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Re: Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#21 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed May 28, 2025 11:48 am

babyjax13 wrote:I think New Orleans would be open to trading the 2026 IND 1st, especially if it could help them get off a year or two of Murray's contract.


Indy would love to get that 1st back, and probably willing to pay their 23 this year to do so. If that would help NO in any such discussions….
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Re: Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#22 » by SkyHook » Wed May 28, 2025 12:04 pm

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babyjax13 wrote:I think New Orleans would be open to trading the 2026 IND 1st, especially if it could help them get off a year or two of Murray's contract.


Indy would love to get that 1st back, and probably willing to pay their 23 this year to do so. If that would help NO in any such discussions….


I'd offer this year's 21 for it. :wink:
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Re: Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#23 » by DNP-Old » Wed May 28, 2025 1:23 pm

I wont be surprised if Houston trades #10. I wont be surprised if OKC trades out of the draft all together. I will be surprised if the BRK doesn't trade 2 of their 4 firsts, and wont be surprised if they trade 3 of their 5 picks. I can also see Orlando trading #25.
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Re: Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#24 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Wed May 28, 2025 1:34 pm

DNP-Old wrote:I wont be surprised if Houston trades #10. I wont be surprised if OKC trades out of the draft all together. I will be surprised if the BRK doesn't trade 2 of their 4 firsts, and wont be surprised if they trade 3 of their 5 picks. I can also see Orlando trading #25.

Orlando will definitely trade 16 or 25, will depend on what guard they get via trade to determine which pick goes.
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Re: Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#25 » by Kiss of Death » Wed May 28, 2025 2:04 pm

Houston will definitely be interested in trading #10.

I would think that they are likely looking to get back multiple later picks, 2025 and future.

The Nets are actively looking to add another 2025 lottery pick and they have a surplus of picks, so that seems the most likely outcome for me (if the Nets strike out on moving up in the draft).
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Re: Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#26 » by Dadouv47 » Wed May 28, 2025 3:04 pm

DNP-Old wrote:I wont be surprised if Houston trades #10. I wont be surprised if OKC trades out of the draft all together. I will be surprised if the BRK doesn't trade 2 of their 4 firsts, and wont be surprised if they trade 3 of their 5 picks. I can also see Orlando trading #25.


I would be very surprised if OKC doesn't keep a pick (we certainly are trading one of #15 or #24). We have some guys to pay and want decent players under rookie contract so we can manage to keep our core so the only solution is to keep drafting well.
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Re: Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#27 » by German Athens » Wed May 28, 2025 3:40 pm

Bucks give unprotected ‘31 1st, unprotected ‘26 swap, and Pat Connaughton for #15, #24, and Joe.
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Re: Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#28 » by ReggiesKnicks » Wed May 28, 2025 3:41 pm

German Athens wrote:Bucks give unprotected ‘31 1st, unprotected ‘26 swap, and Pat Connaughton for #15, #24, and Joe.


Big overpay by OKC here.
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Re: Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#29 » by German Athens » Wed May 28, 2025 3:47 pm

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German Athens wrote:Bucks give unprotected ‘31 1st, unprotected ‘26 swap, and Pat Connaughton for #15, #24, and Joe.


Big overpay by OKC here.


Is it?

Minny traded a ‘31 1st and ‘30 swap (top 1 protected) for #8 last year.

Recently #15 + #20 got the spurs to #10.

So, it would seem like OKC owes value beyond the picks moving, and that’s where Joe for Pat gets lumped in. Joe is a good player, but is also the 9th man and getting paid pretty well.

Okc will almost assuredly be a 2nd apron team in ‘27 if they plan to keep Dort and Hartenstein. Considering those are starters for them, I’d think they’d want to keep them. Getting off of Joe would keep them under that 2nd apron.

This all may be a year too early for them, though.
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Re: Edit: OKC at 15 -- Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#30 » by NYG » Thu May 29, 2025 12:58 am

Edited to be more specific
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Re: Edit: OKC at 15 -- Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#31 » by aguiar95 » Thu May 29, 2025 1:43 am

NYG wrote:Would anyone trade future pick(s) for a '25 1st? If so what picks are available and what are they worth?

Edit...

Top 14 picks are...

Cooper Flagg
Dylan Harper
Ace Bailey
V.J. Edgecombe
Kon Knueppel
Tre Johnson
Jeremiah Fears
Khaman Maluach
Derik Queen
Kasparas Jakucionis
Egor Denim
Noa Essengue
Collin Murray-Boyles
Carter Bryant

OKC is shopping 15th Overall for future 1sts... what's your offer?


Given that my BPAs would be centers in Sorber/Beringer, I think NOP could roll the dice (assuming they didn't draft a center at #7) by trading the '26 IND 1st (top-4 protected).
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Re: Edit: OKC at 15 -- Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#32 » by NYG » Thu May 29, 2025 2:16 am

https://tankathon.com/power_rankings

Using that to see who could use picks...

'27 Spurs Unprotected 1st and '31 T'Wolves Unprotected 1st (via Kings) = Which 2025 1st?
'31 Bucks Unprotected 1st = Which 2025 1st?
'31 Lakers Unprotected 1st = Which 2025 1st?
'31 Cavs Unprotected 1st = Which 2025 1st?
'26 Pistons Unprotected 1st = Which 2025 1st?
'26 Warriors Unprotected 1st = Which 2025 1st?
'26 Grizzlies Unprotected 1st = Which 2025 1st?


