Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[drsd]

Can we upgrade KCP to Trey Murphy

However he ll be expensive

KCP+ Jett+ 16 + 2027 FRP + 2028 FRP + few SRP

I love, love, LOVE this trade for Orlando.

Then Cole+ 25 for sexton if he agrees to extend for less than 90M / 4 yrs

Solid backup upgrade. Especcialy as it is easy to project Sexton and Black playing well off each other from the bench.

Draft Lanier or brea using our SRP

Here' is where we differ. For me the Magic MUST get a competent backup SF. There will be loads available on the MLE market, with the Magic simply letting Harris' and Houston's salaries expire: use this salaries for the "Kennard" type signing.

Suggs/Sexton/Joseph
Murphy/Black/some-LLE-dude
F-Wagner/some-MLE-dude/da Silva
Banchero/Isaac
Carter/M-Wagner/Bitadze


Look at Indiana this season, Orlando could be an Eastern Finalist with that roster. I mean that.

[cedric76]

Can we upgrade KCP to Trey Murphy

However he ll be expensive

KCP+ Jett+ 16 + 2027 FRP + 2028 FRP + few SRP

I love, love, LOVE this trade for Orlando.

Then Cole+ 25 for sexton if he agrees to extend for less than 90M / 4 yrs

Solid backup upgrade. Especcialy as it is easy to project Sexton and Black playing well off each other from the bench.

Draft Lanier or brea using our SRP

Here' is where we differ. For me the Magic MUST get a competent backup SF. There will be loads available on the MLE market, with the Magic simply letting Harris' and Houston's salaries expire: use this salaries for the "Kennard" type signing.




Look at Indiana this season, Orlando could be an Eastern Finalist with that roster. I mean that.

For the back up SF , 2 Options:

1st option:

Trey and TDS share the SF back up

2nd option

Trade goga for Royce O'Neil

Suggs/Sexton/Joseph
Murphy/Black/Lanier or brea
F-Wagner/O'Neil/da Silva
Banchero/Isaac/O'Neil
Carter/M-Wagner/ji/Fa vet big

[dsg2021]

Trey Murphy is that good, I agree. But I also wonder like pepe how he'd be available.

[cedric76]

Trey Murphy is that good, I agree. But I also wonder like pepe how he'd be available.

I agree with the availability risk, but those skills and t that contract r hard to pass on

[Skybox]

Trey Murphy is that good, I agree. But I also wonder like pepe how he'd be available.

I agree with the availability risk, but those skills and t that contract r hard to pass on

I think Herb Jones would be a more realistic target as Murphy has emerged as a 20ppg scorer and is a similar, but better Herb (and gets paid a lot more). Depending on who NOLA drafts, they could consider Herb expendable...I think they're committed to Murphy as a core piece.

I'd be very happy with a CJ McCollum, Herb Jones, Kelly Olynyk or Yves Missi deal depending on who they draft. I've proposed a few where NOLA ultimately fields a starting backcourt of Dejounte Murray and KCP...which would be no fun to face.

[pepe1991]

Trey Murphy is that good, I agree. But I also wonder like pepe how he'd be available.

I agree with the availability risk, but those skills and t that contract r hard to pass on

I think Herb Jones would be a more realistic target as Murphy has emerged as a 20ppg scorer and is a similar, but better Herb (and gets paid a lot more). Depending on who NOLA drafts, they could consider Herb expendable...I think they're committed to Murphy as a core piece.

I'd be very happy with a CJ McCollum, Herb Jones, Kelly Olynyk or Yves Missi deal depending on who they draft. I've proposed a few where NOLA ultimately fields a starting backcourt of Dejounte Murray and KCP...which would be no fun to face.

Thing is, Pelicans don't really need to do anything.

In next 3 drafts they have:

7th pick in 2025

Unprotected pick swap with Bucks in 2026
Pacers top 4 protected 2026 pick

Right to get best pick between Bucks and Hawks in 2027


They hold and own all of their own picks.

Their salary cap is okey. Probably will get rid of McCullum and would like to get rid of Murray but he is going nowhere any time soon.


