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Post#221 » by MickeyDavis » Fri May 23, 2025 3:02 pm

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Profound23 wrote:Giannis met with Bucks. Not only did he not demand or request a trade but Giannis expressed his eagerness to move forward with Milwaukee and win another title.

Let's see how the media spins this now.


Who reported this? The phony twitter guy?

I've seen nothing credible either. Lots of random social media b.s. where everyone has a "source".
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Post#222 » by emunney » Fri May 23, 2025 3:06 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
th87 wrote:Also not the exact same thing, but do people regard KAJ as a Buck or a Laker? Do people even remember he played in Milwaukee?

And in this era with even shorter memories and attention spans?


This could go either way. Is Reggie White and Eagle or a Packer? Is Shaq a Laker or a Heat?

Clearly KG embraced Boston as his legacy.

A big difference though with Kareem is time. 6 years versus 12 years. And Giannis loves Milwaukee. Kareem always wanted out to NY or LA.


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Post#223 » by Bernman » Fri May 23, 2025 3:10 pm

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Profound23 wrote:Giannis met with Bucks. Not only did he not demand or request a trade but Giannis expressed his eagerness to move forward with Milwaukee and win another title.

Let's see how the media spins this now.


Who reported this? The phony twitter guy?

I've seen nothing credible either. Lots of random social media b.s. where everyone has a "source".


Sure, that's true when it comes to the Bucks' meeting this week. But Wright's probably piggybacking Jim O's real reporting they met during the combine and Giannis reaffirmed he's happy with the direction.

So what more do we need to learn from this meeting? It seems just a discussion on what they're actually going to try to do and how Giannis can help.
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Post#224 » by soxperry » Fri May 23, 2025 3:16 pm

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Seriously? You think we could get like Keldon Johnson as “filler” as well (flawed game and all but still someone id gladly take in this aforementioned deal) and what else?

Man, if I can get Castle, Vassell, Sochan, Keldon, Harper Jr at 1.2, whomever at 1.14, our choice of the spurs owned three future firsts, I am ok dealing my favorite athlete in any sport of all time.


Nah. Spurs fans are saying Castle and 1.2 are untouchable in a trade for Giannis because they have literal worms in their brains.

True value for Giannis is everything you mentioned above but the pick package should be 1.2, 1.14, 2.38, 27Atl, 28 Bos and SAS swap, 30 best of SAS/MN/DAL picks, 31 sac and SAS swap rights, 32 SAS, five more seconds, they throw in Barnes so the Bucks can ditch Kuz, and the rights to all seven of their draft and stash dudes. The Spurs will select for the Bucks during the draft so the trade is official after the draft which opens up that 32 first.

And even that is an underpay for arguably the best player in the world. But at least the Bucks would have the following picks:
2025 2, 14, and 38
2026 Worse of their and Pels
27 Atlanta’s
28 Second best of theirs, Portlands, Bostons, and Spurs
30 best of best of SAS/Dal/MN and worst of their and Blazers (so two firsts)
31 best of theirs, SAC, SAS
32 theirs and SAS
Five more seconds
Plus whatever picks they get when they flip Barnes and Pats expiring to another team that needs to ditch a longer term contract this offseason.
And plus whatever they get next offseason when they do the same with Dame’s expiring.


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Post#225 » by Profound23 » Fri May 23, 2025 3:33 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:
Profound23 wrote:Giannis met with Bucks. Not only did he not demand or request a trade but Giannis expressed his eagerness to move forward with Milwaukee and win another title.

Let's see how the media spins this now.


Who reported this? The phony twitter guy?

I've seen nothing credible either. Lots of random social media b.s. where everyone has a "source".



Sean Wright is a phony twitter guy? I have seen his work with ESPN. Sorry if it's not credible, thought it was.
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Post#226 » by jakecronus8 » Fri May 23, 2025 3:35 pm

It's been interesting bandying about ideas but deep down I don't think I've changed my stance that if Flagg is on the table there's a discussion but ultimately Flagg on his own is not likely to get a deal done.

