matas' game is about quickness, and I am begging for him to not to Lauri-up. I did hear him say that he doesn't want that, so there's hope.

[Jcool0]

Billy's done a fantastic job with Matas. Matas hasn't received any entitlement minutes. If he earns the right, he plays. Consequently, he's making good decisions out there. He knows that if he does not, Billy will find somebody else for his slot. And he's confident, because he knows that he has earned the right to be on the court.

That's a model for rookie development, unless you have a guy who is so NBA ready that he can start from Day 1.

+1. The counter example is Patrick Williams who was anointed on day 1 and has been nothing more than a bust who hasn't developed. I wonder if Matas was handled differently as a "lessons learned" from Patrick.

I doubt he learned anything from Williams. He was playing close to 30 MPG & starting pretty much every year till after the All Star break this year.

[Indomitable]

Billy's done a fantastic job with Matas. Matas hasn't received any entitlement minutes. If he earns the right, he plays. Consequently, he's making good decisions out there. He knows that if he does not, Billy will find somebody else for his slot. And he's confident, because he knows that he has earned the right to be on the court.

That's a model for rookie development, unless you have a guy who is so NBA ready that he can start from Day 1.

+1. The counter example is Patrick Williams who was anointed on day 1 and has been nothing more than a bust who hasn't developed. I wonder if Matas was handled differently as a "lessons learned" from Patrick.

I doubt Pat would be different. He is a uninspired role player.

He talks like a guy who happy to be here.

[coldfish]

Billy's done a fantastic job with Matas. Matas hasn't received any entitlement minutes. If he earns the right, he plays. Consequently, he's making good decisions out there. He knows that if he does not, Billy will find somebody else for his slot. And he's confident, because he knows that he has earned the right to be on the court.

That's a model for rookie development, unless you have a guy who is so NBA ready that he can start from Day 1.

+1. The counter example is Patrick Williams who was anointed on day 1 and has been nothing more than a bust who hasn't developed. I wonder if Matas was handled differently as a "lessons learned" from Patrick.

I doubt he learned anything from Williams. He was playing close to 30 MPG & starting pretty much every year till after the All Star break this year.

I'm saying the Bulls learned from Patrick. No more entitlement minutes.

[Indomitable]

+1. The counter example is Patrick Williams who was anointed on day 1 and has been nothing more than a bust who hasn't developed. I wonder if Matas was handled differently as a "lessons learned" from Patrick.

I doubt he learned anything from Williams. He was playing close to 30 MPG & starting pretty much every year till after the All Star break this year.

I'm saying the Bulls learned from Patrick. No more entitlement minutes.

I believe you have dog in you or you do not.

Patrick is not that guy. Matas was a cocky and determined guy. He challenged the guy who went first to a workout before the draft.

Pat is who he is. He has not improved because he is not ambitious. Matas might have been helped but he has that in his personality.

[Tetlak]

I still like him as a 3, and find a bigger guy for the 4.

I know we've spoken about this before, but it deserves a refresh. The league is dominated by teams with the 2 7ft guys in the post. I agree that Matas should play at the 3 for us, and we try to find a guy who can go against the Mobley's of the league. The draft is full of guys like that. Matas' game is about quickness, and I am begging for him to not to Lauri-up. I did hear him say that he doesn't want that, so there's hope.

Meanwhile the Warriors are starting Butler and Dray at the 4/5. Also the multiple 7 foot guys is simply not true; one team, The Cavs =/= "the league". And if we're being realistic, The Cavs probably won't win the title.

[DASMACKDOWN]

I still like him as a 3, and find a bigger guy for the 4.

I know we've spoken about this before, but it deserves a refresh. The league is dominated by teams with the 2 7ft guys in the post. I agree that Matas should play at the 3 for us, and we try to find a guy who can go against the Mobley's of the league. The draft is full of guys like that. Matas' game is about quickness, and I am begging for him to not to Lauri-up. I did hear him say that he doesn't want that, so there's hope.

Also the multiple 7 foot guys is simply not true; one team, The Cavs =/= "the league". And if we're being realistic, The Cavs probably won't win the title.

Not sure what you mean here but the two best teams in the league had 2 7 footers in their starting lineup. Cleveland Mobley/Allen and OKC Chet/IHart

That for one, is enough to say, maybe they are on to something.