If they decide to make changes, due all the drama, injuries and off and on court stuff, ZIon will be first to go.

From their POV, you simply don't trade out all star Ingram to give Murphy more PT, just to dump him for some picks and over a hill shooting guard and lottery bust on position they don't need.
They have more than enough picks. Their conversation about Murphy starts with Franz. Ends in moment you move him out of conversation.


Herb is okey. They could trade him for right offer, but he really does not solve anything for us.

[Skybox]

I agree with the availability risk, but those skills and t that contract r hard to pass on

I think Herb Jones would be a more realistic target as Murphy has emerged as a 20ppg scorer and is a similar, but better Herb (and gets paid a lot more). Depending on who NOLA drafts, they could consider Herb expendable...I think they're committed to Murphy as a core piece.

I'd be very happy with a CJ McCollum, Herb Jones, Kelly Olynyk or Yves Missi deal depending on who they draft. I've proposed a few where NOLA ultimately fields a starting backcourt of Dejounte Murray and KCP...which would be no fun to face.

Thing is, Pelicans don't really need to do anything.

In next 3 drafts they have:

7th pick in 2025

Unprotected pick swap with Bucks in 2026
Pacers top 4 protected 2026 pick

Right to get best pick between Bucks and Hawks in 2027


They hold and own all of their own picks.

Their salary cap is okey. Probably will get rid of McCullum and would like to get rid of Murray but he is going nowhere any time soon.


If they decide to make changes, due all the drama, injuries and off and on court stuff, ZIon will be first to go.

From their POV, you simply don't trade out all star Ingram to give Murphy more PT, just to dump him for some picks and over a hill shooting guard and lottery bust on position they don't need.
They have more than enough picks. Their conversation about Murphy starts with Franz. Ends in moment you move him out of conversation.


Herb is okey. They could trade him for right offer, but he really does not solve anything for us.

Herb is inexpensive enough to be a REALLY solid guy off the bench and big enough to backup multiple positions...Murphy is too good and too expensive for that role - if NOLA even picked up the phone.

[Skybox]

NOLA drafts Maluach at #7...decide to stabilize next season, develop Maluach, get Dejounte & Zion healthy and try for a big push the following year.

ORL sends: KCP, Cole Anthony, WCJ, #25
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones, Yves Missi
Why NOLA...WCJ is still young and presents a very versatile big that can play next to Maluach or at C with Zion, Olynyk, or Murphy alongside at PF, for various looks and matchups. KCP & DJM present a long, fierce defensive backcourt with more than adequate scoring, particularly when combined with Zion at Point Forward and Murphy (who are both able to consistently put up 20ppg). Maluach is a much bigger version of Missi - but they don't need 2 of that "type". Cole can run point while Dejounte is getting his feet under him and expires at the end of the season - if he doesn't earn the scoring guard off of the bench role that CJ is too expensive (and talented) for. I think WCJ value > Missi overall, but Missi is a sufficient fit for our frontcourt. #25 balances the value of Herb. KCP is a better fit than expiring CJ now that Dejounte will get his shot in NOLA.

Follow ups...
ORL declines Moe's option and re-signs for $8m x 3y, exercises option on CoJo
ORL sends Goga to LAC for Kris Dunn - solid, defensive-minded backup vet PG with low turnovers & decent 3pt threat
ORL drafts Maxime Raynaud at #16

Missi, Raynaud, Isaac (Moe)
Paolo, Isaac, Herb
Franz, Herb, TdS
Suggs, AB, Jett
CJM, Dunn, CoJo

ORL admittedly gets older at the PG spot but upgrades starting lineup and backup tremendously. The changes at the Center spot are also very promising with two very young bigs with very different games and very low salaries for years. We would go from around $30m (before WCJ's deal jumps up) to around a little less than $15m. CJ will add a ton of veteran scoring and playmaking savvy along with elite 3pt volume and accuracy...he is an expiring deal, so bigger decisions could be made at the end of the season...he might consider a more reasonable deal for a few more years, he may earn a new contract, or we might just decide to move on without him...we would be infinitely better right away and would still have our likely lottery pick next year to look for a longer-term PG...but in no way is CJ washed up - he played over 30mpg last year, as he has every year for over a decade, and put up 20+ppg last year, as he has every year for over a decade. He's one of the smartest players in the league and definitely has the ability to adapt his game to support 2 young star scorers while still projecting his own scoring around them. Dunn is considered among the best POA defenders and, in recent years, has been a consistent 3pt threat as well. Herb is one of the really reliable, versatile 3&D guys in the league, is still quite young and under a very nice contract.

