PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance

iLLSonChandla · Post #601 » by **iLLSonChandla** » Wed May 28, 2025 1:49 pm

Things changed after giving OG all that money

Wildcat · Post #602 » by **Wildcat** » Wed May 28, 2025 1:50 pm

8516knicks wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
You missed a Thibs masterclass

Not to beat a dead horse but I said since the off season that with the moves we made we were going to be significantly worse on defense than last year. Knicks have some tough decisions to make this summer if they want to go forward with this core or change things up so we can be more balanced on both ends.

Remember there was that guy Ryan Dunn a 6'8" defensive "menace" we could have drafted (and thus had cheap) instead of Dadiet who just collected splinters all year. He'd have been perfect to sick on Hali.

I have no faith that Thibs would have played him, anyway.

Wildcat · Post #603 » by **Wildcat** » Wed May 28, 2025 1:51 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Guano wrote:
rajajackal wrote:

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Thanks

I hate it

did we try to press him once or make him uncomfortable bringing the ball up. We have a few guys that can pick that guy up full court...get into him.

They do it to brunson why can't we?

Not apart of Thibs' scheme.

CharlesOakley · Post #604 » by **CharlesOakley** » Wed May 28, 2025 1:51 pm

The only disappointment for me will be if Thibs returns next year. We need a real coach to see what we actually have and I don't want to spend another year playing iso-Jalen with a short rotation.

8516knicks · Post #605 » by **8516knicks** » Wed May 28, 2025 1:53 pm

Ryan Dunn and Bradley Beal for MIkal and Kolek works in the trade machine IF Beal wants to come to New York. Lots of questions about Beal BUT he has shot over 38% from 3 in Phoenix (2yrs) and used to be able to get his own shot. He may suck on D but Dunn could be the answer for us there for a long time? Maybe they'd throw in 7' Ighodoro?

3toheadmelo · Post #606 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed May 28, 2025 1:56 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
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Should've traded for him when the Kings bizarrely made him available.

Imagine how insufferable to the rest of the league he would be if he were a Knick.

That’s probably one of the worst trades I’ve ever seen

HEZI · Post #607 » by **HEZI** » Wed May 28, 2025 1:57 pm

Fury wrote:
sol537 wrote:Brunson is injured… can’t defend right now.

Our only hope is to throw Deuce and Wright onto Hali to slow him down because he absolutely destroyed us.

Deuce, for some reason, only plays like 15 minutes a game.

Wright, for some reason, didn't get in the second half until the second set of substitutions.

We have players to make things work. Thibs isn't maximizing what we have.

Deuce is averaging 20 mpg in the series. What did he do in those 15 minutes that earned him more playing time yesterday? He was awful. And there is no excuse for it when Indiana had a guy drop 20 points in 12 minutes. Deuce is averaging 20 minutes per game, 6 ppg on awful shooting numbers. The rest of Indianas bench didn’t play too many minutes either. TJ played like 19 and Obi played like 18 and the guy who killed us with 20 only played 12. Maybe Deuce could have been better in the time he did play and no shoot poorly again like he has been.

Fury · Post #608 » by **Fury** » Wed May 28, 2025 1:59 pm

HEZI wrote:
Fury wrote:
sol537 wrote:Brunson is injured… can’t defend right now.

Our only hope is to throw Deuce and Wright onto Hali to slow him down because he absolutely destroyed us.

Deuce, for some reason, only plays like 15 minutes a game.

Wright, for some reason, didn't get in the second half until the second set of substitutions.

We have players to make things work. Thibs isn't maximizing what we have.

Deuce is averaging 20 mpg in the series. What did he do in those 15 minutes that earned him more playing time yesterday? He was awful. And there is no excuse for it when Indiana had a guy drop 20 points in 12 minutes. Deuce is averaging 20 minutes per game, 6 ppg on awful shooting numbers.

I get it. You hate Deuce. But the fact remains, he's in most of our net positive lineups.

Fury · Post #609 » by **Fury** » Wed May 28, 2025 2:00 pm

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HEZI · Post #610 » by **HEZI** » Wed May 28, 2025 2:02 pm

Fury wrote:
HEZI wrote:
Fury wrote:
Deuce, for some reason, only plays like 15 minutes a game.

Wright, for some reason, didn't get in the second half until the second set of substitutions.

We have players to make things work. Thibs isn't maximizing what we have.

Deuce is averaging 20 mpg in the series. What did he do in those 15 minutes that earned him more playing time yesterday? He was awful. And there is no excuse for it when Indiana had a guy drop 20 points in 12 minutes. Deuce is averaging 20 minutes per game, 6 ppg on awful shooting numbers.

I get it. You hate Deuce. But the fact remains, he's in most of our net positive lineups.

