Farewell Seasons Draft (00 to now) - Discussion

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Post#21 » by durantbird » Sun May 25, 2025 6:40 pm

Laimbeer wrote:What about players who have an ineligible season in 2025, but have an eligible season in 2024 or another prior season with the same team?

Sorry I didn't understand your question. Try to explain it via example please, not necessarily a real one
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Post#22 » by durantbird » Sun May 25, 2025 6:55 pm

durantbird wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:What about players who have an ineligible season in 2025, but have an eligible season in 2024 or another prior season with the same team?

Sorry I didn't understand your question. Try to explain it via example please, not necessarily a real one

You mean something like this?

2023-24 Played for the Nuggets 82 games
2024-25 Played for the Nuggets 20 games?

In this case 23'-24' isn't considered a farewell season
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Post#23 » by durantbird » Sun May 25, 2025 8:14 pm

Left my first round options to Fade. I'll pick my second round pick tomorrow, as the clock doesn't start earlier
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Post#24 » by Laimbeer » Sun May 25, 2025 9:30 pm

durantbird wrote:
durantbird wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:What about players who have an ineligible season in 2025, but have an eligible season in 2024 or another prior season with the same team?

Sorry I didn't understand your question. Try to explain it via example please, not necessarily a real one

You mean something like this?

2023-24 Played for the Nuggets 82 games
2024-25 Played for the Nuggets 20 games?

In this case 23'-24' isn't considered a farewell season


2023-24 Played for the Nuggets 82 games
2024-25 Played for the Nuggets 0 games

If he didn't play at all in 2025, then is his 2024 a farewell season?
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Re: Farewell Seasons Draft (00 to now) - Discussion 

Post#25 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun May 25, 2025 9:38 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
durantbird wrote:
durantbird wrote:Sorry I didn't understand your question. Try to explain it via example please, not necessarily a real one

You mean something like this?

2023-24 Played for the Nuggets 82 games
2024-25 Played for the Nuggets 20 games?

In this case 23'-24' isn't considered a farewell season


2023-24 Played for the Nuggets 82 games
2024-25 Played for the Nuggets 0 games

If he didn't play at all in 2025, then is his 2024 a farewell season?

Is he still a Nuggets player?
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Post#26 » by Laimbeer » Sun May 25, 2025 9:48 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
durantbird wrote:You mean something like this?

2023-24 Played for the Nuggets 82 games
2024-25 Played for the Nuggets 20 games?

In this case 23'-24' isn't considered a farewell season


2023-24 Played for the Nuggets 82 games
2024-25 Played for the Nuggets 0 games

If he didn't play at all in 2025, then is his 2024 a farewell season?

Is he still a Nuggets player?


Didn't have anyone specific in mind. But do the rules address this specifically? If he were still property of the Nuggets does that mean 2024 isn't a farewell season?

(I'll pick now - sorry was out a lot today)
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Post#27 » by Laimbeer » Sun May 25, 2025 9:51 pm

Stan wrote:I think I get it, I’m in

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Post#28 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun May 25, 2025 9:57 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
2023-24 Played for the Nuggets 82 games
2024-25 Played for the Nuggets 0 games

If he didn't play at all in 2025, then is his 2024 a farewell season?

Is he still a Nuggets player?


Didn't have anyone specific in mind. But do the rules address this specifically? If he were still property of the Nuggets does that mean 2024 isn't a farewell season?

(I'll pick now - sorry was out a lot today)

Maybe it needs to be stated explicitly, but I don't see how you can have a "farewell" season if you haven't actually left the team in question...
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Post#29 » by Larry_Russell » Mon May 26, 2025 12:43 am

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Post#30 » by GeorgeMarcus » Mon May 26, 2025 1:09 am

I'm struggling with how some of these atypical seasons will be judged
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Post#31 » by durantbird » Mon May 26, 2025 4:24 am

Kevin Garnett was one of the trickier cases but I addressed his Minny case specifically as an example in the rules. I'm gonna take KG 07' not 13', as 07' was his last eligible Minny season even though he made a comeback. Just clarifying again because Fade used a Boston jersey photo
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Post#32 » by durantbird » Mon May 26, 2025 4:27 am

Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
2023-24 Played for the Nuggets 82 games
2024-25 Played for the Nuggets 0 games

If he didn't play at all in 2025, then is his 2024 a farewell season?

Is he still a Nuggets player?


Didn't have anyone specific in mind. But do the rules address this specifically? If he were still property of the Nuggets does that mean 2024 isn't a farewell season?

(I'll pick now - sorry was out a lot today)

Some of those cases are indeed tricky because a farewell season is intuitive in theory but hard to define under the context of our rules. Unless there's a specific case in mind you are concerned of, maybe best not to bother ourselves and confuse ourselves further with these theoretical edge cases
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Post#33 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon May 26, 2025 11:21 am

durantbird wrote:Kevin Garnett was one of the trickier cases but I addressed his Minny case specifically as an example in the rules. I'm gonna take KG 07' not 13', as 07' was his last eligible Minny season even though he made a comeback. Just clarifying again because Fade used a Boston jersey photo

I did forget about that.
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Re: Farewell Seasons Draft (00 to now) - Discussion 

Post#34 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon May 26, 2025 11:24 am

durantbird wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Is he still a Nuggets player?


Didn't have anyone specific in mind. But do the rules address this specifically? If he were still property of the Nuggets does that mean 2024 isn't a farewell season?

(I'll pick now - sorry was out a lot today)

Some of those cases are indeed tricky because a farewell season is intuitive in theory but hard to define under the context of our rules. Unless there's a specific case in mind you are concerned of, maybe best not to bother ourselves and confuse ourselves further with these theoretical edge cases

I would say that we can comfortably eliminate seasons where the player has still not left the team in question. That's a fairly simple addendum to make to the existing rules. Nobody should even be considering such a player unless they're trying to get cute with the rules.
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Post#35 » by durantbird » Mon May 26, 2025 12:06 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
durantbird wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Didn't have anyone specific in mind. But do the rules address this specifically? If he were still property of the Nuggets does that mean 2024 isn't a farewell season?

(I'll pick now - sorry was out a lot today)

Some of those cases are indeed tricky because a farewell season is intuitive in theory but hard to define under the context of our rules. Unless there's a specific case in mind you are concerned of, maybe best not to bother ourselves and confuse ourselves further with these theoretical edge cases

I would say that we can comfortably eliminate seasons where the player has still not left the team in question. That's a fairly simple addendum to make to the existing rules. Nobody should even be considering such a player unless they're trying to get cute with the rules.

Agree.

I'd say there are still some confusing cases. Just thought about Brandon Ingram. Technically he left the Pelicans but haven't played yet for the Raptors. I'd say he isn't eligible yet to be picked for the Pelicans, but really borderline case.

Not sure if in practice, we'll actually see a case where someone wants to draft a guy, and his situation isn't explicitly addressed in the rules currently.
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Post#36 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon May 26, 2025 3:06 pm

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Post#37 » by Laimbeer » Mon May 26, 2025 3:14 pm

Kevin, Garnett and Shaq is terrifying

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Post#38 » by Larry_Russell » Mon May 26, 2025 5:05 pm

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Post#39 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon May 26, 2025 7:33 pm

Laimbeer wrote:Kevin, Garnett and Shaq is terrifying

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Post#40 » by durantbird » Mon May 26, 2025 9:11 pm

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