[cedric76]

NOLA drafts Maluach at #7...decide to stabilize next season, develop Maluach, get Dejounte & Zion healthy and try for a big push the following year.

ORL sends: KCP, Cole Anthony, WCJ, #25
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones, Yves Missi
Why NOLA...WCJ is still young and presents a very versatile big that can play next to Maluach or at C with Zion, Olynyk, or Murphy alongside at PF, for various looks and matchups. KCP & DJM present a long, fierce defensive backcourt with more than adequate scoring, particularly when combined with Zion at Point Forward and Murphy (who are both able to consistently put up 20ppg). Maluach is a much bigger version of Missi - but they don't need 2 of that "type". Cole can run point while Dejounte is getting his feet under him and expires at the end of the season - if he doesn't earn the scoring guard off of the bench role that CJ is too expensive (and talented) for. I think WCJ value > Missi overall, but Missi is a sufficient fit for our frontcourt. #25 balances the value of Herb. KCP is a better fit than expiring CJ now that Dejounte will get his shot in NOLA.

Follow ups...
ORL declines Moe's option and re-signs for $8m x 3y, exercises option on CoJo
ORL sends Goga to LAC for Kris Dunn - solid, defensive-minded backup vet PG with low turnovers & decent 3pt threat
ORL drafts Maxime Raynaud at #16

Missi, Raynaud, Isaac (Moe)
Paolo, Isaac, Herb
Franz, Herb, TdS
Suggs, AB, Jett
CJM, Dunn, CoJo

ORL admittedly gets older at the PG spot but upgrades starting lineup and backup tremendously. The changes at the Center spot are also very promising with two very young bigs with very different games and very low salaries for years. We would go from around $30m (before WCJ's deal jumps up) to around a little less than $15m. CJ will add a ton of veteran scoring and playmaking savvy along with elite 3pt volume and accuracy...he is an expiring deal, so bigger decisions could be made at the end of the season...he might consider a more reasonable deal for a few more years, he may earn a new contract, or we might just decide to move on without him...we would be infinitely better right away and would still have our likely lottery pick next year to look for a longer-term PG...but in no way is CJ washed up - he played over 30mpg last year, as he has every year for over a decade, and put up 20+ppg last year, as he has every year for over a decade. He's one of the smartest players in the league and definitely has the ability to adapt his game to support 2 young star scorers while still projecting his own scoring around them. Dunn is considered among the best POA defenders and, in recent years, has been a consistent 3pt threat as well. Herb is one of the really reliable, versatile 3&D guys in the league, is still quite young and under a very nice contract.

Are we still trying to lose in the 1st round?

Missi + Raynaud as your top 2 C can't be serious

Come on skybox

[SUPERBALLMAN]

I keep hearing the Magic are in need of shooting...

Magic are in win now mode. Wizards are building for the future, acquiring draft picks/prospects & moving vets...

Would you consider dealing KCP + pick 25 for Corey Kispert + Sadiq Bey?

Kispert was Suggs' college teammate, and both Kispert & Bey are solid vets who know them roles & ready to contribute now & add solid 3pt shooting. Note Bey missed last season due to ACL, but has fully recovered & ready to play and played some G league games end of season, could of returned to Wizards but they were out of it and tanking so no point in him playing, but he had been a full participant in practice for a while and all accounts looked great so he's good to go.

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[Airgordon00]

How do we feel about Trey compared to Suggs? Would this type of trade make losing Suggs acceptable.
3 teamer
Magic get Trey Murphy, Cj McCollum, Anfernee simons, Kelly olynk.