If he's not on the table we move forward.

The thing that sucks about option 2 is Horst/Doc's presence. Would be a lot more hope for me if that was a different pairing.
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Post#227 » by Ron Swanson » Fri May 23, 2025 3:41 pm

If we don't hear anything today then we probably have to assume that they indeed already met and that Jim O. tidbit was correct, right? Would once again be hilarious to watch Shams, Windhorst and all these clowns crawl back into their holes after yet another offseason of presenting their blind speculation/wish-casting as actual rumors/sources.
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Post#228 » by RRyder823 » Fri May 23, 2025 3:47 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:
Profound23 wrote:Giannis met with Bucks. Not only did he not demand or request a trade but Giannis expressed his eagerness to move forward with Milwaukee and win another title.

Let's see how the media spins this now.


Who reported this? The phony twitter guy?

I've seen nothing credible either. Lots of random social media b.s. where everyone has a "source".
Well there was the journals article that said he allready told them he doesn't want a trade

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Post#229 » by PG Graveyard » Fri May 23, 2025 3:57 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
Who reported this? The phony twitter guy?

I've seen nothing credible either. Lots of random social media b.s. where everyone has a "source".
Well there was the journals article that said he allready told them he doesn't want a trade

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When did Jim O say this? That should have gotten more coverage than Shams “league sources” BS.
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Post#230 » by Ron Swanson » Fri May 23, 2025 4:03 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:I've seen nothing credible either. Lots of random social media b.s. where everyone has a "source".
Well there was the journals article that said he allready told them he doesn't want a trade

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When did Jim O say this? That should have gotten more coverage than Shams “league sources” BS.


It was a few pages back but the way it was worded kinda led to some speculation as to if he meant that the official sit-down meeting was still happening, but he said point blank that "by the time the Combine had concluded on May 18th, Giannis and the Bucks had met and talked".
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Post#231 » by JayMKE » Fri May 23, 2025 4:08 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:If we don't hear anything today then we probably have to assume that they indeed already met and that Jim O. tidbit was correct, right? Would once again be hilarious to watch Shams, Windhorst and all these clowns crawl back into their holes after yet another offseason of presenting their blind speculation/wish-casting as actual rumors/sources.

If it speculated the other way they’d be leading ESPN with it for the next month. It was nonsense based on absolutely nothing too, just cherry picking together interviews over the years about Giannis commenting on winning and the making **** up about him being “open minded about playing elsewhere” because Dame is hurt apparently.
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Post#232 » by Bernman » Fri May 23, 2025 4:16 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:It's been interesting bandying about ideas but deep down I don't think I've changed my stance that if Flagg is on the table there's a discussion but ultimately Flagg on his own is not likely to get a deal done.

If he's not on the table we move forward.

The thing that sucks about option 2 is Horst/Doc's presence. Would be a lot more hope for me if that was a different pairing.


If the Mavs are compelled to choose a direction, I think they would trade Flagg, because they took so much heat on the AD move, out of pride they don't want want to invalidate it half a season later.

So I think them dealing it is still very plausible. And Giannis would be the best win now option in a vacuum. Fit the timeline. But it seems more likely at this point they are deluding themselves into believing an 18 yr old makes them a contender right now, or they'll split present/future interests.
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Post#233 » by msiris » Fri May 23, 2025 4:48 pm

At this point if Giannis wants out can't let him have any say where he wants to play.
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Post#234 » by raferfenix » Fri May 23, 2025 5:13 pm

Just seeing Jim O's MJS quote seems about as encouraging as we could hope for at this stage:

By the time the NBA Combine ended on May 18, Antetokounmpo had some conversations with organizational leadership about the future of the team and remained happy in Milwaukee with no real intent to leave, and therefore no trade request had been made. In all his years, he has never requested a trade, even though he has regularly applied pressure on the team to keep upgrading to the roster.

Longtime NBA reporter Chris Haynes said Antetokounmpo was going to meet with Horst the week of May 19 for one of their annual offseason conversations about the direction of the team. Other conversations have typically occurred in the summer months.


