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Re: PG: Knicks vs Indy: Game 1 ECF 

Post#381 » by snadler » Thu May 22, 2025 5:44 am

The one play that is literally keeping me awake, knicks up 123-118 with the ball, 2 possession game under 30 seconds, Brunson has the ball, first and foremost, the idea is NOT TO SCORE, it’s to run out the clock. Brunson is your best free throw shooter first why is he giving up the ball? Why is he throwing that pass to OG who has horrible hands. Of course the officials overturn the call because they always do vs the Knicks, you don’t let the officials decide the outcome. I know some are saying the knicks dominated for 45 minutes, which should give us hope, BUT remember, the c’s were in the same boat and lost the series.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Indy: Game 1 ECF 

Post#382 » by Capn'O » Thu May 22, 2025 5:44 am

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Worst_to_First wrote:I am very upset about the loss. Especially I was pulled out for an important call before the collapse happened and was expecting a win.

That being said, we just have to trust our captain JB when he said this is a mentally tough team. The only way we lose this is if the coaching staff prioritizes JB winning the ECF MVP over actually coaching smartly to beat a strong Pacers team.

This will be similar to the Bucks run in 2021. They threw Game 1 versus the Hawks but won the series in 6. They also dropped the first two games against the Suns before completing a back door sweep.


Thunder just last round is another example. Now they're rollin'.

That call was a blessing, lol.


You beat me to it. :lol:

I think OKC lost like this against Denver in Game 1 but they were able to recover from it.

If we cannot do the same, then we don’t deserve to face them in the Finals (with all due respect to Minny who is far from out of it).


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Re: PG: Knicks vs Indy: Game 1 ECF 

Post#383 » by LethalRangee » Thu May 22, 2025 5:44 am

It feels like Thibs' gameplan down the stretch is just "put the ball in JB's hands and run down the clock", but that won't cut it in the playoffs, especially when the defenders are playing a fullcourt press and you NEED to get it down the floor.
His lack of adjustments are honestly tragic, and I'm sure he'll get thoroughly outcoached by Carlisle in future games like tonight. Hopefully the talent we have can offset that, but it's sad that Thibs will get to keep his HC position when there's so many better candidates out there. This team won't reach its full potential.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Indy: Game 1 ECF 

Post#384 » by Capn'O » Thu May 22, 2025 5:45 am

snadler wrote:The one play that is literally keeping me awake, knicks up 123-118 with the ball, 2 possession game under 30 seconds, Brunson has the ball, first and foremost, the idea is NOT TO SCORE, it’s to run out the clock. Brunson is your best free throw shooter first why is he giving up the ball? Why is he throwing that pass to OG who has horrible hands. Of course the officials overturn the call because they always do vs the Knicks, you don’t let the officials decide the outcome. I know some are saying the knicks dominated for 45 minutes, which should give us hope, BUT remember, the c’s were in the same boat and lost the series.


It looked like an easy 2 pts but he flubbed the pass. He made a few unforced errors under the pressure that he usually doesn't make.

I almost prefer when Brunson is cold in the first half because he defers until the mid-3rd. He may have gassed out early tonight.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Indy: Game 1 ECF 

Post#385 » by snadler » Thu May 22, 2025 5:48 am

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snadler wrote:The one play that is literally keeping me awake, knicks up 123-118 with the ball, 2 possession game under 30 seconds, Brunson has the ball, first and foremost, the idea is NOT TO SCORE, it’s to run out the clock. Brunson is your best free throw shooter first why is he giving up the ball? Why is he throwing that pass to OG who has horrible hands. Of course the officials overturn the call because they always do vs the Knicks, you don’t let the officials decide the outcome. I know some are saying the knicks dominated for 45 minutes, which should give us hope, BUT remember, the c’s were in the same boat and lost the series.


It looked like an easy 2 pts but he flubbed the pass. He made a few unforced errors under the pressure that he usually doesn't make.

I almost prefer when Brunson is cold in the first half because he defers until the mid-3rd. He may have gassed out early tonight.


