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[Bernman]

You guys overrate Haslam's influence. He owns 25% of the team, doesn't go to games and is busy with the Browns and his MLS team. Edens runs the show.

Yeah, I think Haslam is just writing checks for much of this. I'd rank them this way in terms of power:

Edens
Giannis
Haslam
Fascitelli
Dimon

What I wonder is where Junior's 10% of shares will go.

It's Jamie Dinan, not Jamie Dimon, thankfully (I think).

Dinan owns 25%, so as much as Edens & Haslam. And the original dynamic was reportedly whoever of Edens or Lasry had Dinan's ear had the control. And that was Lasry back then.

So Haslam could still do that & be #1. Edens has the longer relationship w/ Dinan, but seemingly wasn't winning out before with him. And if Haslam is agreeing to write checks others are reluctant to, that would explain he holds the power if he's inclined. He copped to doing it on the Watson move.

[paulpressey25]

Dinan owns 25%, so as much as Edens & Haslam. And the original dynamic was reportedly whoever of Edens or Lasry had Dinan's ear had the control. And that was Lasry back then.

So Haslam could still do that & be #1. Edens has the longer relationship w/ Dinan, but seemingly wasn't winning out before with him. And if Haslam is agreeing to write checks others are reluctant to, that would explain he holds the power if he's inclined. He copped to doing it on the Watson move.

Plausible. But I just don't see him as the problem here. This mess is a group failure, and I'll add Giannis and Horst to the group.

I'm not a fan of Doc, but we were heading off the cliff before Doc was hired. Doc just added another foot to the accelerator.

[JonHeist]

You guys overrate Haslam's influence. He owns 25% of the team, doesn't go to games and is busy with the Browns and his MLS team. Edens runs the show.

Yeah, I think Haslam is just writing checks for much of this. I'd rank them this way in terms of power:

Edens
Giannis
Haslam
Fascitelli
Dimon

What I wonder is where Junior's 10% of shares will go.

It's Jamie Dinan, not Jamie Dimon, thankfully (I think).

Dinan owns 25%, so as much as Edens & Haslam. And the original dynamic was reportedly whoever of Edens or Lasry had Dinan's ear had the control. And that was Lasry back then.

So Haslam could still do that & be #1. Edens has the longer relationship w/ Dinan, but seemingly wasn't winning out before with him. And if Haslam is agreeing to write checks others are reluctant to, that would explain he holds the power if he's inclined. He copped to doing it on the Watson move.

I wish we were owned by Jamie Dimon, now that'd be a smart owner

[raferfenix]

NBA insider Marc Stein reported on his “The Stein Line” Substack newsletter on Monday.

There were no apparent breakthrough developments last week for the many factions around the league hoping for a firm indication about Giannis Antetokounmpo’s future in Milwaukee.

Antetokounmpo himself has been very active on Twitter in terms of answering fans’ questions over the past several days, but he has not formally pushed to be traded away from the only NBA team he has ever known in the wake of Milwaukee’s third successive first-round exit.

Not yet.

It remains unclear, furthermore, if he ultimately will or he won’t.

Antetokounmpo is the biggest domino waiting to fall in the NBA offseason.

Pivotal Meeting

NBA insider Chris Haynes reported on the pivotal meeting between Antetokounmpo and the Bucks.

“There’s a lot going on with the Bucks this offseason. Knowing Giannis personally, one of the toughest competitors we have in this league. A guy who has great ambition. He wants multiple championships. That’s all he wants to do. To be put in a position where he can play alongside a team that has a chance to fight for a title. This is going to be a very, very crucial meeting next week,” Haynes said.

It turns out Antetokounmpo remains undecided on what to do next with his career.

https://heavy.com/sports/nba/milwaukee-bucks/no-trade-request-yet/

[Bernman]

Yeah, I think Haslam is just writing checks for much of this. I'd rank them this way in terms of power:

Edens
Giannis
Haslam
Fascitelli
Dimon

What I wonder is where Junior's 10% of shares will go.

It's Jamie Dinan, not Jamie Dimon, thankfully (I think).

Dinan owns 25%, so as much as Edens & Haslam. And the original dynamic was reportedly whoever of Edens or Lasry had Dinan's ear had the control. And that was Lasry back then.

So Haslam could still do that & be #1. Edens has the longer relationship w/ Dinan, but seemingly wasn't winning out before with him. And if Haslam is agreeing to write checks others are reluctant to, that would explain he holds the power if he's inclined. He copped to doing it on the Watson move.

I wish we were own'ed by Jamie Dimon, now that'd be a smart owner

He'd certainly have a lot of schemes. I doubt that the other 29 wealthy owners would allow him to get away w/ them the same though. Look at ours on the attempted Bogdanovic trade. Maybe he'd make an even "smarter" arena deal. Don't know how that'd help us as fans/citizens though.

[BigO]

I'm tuning out most of next season if Doc remains coach. Straight up organizational malpractice.

Without the Prez leading the Fire Doc charge, I'd be lost. Thank you.