Its not just get 2 7 footers out there and call it a day. No its 2 mobile 7 footers is the key here.

The thing is, it's a copycat league. Whomever has a new idea and it works and they win the title, you can best believe the rest of the league will follow.

My guess is teams will start moving away from having 6'7 PFs and looking for guys 6'10 6'11 or taller. That to pair with a 7 footer or have interchangeable parts.

As this idea pertains to the Bulls, Matas can and should be the "Wing of the future". Notice I didn't say SG, SF or PF. He is a wing player meaning its fluid. But I do think its best if Matas were paired next to someone bigger than he is. This is exactly what OKC did for Chet.

So while Matas needs to gain weight just so he isnt pushed around by smaller guys, grab a bigger PF/C to pair with Matas and then we would be on to something.

Meanwhile the Warriors are starting Butler and Dray at the 4/5.

Its funny you mention this part as the Warriors are about to blow another 3-1 lead in a series. Who is hurting the Warriors the most? Its Sengun and Adams. Now they arent using them together, but they are destroying the smaller GS team.

[Tetlak]

I know we've spoken about this before, but it deserves a refresh. The league is dominated by teams with the 2 7ft guys in the post. I agree that Matas should play at the 3 for us, and we try to find a guy who can go against the Mobley's of the league. The draft is full of guys like that. Matas' game is about quickness, and I am begging for him to not to Lauri-up. I did hear him say that he doesn't want that, so there's hope.

Also the multiple 7 foot guys is simply not true; one team, The Cavs =/= "the league". And if we're being realistic, The Cavs probably won't win the title.

Not sure what you mean here but the two best teams in the league had 2 7 footers in their starting lineup. Cleveland Mobley/Allen and OKC Chet/IHart

That for one, is enough to say, maybe they are on to something.

Its not just get 2 7 footers out there and call it a day. No its 2 mobile 7 footers is the key here.

The thing is, it's a copycat league. Whomever has a new idea and it works and they win the title, you can best believe the rest of the league will follow.

My guess is teams will start moving away from having 6'7 PFs and looking for guys 6'10 6'11 or taller. That to pair with a 7 footer or have interchangeable parts.

As this idea pertains to the Bulls, Matas can and should be the "Wing of the future". Notice I didn't say SG, SF or PF. He is a wing player meaning its fluid. But I do think its best if Matas were paired next to someone bigger than he is. This is exactly what OKC did for Chet.

So while Matas needs to gain weight just so he isnt pushed around by smaller guys, grab a bigger PF/C to pair with Matas and then we would be on to something.

Meanwhile the Warriors are starting Butler and Dray at the 4/5.

Its funny you mention this part as the Warriors are about to blow another 3-1 lead in a series. Who is hurting the Warriors the most? Its Sengun and Adams. Now they arent using them together, but they are destroying the smaller GS team.

This is disingenuous. Everyone knows OKC is built to have one of the fastest/most athletic defenses ever. Nobody would stop talking about how special they were in that regard when Chet/Hart were alternating injuries. They have 2 centers simply for situational basketball. Hartenstein played 23 minutes per game in round 1, not even half the game, and played more in the backup C role despite starting the games.

When push comes to shove, their bread and butter is 4 highly quick and chaotic defenders playing with 1 big.

[Shill]

Also the multiple 7 foot guys is simply not true; one team, The Cavs =/= "the league". And if we're being realistic, The Cavs probably won't win the title.

Not sure what you mean here but the two best teams in the league had 2 7 footers in their starting lineup. Cleveland Mobley/Allen and OKC Chet/IHart

That for one, is enough to say, maybe they are on to something.

Its not just get 2 7 footers out there and call it a day. No its 2 mobile 7 footers is the key here.

The thing is, it's a copycat league. Whomever has a new idea and it works and they win the title, you can best believe the rest of the league will follow.

My guess is teams will start moving away from having 6'7 PFs and looking for guys 6'10 6'11 or taller. That to pair with a 7 footer or have interchangeable parts.

As this idea pertains to the Bulls, Matas can and should be the "Wing of the future". Notice I didn't say SG, SF or PF. He is a wing player meaning its fluid. But I do think its best if Matas were paired next to someone bigger than he is. This is exactly what OKC did for Chet.

