Texas Chuck wrote:jredsaz wrote:jbk1234 wrote:
What's optimal for the Bucks is to get a team to relent and include a player they don't want to include.
I mean that’s fair but as the Bucks I’d be more interested in restocking the pantry with picks. I need flexibility and multiple swings. In the end I’m guessing your point basically comes down to extracting Thompson from Houston.
But not Mobley from the Cavs.
Every fanbase wants to hold back their best piece. Understandable. What surprises me is how few posters are willing to budge to get the 3rd best player in the league in his prime. Especially teams that are clearly a Giannis away from being among the favorites even after dealing their sacred cow for him.
I'd trade Flagg for him even with Dallas not really being that because well Giannis just needs to get them to the tournament and then if you get a healthy AD/Kyrie(big if I know) then anything is possible. Can't imagine being one of these teams in much better position and in the easy conference not wanting to get their hands on him.
Giannis is in his prime, but it might be his late prime (hard to tell with physical outliers like him). He doesn't have outside shooting to fall back on when his athleticism declines. He only has two years on his contract, so your roster needs to be competitive now and a good fit post-trade. To be a good fit, you need a starting stretch big. It's not as easy figuring things out as it would be if you were trading for, say, Luka.
Because of the 2nd apron, every Cavs Giannis trade that involves Mobley leaves the Cavs with a relatively bare roster with a less-than-ideal frontcourt pairing in Giannis-Allen. To fix that too, you're tearing a 64-win team down to the studs. It's reasonable to just decide to stay the course with your talented likely-All-NBA 23 year-old and keep the existing roster together as much as possible.
Not saying a Giannis trade would be a bad idea for Cleveland, but it's very hard to get right and the penalties for not getting it right are pretty high.