[BigO]

Yeah, I think Haslam is just writing checks for much of this. I'd rank them this way in terms of power:

Edens
Giannis
Haslam
Fascitelli
Dimon

What I wonder is where Junior's 10% of shares will go.

It's Jamie Dinan, not Jamie Dimon, thankfully (I think).

Dinan owns 25%, so as much as Edens & Haslam. And the original dynamic was reportedly whoever of Edens or Lasry had Dinan's ear had the control. And that was Lasry back then.

So Haslam could still do that & be #1. Edens has the longer relationship w/ Dinan, but seemingly wasn't winning out before with him. And if Haslam is agreeing to write checks others are reluctant to, that would explain he holds the power if he's inclined. He copped to doing it on the Watson move.

I wish we were own'ed by Jamie Dimon, now that'd be a smart owner

Doubtful. Most of these guys are smart moving chess pieces in finance,but it seldom translates to having sports acumen.

What skillset do they have in knowing who the best President, GM, coach or staff are? A few turn out to be good, but most think too highly of themselves to have enough humility to know different.

[M-C-G]

Bucks hoping Doc gives them an edge in Giannis staying sounds like a Saturday Night Live punchline. Unbelievable

[ReasonablySober]

Given what we know about Giannis and coaches I can't really say I'm surprised.

[ShootingtheJ]

Given what we know about Giannis and coaches I can't really say I'm surprised.

When was he ever exposed to a great coach?

[ReasonablySober]

Given what we know about Giannis and coaches I can't really say I'm surprised.

When was he ever exposed to a great coach?

Bud was great for a while.

[ShootingtheJ]

Given what we know about Giannis and coaches I can't really say I'm surprised.

When was he ever exposed to a great coach?

Bud was great for a while.

Agree, but still incredibly rigid.

[fansinceforever]

If Giannis is legitimately considering leaving then pitching him on the idea of punting his age 31 season "so he can go after accolades" is some of dumbest planning I can imagine.

[Licensed to Il]

If Giannis is legitimately considering leaving then pitching him on the idea of punting his age 31 season "so he can go after accolades" is some of dumbest planning I can imagine.

What else do they have to pitch?

[ReasonablySober]

If Giannis is legitimately considering leaving then pitching him on the idea of punting his age 31 season "so he can go after accolades" is some of dumbest planning I can imagine.

What is your alternative?

[blazza18]

Coach Giannis

[fansinceforever]

If Giannis is legitimately considering leaving then pitching him on the idea of punting his age 31 season "so he can go after accolades" is some of dumbest planning I can imagine.

What is your alternative?

My alternative? I don't have one. I've been hammering home the point that this team is **** for a year now.

But if your stance is that Giannis is better off staying here and that the Bucks are better off with him on the roster, you need to have something better than that.

If they legitimately can't communicate a path to him other than "give us a year"... That's pathetic and he should leave. How much more explicit can you be that you do not value his remaining time and that you're not serious?

[jakecronus8]

If Giannis thinks doc is the guy then it’s done anyways.

[ReasonablySober]

If Giannis is legitimately considering leaving then pitching him on the idea of punting his age 31 season "so he can go after accolades" is some of dumbest planning I can imagine.

What is your alternative?

My alternative? I don't have one. I've been hammering home the point that this team is **** for a year now.

But if your stance is that Giannis is better off staying here and that the Bucks are better off with him on the roster, you need to have something better than that.

If they legitimately can't communicate a path to him other than "give us a year"... That's pathetic and he should leave. How much more explicit can you be that you do not value his remaining time and that you're not serious?

It's been said before, but most of the all-time greats went through down years. Kobe Bryant had a stretch where the Lackers won 34, 45, and 42 games in the middle of his prime.

Giannis can stay and endure a couple down seasons, or he can ask out. But there's no pitch where Horst sells a contender. That won't happen.

[fansinceforever]

What is your alternative?

My alternative? I don't have one. I've been hammering home the point that this team is **** for a year now.

But if your stance is that Giannis is better off staying here and that the Bucks are better off with him on the roster, you need to have something better than that.

If they legitimately can't communicate a path to him other than "give us a year"... That's pathetic and he should leave. How much more explicit can you be that you do not value his remaining time and that you're not serious?

It's been said before, but most of the all-time greats went through down years. Kobe Bryant had a stretch where the Lackers won 34, 45, and 42 games in the middle of his prime.

Giannis can stay and endure a couple down seasons, or he can ask out. But there's no pitch where Horst sells a contender. That won't happen.

Not really the same. If we had an Andrew Bynum level talent on the way, then it's an easier sell. It's also an easier sell if you're in Los Angeles. Golden State had picks and was waiting for Klau to get healthy.

Presumably they're already in discussions with their potential FA. The same guys that once they finally landed on playing gave the Pacers everything they could handle.

Obviously, it's a very tough sell but leading with "give us a year and maybe then we can get out of our own way" sounds unacceptable to me at least.