I don’t hate Deuce but there is no question he’s regressed and has played like garbage. He was garbage yesterday and we starting making our comeback when he went to the bench. We should have played our regular starters from the beginning and no matter what the net rating say that’s still our best lineup. We didn’t need more minutes for Deuce. Deuce should have been better when he was in there.

Fury · Post #611 » by **Fury** » Wed May 28, 2025 2:03 pm

HEZI wrote:
Fury wrote:
HEZI wrote:
Deuce is averaging 20 mpg in the series. What did he do in those 15 minutes that earned him more playing time yesterday? He was awful. And there is no excuse for it when Indiana had a guy drop 20 points in 12 minutes. Deuce is averaging 20 minutes per game, 6 ppg on awful shooting numbers.

I get it. You hate Deuce. But the fact remains, he's in most of our net positive lineups.

I don’t hate Deuce but there is no question he’s regressed and has played like garbage. He was garbage yesterday and we starting making our comeback when he went to the bench. We should have played our regular starters from the beginning and no matter what the net rating say that’s still our best lineup. We didn’t need more minutes for Deuce. Deuce should have been better when he was in there.

Deuce is a good defender and covers for bad defenders on the team. It's not just about the shooting numbers. Even if he played like garbage yesterday or they made a comeback when he went to the bench, you wouldn't give him credit even if he's part of a comeback so there's no sense in discussing this with you.

sol537 · Post #612 » by **sol537** » Wed May 28, 2025 2:04 pm

The pain of this ECF will be over soon….

MrDollarBills · Post #613 » by **MrDollarBills** » Wed May 28, 2025 2:12 pm

22 to 2 Indiana on Fastbreak points.

HEZI · Post #614 » by **HEZI** » Wed May 28, 2025 2:12 pm

Fury wrote:
HEZI wrote:
Fury wrote:
I get it. You hate Deuce. But the fact remains, he's in most of our net positive lineups.

I don’t hate Deuce but there is no question he’s regressed and has played like garbage. He was garbage yesterday and we starting making our comeback when he went to the bench. We should have played our regular starters from the beginning and no matter what the net rating say that’s still our best lineup. We didn’t need more minutes for Deuce. Deuce should have been better when he was in there.

Deuce is a good defender and covers for bad defenders on the team. It's not just about the shooting numbers. Even if he played like garbage yesterday or they made a comeback when he went to the bench, you wouldn't give him credit even if he's part of a comeback so there's no sense in discussing this with you.

TJ was taking him to the basket and scoring on him with ease. He wasn’t even playing good defense. I wouldn’t ignore his production if he was playing well but he’s been crap so I’m just going to call it for what it is

Chanel Bomber · Post #615 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Wed May 28, 2025 2:15 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
rajajackal wrote:

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Should've traded for him when the Kings bizarrely made him available.

Imagine how insufferable to the rest of the league he would be if he were a Knick.

That’s probably one of the worst trades I’ve ever seen

Imagine trading Haliburton for Sabonis to build around De'Aaron Fox :lol:

Being a Knicks fan is hard but being a Kings fan has to be worse now.

Post #616 » by **dakomish23** » Wed May 28, 2025 2:16 pm

Siakam
25.8 PPG 4.8 RPG 3.3 APG 1.0 SPG 0.3 BPG 0.5 TOV
54.1% on 18.5 FGA
50.0% on 3.0 3PA
70.8% on 6.0 FTA

OG
17.5 PPG 3.5 RPG 1.5 APG 2.3 SPG 2.0 BPG 1.5 TOV
49.0% on 12.8 FGA
33.3% on 6.8 3PA
64.7% on 4.3 FTA

OG has been ok, but he is being thoroughly outplayed by Siakam this series

Chanel Bomber · Post #617 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Wed May 28, 2025 2:17 pm

Fury wrote:

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I mentioned it the other day, changing the starting lineup achieves very little if the minutes distribution remains the same.

Iron Mantis · Post #618 » by **Iron Mantis** » Wed May 28, 2025 2:17 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:22 to 2 Indiana on Fastbreak points.

Wow that is absolutely disgusting

snadler · Post #619 » by **snadler** » Wed May 28, 2025 2:17 pm

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Simple breakdown but 100% accurate, not about coaching

G_K_F · Post #620 » by **G_K_F** » Wed May 28, 2025 2:21 pm

The Boston series might have ended up being a huge curse for us.

Thibodeau will never be fired now for reaching the ECF for the first time in 25 years.

I just hope this team makes major moves this summer. I know they’re limited with their assets but we need to do something. Bringing back Towns as your second best player is not a recipe for success. Beginning back Bridges in any capacity is not a recipe for success. Bringing back OG at $40 million is not a recipe for success.

Why can’t we be like the Pacers and find guys like Nesmith who give you the same production as OG at a fraction of the price? Why can’t we build a roster of gritty, smart, hard-working players?

Everyone should be on the table besides Brunson. Everyone. There is no untouchables.