Pelicans get Jalen Suggs, JI, Goga, Gary Harris

Trailblazers get KCP, Cole, 16th pick

Magic get the much needed shot creation and 3 pt shooting while also clearing out some long term salary.

Simons/Black/cojo
Trey/CJ/jett
Franz/TDS/Houstan
Paolo/25th pick/Free agent
WCJ/olynk/moe

We definitely spread the floor more and have more ball creation with our guards. Trey is a really good defender who is a volume 3 pt shooter like Simons so anytime Franz or Paolo drives the other team better not help because we will light them up for 3. CJ could be a solid bench player that helps black spread his wings and be more impactful. Hopefully Moe comes back healthy and we could be a force to be reckoned with next year and many years to come.

[basketballRob]

Garland in 95 minutes against the Pacers. 12 assists, 12 turnovers, 13 PFs. He was Cole-level of bad.

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[Skybox]

NOLA drafts Maluach at #7...decide to stabilize next season, develop Maluach, get Dejounte & Zion healthy and try for a big push the following year.

ORL sends: KCP, Cole Anthony, WCJ, #25
NOLA sends: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones, Yves Missi
Why NOLA...WCJ is still young and presents a very versatile big that can play next to Maluach or at C with Zion, Olynyk, or Murphy alongside at PF, for various looks and matchups. KCP & DJM present a long, fierce defensive backcourt with more than adequate scoring, particularly when combined with Zion at Point Forward and Murphy (who are both able to consistently put up 20ppg). Maluach is a much bigger version of Missi - but they don't need 2 of that "type". Cole can run point while Dejounte is getting his feet under him and expires at the end of the season - if he doesn't earn the scoring guard off of the bench role that CJ is too expensive (and talented) for. I think WCJ value > Missi overall, but Missi is a sufficient fit for our frontcourt. #25 balances the value of Herb. KCP is a better fit than expiring CJ now that Dejounte will get his shot in NOLA.

Follow ups...
ORL declines Moe's option and re-signs for $8m x 3y, exercises option on CoJo
ORL sends Goga to LAC for Kris Dunn - solid, defensive-minded backup vet PG with low turnovers & decent 3pt threat
ORL drafts Maxime Raynaud at #16

Missi, Raynaud, Isaac (Moe)
Paolo, Isaac, Herb
Franz, Herb, TdS
Suggs, AB, Jett
CJM, Dunn, CoJo

ORL admittedly gets older at the PG spot but upgrades starting lineup and backup tremendously. The changes at the Center spot are also very promising with two very young bigs with very different games and very low salaries for years. We would go from around $30m (before WCJ's deal jumps up) to around a little less than $15m. CJ will add a ton of veteran scoring and playmaking savvy along with elite 3pt volume and accuracy...he is an expiring deal, so bigger decisions could be made at the end of the season...he might consider a more reasonable deal for a few more years, he may earn a new contract, or we might just decide to move on without him...we would be infinitely better right away and would still have our likely lottery pick next year to look for a longer-term PG...but in no way is CJ washed up - he played over 30mpg last year, as he has every year for over a decade, and put up 20+ppg last year, as he has every year for over a decade. He's one of the smartest players in the league and definitely has the ability to adapt his game to support 2 young star scorers while still projecting his own scoring around them. Dunn is considered among the best POA defenders and, in recent years, has been a consistent 3pt threat as well. Herb is one of the really reliable, versatile 3&D guys in the league, is still quite young and under a very nice contract.

Are we still trying to lose in the 1st round?

Missi + Raynaud as your top 2 C can't be serious

Come on skybox

I take those two (and Isaac) over WCJ and Goga all day, short and long term...I'd love to aim even higher, but I think "more than adequate" is out target for the C spot since we've got so much $$ committed elsewhere in our starting lineup. Raynaud is a 22yo senior, so this isn't another raw piece of meat and Missi played 26.8mpg in 73 games, so he's not just walking into a chipper....would love a Poeltl or Gafford or Porzingis, but priorities have to be decided, largely by finances.