Who cares if it’s an easy 2 points, running the clock was more important than the 2 points, the pass was too risky not in that spot because the clock is needing to run, not the 2 points
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Post#386 » by gavran » Thu May 22, 2025 5:54 am

I also hate the fact, that goaltends cannot be reviwed, but if you stepped on the line, that is fine. That was a 5 point game in OT, and the bitched call got them on open three.
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Post#387 » by snadler » Thu May 22, 2025 5:54 am

Another thing keeping me awake and this happened in the regular season, refs should ALWAYS make the goaltending call, why? Simple, once you make it, you can review it, and if its the WRONG call you can take the 2 points off. It literally makes no sense Not to call it. Up 6 at that point, they might have still blown it, but you never know.
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Post#388 » by snadler » Thu May 22, 2025 5:56 am

gavran wrote:I also hate the fact, that goaltends cannot be reviwed, but if you stepped on the line, that is fine. That was a 5 point game in OT, and the bitched call got them on open three.


That’s the thing, a goaltend CAN BE REVIEWED, if the officials call it a goaltend, once called they can review and if it’s not they take the points away. Which is why i just posted, if it’s close..call it..
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Indy: Game 1 ECF 

Post#389 » by Jay10 » Thu May 22, 2025 6:02 am

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snadler wrote:The one play that is literally keeping me awake, knicks up 123-118 with the ball, 2 possession game under 30 seconds, Brunson has the ball, first and foremost, the idea is NOT TO SCORE, it’s to run out the clock. Brunson is your best free throw shooter first why is he giving up the ball? Why is he throwing that pass to OG who has horrible hands. Of course the officials overturn the call because they always do vs the Knicks, you don’t let the officials decide the outcome. I know some are saying the knicks dominated for 45 minutes, which should give us hope, BUT remember, the c’s were in the same boat and lost the series.


It looked like an easy 2 pts but he flubbed the pass. He made a few unforced errors under the pressure that he usually doesn't make.

I almost prefer when Brunson is cold in the first half because he defers until the mid-3rd. He may have gassed out early tonight.


The moment got too big for Jalen at the end of the game.

There were 34 second left in the game, and the Knicks had a 24 second clock available to them with a 5 point lead, and Jalen got greedy looking for points instead of taking as much time off the clock as possible.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Indy: Game 1 ECF 

Post#390 » by Context » Thu May 22, 2025 6:02 am

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Right. We've gotta respect our opponent and all of that but it's not time to despair at all. It smells like bitch in here again and I don't like it. Long damn series. Nuggets took G1 from the Thunder in brutal fashion and Thunder won in 7. We can do this but it's gonna have to be the hard way. They're not massively better than us because they grabbed our souls one game. But these two teams are close and they're VERY well coached. And they went on a wild, wild heater that we've seen from our group this very playoffs. Keep pushing.

I think most of us are not "scared" of Indy because of the loss Cap. It's that we knew that the Knicks took the 14 point lead with 3 minutes for granted.
Hart said this in the post game interview. We essentially threw a game away and I think thats the energy for the most part. I feel like my energy and time was wasted unnecessarily. It shouldn't have happened. AT this point they should know better. You did all of that work to throw it away with 3 minutes to go?!


My issue is people are acting like the series is over now. It's still very young. This could be what takes us down or it could be a bump in the road.

Make no mistake, tonight was very disappointing. We were on our way to a path for an short series and that path is all but gone for us.

They have it in them to run off 4 of the next 5 but can they grow over night? because clearly when I thought they grew from game 5 vs the celtics in game 6- they went right back to the nonsense...we'll know in a week...finally going to bed guys...
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Post#391 » by ctorres » Thu May 22, 2025 6:06 am

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Post#392 » by K_ick_God » Thu May 22, 2025 6:10 am

snadler wrote:The one play that is literally keeping me awake, knicks up 123-118 with the ball, 2 possession game under 30 seconds, Brunson has the ball, first and foremost, the idea is NOT TO SCORE, it’s to run out the clock. Brunson is your best free throw shooter first why is he giving up the ball? Why is he throwing that pass to OG who has horrible hands. Of course the officials overturn the call because they always do vs the Knicks, you don’t let the officials decide the outcome. I know some are saying the knicks dominated for 45 minutes, which should give us hope, BUT remember, the c’s were in the same boat and lost the series.