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Post#235 » by M-C-G » Fri May 23, 2025 5:49 pm

Just a theory, but if Giannis wanted Doc fired and told Horst that this week, I’d also suspect they would wait a few weeks to fire Doc so it doesn’t look like Giannis is a coach killer.
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Post#236 » by Ripster72 » Fri May 23, 2025 6:52 pm

M-C-G wrote:Just a theory, but if Giannis wanted Doc fired and told Horst that this week, I’d also suspect they would wait a few weeks to fire Doc so it doesn’t look like Giannis is a coach killer.


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Post#237 » by Finn » Fri May 23, 2025 8:42 pm

th87 wrote:
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Wow this is a great point too. What if he's ultimately remembered as a Maverick or whatever?

Like Ray Allen the Celtic.

That's not the same. If Giannis won multiple rings with another franchise, it would probably make him more universally revered. He has given us 12 seasons and everything personal or team wise that the game could give. Allen, uniquely, had equivalent levels of success in all 4 places. Some younger fans may only know about him from his Miami days...

Certainly not the exact same thing. But if the media pumps footage of his other championships into his career highlight reel (and they definitely would), then it's likely most people would begin to associate him with that team over time.

Also not the exact same thing, but do people regard KAJ as a Buck or a Laker? Do people even remember he played in Milwaukee?

And in this era with even shorter memories and attention spans?

I can't be the only one here who doesn't give a **** what anyone else thinks regarding Giannis (or anything else for that matter). :dontknow:

I'll remember his time with the Bucks, couldn't care less if no one else does.
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Post#238 » by Ryan5UW » Fri May 23, 2025 9:14 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:I've seen nothing credible either. Lots of random social media b.s. where everyone has a "source".
Well there was the journals article that said he allready told them he doesn't want a trade

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When did Jim O say this? That should have gotten more coverage than Shams “league sources” BS.


Jim did say this on Reddit yesterday:

Not sure why anyone would think he would request a trade/not be back.
There has never been reporting of a conversation and/or desire about him requesting a trade, ever, and despite the misreading of the half baked ESPN thing the day of the lottery, there was never an inclination he would ask for a trade.
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Post#239 » by MickeyDavis » Fri May 23, 2025 11:12 pm

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Post#240 » by th87 » Fri May 23, 2025 11:23 pm

Finn wrote:
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Jez2983 wrote:That's not the same. If Giannis won multiple rings with another franchise, it would probably make him more universally revered. He has given us 12 seasons and everything personal or team wise that the game could give. Allen, uniquely, had equivalent levels of success in all 4 places. Some younger fans may only know about him from his Miami days...

Certainly not the exact same thing. But if the media pumps footage of his other championships into his career highlight reel (and they definitely would), then it's likely most people would begin to associate him with that team over time.

Also not the exact same thing, but do people regard KAJ as a Buck or a Laker? Do people even remember he played in Milwaukee?

And in this era with even shorter memories and attention spans?

I can't be the only one here who doesn't give a **** what anyone else thinks regarding Giannis (or anything else for that matter). :dontknow:

I'll remember his time with the Bucks, couldn't care less if no one else does.


You're probably not the only one. But I'm not as enlightened as you.

I don't want Indiana to win because I don't want Haliburton's insufferable behavior rewarded. I don't like the Vikings because their fans are smug (somehow). It brought me great pleasure to see Boston lose because of all the Massholes I've encountered throughout life. The Cubs breaking their curse sucked because they look down on us.

In sports, I'm as petty as it gets. And so yeah, it will annoy me to no end if some large market tries to claim our superstar - the guy who made NBA basketball relevant in Milwaukee, who brought the entire community together in civic pride, who helped the world know that there exists a city called Milwaukee, and they were at the apex of the basketball world.

I don't want Silver and coastal jerks who look down on us to take that from us. Especially to chase the chance to be mediocre a few years from now.

I can't be the only one to feel this way.

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