I could see an argument to upgrade further, but I consider my proposal massive savings AND upgrade...what are we clinging to? Goga couldn't get on the floor and WCJ was crap all season but played angry in our 4-1 drubbing by the C's. WCJ is an adequate C/PF and I'd be happy to have him...but once his salary jumps to $18m - I'll be looking at him very differently.

[Skybox]

How do we feel about Trey compared to Suggs? Would this type of trade make losing Suggs acceptable.
3 teamer
Magic get Trey Murphy, Cj McCollum, Anfernee simons, Kelly olynk.

Pelicans get Jalen Suggs, JI, Goga, Gary Harris

Trailblazers get KCP, Cole, 16th pick

Magic get the much needed shot creation and 3 pt shooting while also clearing out some long term salary.

Simons/Black/cojo
Trey/CJ/jett
Franz/TDS/Houstan
Paolo/25th pick/Free agent
WCJ/olynk/moe

We definitely spread the floor more and have more ball creation with our guards. Trey is a really good defender who is a volume 3 pt shooter like Simons so anytime Franz or Paolo drives the other team better not help because we will light them up for 3. CJ could be a solid bench player that helps black spread his wings and be more impactful. Hopefully Moe comes back healthy and we could be a force to be reckoned with next year and many years to come.

Wow...that's a lot of firepower incoming...CJ is still a very formidable, big minutes player - I'd expect him to be willing to downshift a little bit to contend, but backing up two young guys might be a big ask...He could easily contend for 6moy if he got the minutes - I really like a CJ/AB pairing too...maybe even too much good going on here in the backcourt.

I'd prefer Missi to Olynyk, but I really like Olynyk too... in the Moe role - if that's where we're headed.

I think value is fair in both...giving up Suggs is always a good debate, but Trey Murphy is a really good young player too...in fact, I wonder if NOLA is even considering Suggs>Murphy...Murphy has scored and shot much more consistently, he's much bigger at 6'8 - very good defender but I don't know if he can go at SG. He could certainly pick up a lot of minutes at SF too. Not the level of defender Suggs is, but far more proven on the other end and doesn't have the injury concern currently attached to Suggs...the injury may be nothing, but it's there. Contracts are comparable, but Suggs' descends, so that'd be a plus for NOLA. Not sure if NOLA jumps on this or laughs it off...maybe their opinion of Isaac determines that...many just dismiss him - I think he'll be very impactful again, but I get the doubts.

I LOVE it...but if I wrote it - the peanut gallery would jump in with a bunch of "This ain't 2K"

[Skybox]

I keep hearing the Magic are in need of shooting...

Magic are in win now mode. Wizards are building for the future, acquiring draft picks/prospects & moving vets...

Would you consider dealing KCP + pick 25 for Corey Kispert + Sadiq Bey?

Kispert was Suggs' college teammate, and both Kispert & Bey are solid vets who know them roles & ready to contribute now & add solid 3pt shooting. Note Bey missed last season due to ACL, but has fully recovered & ready to play and played some G league games end of season, could of returned to Wizards but they were out of it and tanking so no point in him playing, but he had been a full participant in practice for a while and all accounts looked great so he's good to go.

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I would! what would it take to get AJ Johnson too? (WAS has a load of young PGs with Poole in front of them and maybe another high-level guard at #6)

[Airgordon00]

How do we feel about Trey compared to Suggs? Would this type of trade make losing Suggs acceptable.
3 teamer
Magic get Trey Murphy, Cj McCollum, Anfernee simons, Kelly olynk.

Pelicans get Jalen Suggs, JI, Goga, Gary Harris

Trailblazers get KCP, Cole, 16th pick

Magic get the much needed shot creation and 3 pt shooting while also clearing out some long term salary.