So while Matas needs to gain weight just so he isnt pushed around by smaller guys, grab a bigger PF/C to pair with Matas and then we would be on to something.

Meanwhile the Warriors are starting Butler and Dray at the 4/5.

Its funny you mention this part as the Warriors are about to blow another 3-1 lead in a series. Who is hurting the Warriors the most? Its Sengun and Adams. Now they arent using them together, but they are destroying the smaller GS team.

This is disingenuous. Everyone knows OKC is built to have one of the fastest/most athletic defenses ever. Nobody would stop talking about how special they were in that regard when Chet/Hart were alternating injuries. They have 2 centers simply for situational basketball. Hartenstein played 23 minutes per game in round 1, not even half the game, and played more in the backup C role despite starting the games.

When push comes to shove, their bread and butter is 4 highly quick and chaotic defenders playing with 1 big.

Yeah, it's hard to find two athletic 7-footers. We can't even find one.

I think Matas is a 4 in today's NBA. He doesn't even need to bulk up all that much. He should be able to comfortably get up to 225 lbs.

[DASMACKDOWN]

I was so wishing for Cooper and Matas in our front court. It would have been special. Oh well.

[WindyCityBorn]

I know we've spoken about this before, but it deserves a refresh. The league is dominated by teams with the 2 7ft guys in the post. I agree that Matas should play at the 3 for us, and we try to find a guy who can go against the Mobley's of the league. The draft is full of guys like that. Matas' game is about quickness, and I am begging for him to not to Lauri-up. I did hear him say that he doesn't want that, so there's hope.

Also the multiple 7 foot guys is simply not true; one team, The Cavs =/= "the league". And if we're being realistic, The Cavs probably won't win the title.

Not sure what you mean here but the two best teams in the league had 2 7 footers in their starting lineup. Cleveland Mobley/Allen and OKC Chet/IHart

That for one, is enough to say, maybe they are on to something.

Its not just get 2 7 footers out there and call it a day. No its 2 mobile 7 footers is the key here.

The thing is, it's a copycat league. Whomever has a new idea and it works and they win the title, you can best believe the rest of the league will follow.

My guess is teams will start moving away from having 6'7 PFs and looking for guys 6'10 6'11 or taller. That to pair with a 7 footer or have interchangeable parts.

As this idea pertains to the Bulls, Matas can and should be the "Wing of the future". Notice I didn't say SG, SF or PF. He is a wing player meaning its fluid. But I do think its best if Matas were paired next to someone bigger than he is. This is exactly what OKC did for Chet.

So while Matas needs to gain weight just so he isnt pushed around by smaller guys, grab a bigger PF/C to pair with Matas and then we would be on to something.

Meanwhile the Warriors are starting Butler and Dray at the 4/5.

Its funny you mention this part as the Warriors are about to blow another 3-1 lead in a series. Who is hurting the Warriors the most? Its Sengun and Adams. Now they arent using them together, but they are destroying the smaller GS team.

I’ve been saying 6’7” PFs are a not ideal for a while. Can’t wait to see real size at PF again on Bulls. 6’10” in shoes. Asa Newell…

[Jcool0]

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[cocktailswith_2short]

Hell yeah

[Hangtime84]

I was so wishing for Cooper and Matas in our front court. It would have been special. Oh well.

Budget version of it is needed.

[kodo]

KC mentioned an interesting trivia fact during this announcement, the Bulls as a team have the most all-Rookie selections historically.
Overall one of the best drafting teams in the league.

[sco]

KC mentioned an interesting trivia fact during this announcement, the Bulls as a team have the most all-Rookie selections historically.
Overall one of the best drafting teams in the league.

Well, to be fair, the Pax era had some impressive drafting prowess...miss it. One could also say that All-Rookie selections usually go to the rookies who start, which is much more likely on bad teams. So maybe it's a contra-indicator of a good organization.

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[DropStep]

I think Matas is a 4 in today's NBA. He doesn't even need to bulk up all that much. He should be able to comfortably get up to 225 lbs.

One of my low-key favorite things about him is his shot blocking potential. It would be less useful at the 3, especially for a team that currently has so little rim protection - not that the current roster is very important in the scheme of things.

[Jcool0]

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