Also just curious... how far would 8, 19 and '26 Unprotected Nets 1st get Brooklyn?

As a reference... in last year's weaker draft (https://www.nba.com/news/timberwolves-spurs-trade-rob-dillingham-2024-nba-draft)

Spurs get:
2031 first-round pick (unprotected)
2030 pick swap (top 1 protected)

Timberwolves get:
Rob Dillingham (8th overall pick)
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Re: Edit: OKC at 15 -- Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#33 » by NYG » Thu May 29, 2025 7:22 am

aguiar95 wrote:
NYG wrote:Would anyone trade future pick(s) for a '25 1st? If so what picks are available and what are they worth?

Edit...

Top 14 picks are...

Cooper Flagg
Dylan Harper
Ace Bailey
V.J. Edgecombe
Kon Knueppel
Tre Johnson
Jeremiah Fears
Khaman Maluach
Derik Queen
Kasparas Jakucionis
Egor Denim
Noa Essengue
Collin Murray-Boyles
Carter Bryant

OKC is shopping 15th Overall for future 1sts... what's your offer?


Given that my BPAs would be centers in Sorber/Beringer, I think NOP could roll the dice (assuming they didn't draft a center at #7) by trading the '26 IND 1st (top-4 protected).


'31 Lakers UNP 1st for 15th Overall?
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Re: Edit: OKC at 15 -- Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#34 » by bbms » Thu May 29, 2025 10:40 am

i'm trading up for murray-boyles.

too outstanding of a fit. he's like a lost twin brother of cason wallace on the size of draymond green and positional versatility of jdub.

put that beefy boy next to chet
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Re: Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#35 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu May 29, 2025 12:27 pm

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babyjax13 wrote:I think New Orleans would be open to trading the 2026 IND 1st, especially if it could help them get off a year or two of Murray's contract.


Indy would love to get that 1st back, and probably willing to pay their 23 this year to do so. If that would help NO in any such discussions….


I'd offer this year's 21 for it. :wink:



Ok. If Orlando is willing to give up a higher pick for a protected future 1st that is likely to be a bit later than what they’re giving up, Indy can’t negotiate with that. Indy would just be looking to clear their Stepien rules and would be the only team that could treat that protected pick as “unprotected” since they already own the protected region.
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Re: Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#36 » by DNP-Old » Thu May 29, 2025 1:34 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
DNP-Old wrote:I wont be surprised if Houston trades #10. I wont be surprised if OKC trades out of the draft all together. I will be surprised if the BRK doesn't trade 2 of their 4 firsts, and wont be surprised if they trade 3 of their 5 picks. I can also see Orlando trading #25.


I would be very surprised if OKC doesn't keep a pick (we certainly are trading one of #15 or #24). We have some guys to pay and want decent players under rookie contract so we can manage to keep our core so the only solution is to keep drafting well.


Who, from this year's team, do you anticipate them moving on from to make room for the draftee(s)?
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Re: Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#37 » by Dadouv47 » Thu May 29, 2025 1:38 pm

DNP-Old wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
DNP-Old wrote:I wont be surprised if Houston trades #10. I wont be surprised if OKC trades out of the draft all together. I will be surprised if the BRK doesn't trade 2 of their 4 firsts, and wont be surprised if they trade 3 of their 5 picks. I can also see Orlando trading #25.


I would be very surprised if OKC doesn't keep a pick (we certainly are trading one of #15 or #24). We have some guys to pay and want decent players under rookie contract so we can manage to keep our core so the only solution is to keep drafting well.


Who, from this year's team, do you anticipate them moving on from to make room for the draftee(s)?


Dieng is gone IMO. Even if Presti overrates the guys he loves it makes no sense to keep developing him since he's gonna enter the last year of his rookie contract.

Dilon Jones might get moved but I think he will likely stay.

I would trade Isaiah Joe for a small improvement but I'm not sure Presti is gonna pull the trigger.

So yeah I would bet with one open roster spot with Dieng gone.
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Re: Edit: OKC at 15 -- Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#38 » by aguiar95 » Thu May 29, 2025 2:29 pm

NYG wrote:
aguiar95 wrote:
Given that my BPAs would be centers in Sorber/Beringer, I think NOP could roll the dice (assuming they didn't draft a center at #7) by trading the '26 IND 1st (top-4 protected).


'31 Lakers UNP 1st for 15th Overall?


LAL needs immediate help (or at least in the Luka timeline). Sorber/Beringer will take more time.
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Re: Edit: OKC at 15 -- Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#39 » by ChettheJet » Thu May 29, 2025 3:54 pm

Here's where the Bulls find a Nikola Viuevic trade. OKC gets a trade rolling but the team wants better then #15, The Bulls trade the expiring Vucevic to that team with #12 and drop down to #15, take back some young sort of disappointing kid with remaining potential and some young veteran that doesn't fit in anymore The rest is OKC getting a future pick from the other team
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Re: Edit: OKC at 15 -- Which Future First Rounders Are Available On Draft Night? 

Post#40 » by bbms » Thu May 29, 2025 4:22 pm

ChettheJet wrote:Here's where the Bulls find a Nikola Viuevic trade. OKC gets a trade rolling but the team wants better then #15, The Bulls trade the expiring Vucevic to that team with #12 and drop down to #15, take back some young sort of disappointing kid with remaining potential and some young veteran that doesn't fit in anymore The rest is OKC getting a future pick from the other team

vucevic + 12th for dort + jaylin williams.

who says no?

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