Simons/Black/cojo
Trey/CJ/jett
Franz/TDS/Houstan
Paolo/25th pick/Free agent
WCJ/olynk/moe

We definitely spread the floor more and have more ball creation with our guards. Trey is a really good defender who is a volume 3 pt shooter like Simons so anytime Franz or Paolo drives the other team better not help because we will light them up for 3. CJ could be a solid bench player that helps black spread his wings and be more impactful. Hopefully Moe comes back healthy and we could be a force to be reckoned with next year and many years to come.

Wow...that's a lot of firepower incoming...CJ is still a very formidable, big minutes player - I'd expect him to be willing to downshift a little bit to contend, but backing up two young guys might be a big ask...He could easily contend for 6moy if he got the minutes - I really like a CJ/AB pairing too...maybe even too much good going on here in the backcourt.

I'd prefer Missi to Olynyk, but I really like Olynyk too... in the Moe role - if that's where we're headed.

I think value is fair in both...giving up Suggs is always a good debate, but Trey Murphy is a really good young player too...in fact, I wonder if NOLA is even considering Suggs>Murphy...Murphy has scored and shot much more consistently, he's much bigger at 6'8 - very good defender but I don't know if he can go at SG. He could certainly pick up a lot of minutes at SF too. Not the level of defender Suggs is, but far more proven on the other end and doesn't have the injury concern currently attached to Suggs...the injury may be nothing, but it's there. Contracts are comparable, but Suggs' descends, so that'd be a plus for NOLA. Not sure if NOLA jumps on this or laughs it off...maybe their opinion of Isaac determines that...many just dismiss him - I think he'll be very impactful again, but I get the doubts.

I LOVE it...but if I wrote it - the peanut gallery would jump in with a bunch of "This ain't 2K"

Lol that is true. Yeah I wasn’t sure how pelicans would feel about it but maybe if we found another team who could give an equivalent player they like more and they take Suggs then it could work. I just haven’t thought about Trey till you guys brought it up and it got me thinking what a good fit he could be here.

[Skybox]

How do we feel about Trey compared to Suggs? Would this type of trade make losing Suggs acceptable.
3 teamer
Magic get Trey Murphy, Cj McCollum, Anfernee simons, Kelly olynk.

Pelicans get Jalen Suggs, JI, Goga, Gary Harris

Trailblazers get KCP, Cole, 16th pick

Magic get the much needed shot creation and 3 pt shooting while also clearing out some long term salary.

Simons/Black/cojo
Trey/CJ/jett
Franz/TDS/Houstan
Paolo/25th pick/Free agent
WCJ/olynk/moe

We definitely spread the floor more and have more ball creation with our guards. Trey is a really good defender who is a volume 3 pt shooter like Simons so anytime Franz or Paolo drives the other team better not help because we will light them up for 3. CJ could be a solid bench player that helps black spread his wings and be more impactful. Hopefully Moe comes back healthy and we could be a force to be reckoned with next year and many years to come.

Wow...that's a lot of firepower incoming...CJ is still a very formidable, big minutes player - I'd expect him to be willing to downshift a little bit to contend, but backing up two young guys might be a big ask...He could easily contend for 6moy if he got the minutes - I really like a CJ/AB pairing too...maybe even too much good going on here in the backcourt.

I'd prefer Missi to Olynyk, but I really like Olynyk too... in the Moe role - if that's where we're headed.

I think value is fair in both...giving up Suggs is always a good debate, but Trey Murphy is a really good young player too...in fact, I wonder if NOLA is even considering Suggs>Murphy...Murphy has scored and shot much more consistently, he's much bigger at 6'8 - very good defender but I don't know if he can go at SG. He could certainly pick up a lot of minutes at SF too. Not the level of defender Suggs is, but far more proven on the other end and doesn't have the injury concern currently attached to Suggs...the injury may be nothing, but it's there. Contracts are comparable, but Suggs' descends, so that'd be a plus for NOLA. Not sure if NOLA jumps on this or laughs it off...maybe their opinion of Isaac determines that...many just dismiss him - I think he'll be very impactful again, but I get the doubts.