Another stupid play yeah. 0g is bad, he just is. Brunson also threw it away to Josh but luckily he got it — was another asinine decision by Thibs, JB throwing it in lol

Brunson is overused by the clown coach. No creativity in how he uses Brunson or KAT and 0g is a weak as hell poor finisher

Thibs did this against Detroit at MSG, so it’s just happening a lot - he’s making inexcusable mistakes and needs to be removed
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Indy: Game 1 ECF 

Post#393 » by K_ick_God » Thu May 22, 2025 6:12 am

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snadler wrote:The one play that is literally keeping me awake, knicks up 123-118 with the ball, 2 possession game under 30 seconds, Brunson has the ball, first and foremost, the idea is NOT TO SCORE, it’s to run out the clock. Brunson is your best free throw shooter first why is he giving up the ball? Why is he throwing that pass to OG who has horrible hands. Of course the officials overturn the call because they always do vs the Knicks, you don’t let the officials decide the outcome. I know some are saying the knicks dominated for 45 minutes, which should give us hope, BUT remember, the c’s were in the same boat and lost the series.


It looked like an easy 2 pts but he flubbed the pass. He made a few unforced errors under the pressure that he usually doesn't make.

I almost prefer when Brunson is cold in the first half because he defers until the mid-3rd. He may have gassed out early tonight.


The moment got too big for Jalen at the end of the game.

There were 34 second left in the game, and the Knicks had a 24 second clock available to them with a 5 point lead, and Jalen got greedy looking for points instead of taking as much time off the clock as possible.


I’d differ on greedy and say it is sheer idiocy … opening a door that is closed … like 0g’s 3 attempt early in the clock

And all of that goes on the coach’s shoulders 100%
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Indy: Game 1 ECF 

Post#394 » by The KnicksFix » Thu May 22, 2025 6:16 am

The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done! Now if you know what you're worth then go out and get what you're worth. But ya gotta be willing to take the hits, and not pointing fingers saying you ain't where you wanna be because of him, or her, or anybody! Cowards do that and that ain't you!

The bulls were down 0-2 to us in 1993. They won four straight
The bucks were down 0-2 to the suns and won 4 straight against the suns
Okc just lost game 1 to the nuggets in heartbreaking fashion and still won the series in 7
This series is far from over.
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Post#395 » by K_ick_God » Thu May 22, 2025 6:17 am

mpharris36 wrote:I'm miserable. Should be riding a high going into game 2 right now.


But you didn’t do dumb stuff, the Knicks did

In fact you see all the dumb stuff so good for you

Knicks jus don’t know what they’re doing — we just know now that they’re not good or smart enough or well managed by Thibs and staff

Better to know sooner that they don’t know what they’re doing … limit that disappointment later
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Indy: Game 1 ECF 

Post#396 » by G_K_F » Thu May 22, 2025 6:19 am

Read on Twitter
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Yeah, it’s done.

Pacers have something different this year. It’s OK to admit it. We don’t have what they have.
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Post#397 » by WaltFrazier » Thu May 22, 2025 6:20 am

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KnicksGod wrote:0g has looked bad all playoffs basically

Looks slow and weak … shot comes and goes and mostly goes

Feels like he’s in the way and we need more Deuce, less him

Hart’s foul on Siakam was terrible too


OG has also played more games and minutes than he ever has before. His usage is also higher than ever before. He looks worn down.

You have to wonder if the minutes/usage are also effecting Bridges - although his shot has been off all year.

OG had a big run when Jalen first went out, 5 points, some defensive stops.
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Post#398 » by The KnicksFix » Thu May 22, 2025 6:20 am

WTF was wrong this hart’s sneakers
Dood was slip and sliding all night
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Post#399 » by ctorres » Thu May 22, 2025 6:24 am

The KnicksFix wrote:WTF was wrong this hart’s sneakers
Dood was slip and sliding all night


You think it could have been the court? I'll have to check the video again, but I'm pretty sure he slipped on the logo.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Indy: Game 1 ECF 

Post#400 » by The KnicksFix » Thu May 22, 2025 6:24 am

G_K_F wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Yeah, it’s done.

Pacers have something different this year. It’s OK to admit it. We don’t have what they have.


It’s not done
It’s not over
It’s far from it
It’s game 1
The Knicks won’t let it happen again
I keep saying. The Knicks will win this series

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