I LOVE it...but if I wrote it - the peanut gallery would jump in with a bunch of "This ain't 2K"

Lol that is true. Yeah I wasn’t sure how pelicans would feel about it but maybe if we found another team who could give an equivalent player they like more and they take Suggs then it could work. I just haven’t thought about Trey till you guys brought it up and it got me thinking what a good fit he could be here.

Really curious what Suggs' TRUE perceived value would be outside of fanboys and haters...hard to say.

It's like AB - we see moments that we can extrapolate towards his ultimate vision...but someone outside of our cocoon would be like "What the heck are you talking about? 9/3/3 and can't shoot"...obviously (I think) the truth is somewhere in the middle.

NOLA fans probably consider Murphy a rising All-Star after putting up 21ppg last season...that's why I keep coming back to Herb as more gettable.

[basketballRob]

I keep hearing the Magic are in need of shooting...

Magic are in win now mode. Wizards are building for the future, acquiring draft picks/prospects & moving vets...

Would you consider dealing KCP + pick 25 for Corey Kispert + Sadiq Bey?

Kispert was Suggs' college teammate, and both Kispert & Bey are solid vets who know them roles & ready to contribute now & add solid 3pt shooting. Note Bey missed last season due to ACL, but has fully recovered & ready to play and played some G league games end of season, could of returned to Wizards but they were out of it and tanking so no point in him playing, but he had been a full participant in practice for a while and all accounts looked great so he's good to go.

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I'd be willing to part with KCP, Cole, and the #25 for Poole. Kispert is a nice ancillary player, but we're looking for a high volume player.

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[Black and Blue]

The Orlando Magic are projected to be over the first apron NOW. With this current playoff play-in roster. Once the extension for Paolo and others kicks in, they will be even MORE in trouble.

I agree with the tone of you post, notably on my answer to the second half below. But the accounting of the Banchero max is not a problem in the medium term. The finances of the team from the 2028.29 season are fine.

Why? Two reasons. i) Suggs has a declining contract that makes it easy to swallow F-Wagner's and Banchero's max-deals. Indeed, the reason the Magic is over the apron next year is because Suggs is so WILDLY overpaid in 2025.25. But that was done so that when the team gets "interesting", Suggs will be on a normal deal for his contract line.

and ii) we cannot underestimate what 10% annual increases to the salary cap will do to players' salaries. F-Wagner and Banchero are maxed to the "old" CBA salary lines. The max'es that are coming will be ridiculous.
Let me go back to 2028.29 as an example. The cap will be 51M more than the 2025.26 cap
The 2028.29 apron will be 65M more than the 2025.26

Orlando needs to "eat" a bad contact year for 2025.26 to ensure max flexibility in the primer years of the two forward. Which leads to ...

I'm not saying this to be a jerk. I just really like you guys and don't want you to be confused or disappointed with where this team goes this offseason. It's either going to be some meh roster moves to switch out our role players, or a wow move that shakes up the foundation of the team but costs one of the big three. The money forces this unless the team goes deep into the tax to signal win now. If THAT happens, then wow I would be surprised because it would suggest this is an ownership group that is willing to spend money to contend in a title window (aka it ain't happening).

And-1

The Magic is not gonna trade for Garland or Young. And it is ridiculous to think that Orlando would bring in Antetokounmpo. It is mathematically impossible for a team to carry three max players in the new CBA. Full stop.

This off season will be only about trades. And trades that lower the salary line by 2-3M in that.

For example, Anfernee Simons at 27M means a trade that must include, for example, Anthony, Howard and Bitadze, or Caldwell-Pope and Howard.
Salaries gotta end with the Magic taking a shade less salary than sending out.
This is the MAX type of trade the Magic can do this offseason.

As an aside, this is another reason the Magic really don't want the #16. That pick will cost about 1M more in salary than a league min contract.
$3,685,300-rookie vs ~$2,500,000-LLE vet (depends on year's of service).

p.s. Jett Howard's $5,529,506 salary is painful this coming season. Dude's gotta go if only for bean-counting.

Fantastic post. Tons of great info. Cheers, brother.

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I'm not ruling out Garland...but I'm definitely ruling out discussing it with CLE fans - for my mental health.