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What does a Myles Turner trade look like?

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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#62 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu May 15, 2025 6:40 pm

I think it's important to remember that none of our players play in a style that inherently draws fouls. We have a ton of jump shooters by trade, which tends to get fouled less. We don't have anyone in a Brunson/Mitchell style of dribbling into traffic and strongly jumping into contact (and often finishing). We're a bit more finesse in that regard?
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#63 » by Wizop » Thu May 15, 2025 7:32 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:I think it's important to remember that none of our players play in a style that inherently draws fouls. We have a ton of jump shooters by trade, which tends to get fouled less. We don't have anyone in a Brunson/Mitchell style of dribbling into traffic and strongly jumping into contact (and often finishing). We're a bit more finesse in that regard?


except for Mathurin and he does get to the line some although not as often as he'd like.
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#64 » by AussiePacer » Thu May 29, 2025 10:11 am

Can we change this thread to what does a Myles Turner extension look like?
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#65 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu May 29, 2025 12:18 pm

AussiePacer wrote:Can we change this thread to what does a Myles Turner extension look like?



Can’t. He can’t legally sign an extension. :sad:

Because of the restriction of time from his renegotiation, he is guaranteed to hit unrestricted free agency. So we’d have to call it “What does a new Myles Turner contract look like”.
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#66 » by 31since1990 » Thu May 29, 2025 2:34 pm

I would dump Myles for a agile rebound-dominating big in a HEARTBEAT. I'm sorry, being 6'11 and never averaging 10 rebounds in your ENTIRE CAREER is UNACCEPTABLE
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#67 » by Wizop » Thu May 29, 2025 2:46 pm

31since1990 wrote:I would dump Myles for a agile rebound-dominating big in a HEARTBEAT. I'm sorry, being 6'11 and never averaging 10 rebounds in your ENTIRE CAREER is UNACCEPTABLE


I think we pay tax to keep him and I agree with that. However, I wouldn't rush to resign iJax and I'd hope the draft gives us the big you want to backup Myles.
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#68 » by 31since1990 » Thu May 29, 2025 4:07 pm

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31since1990 wrote:I would dump Myles for a agile rebound-dominating big in a HEARTBEAT. I'm sorry, being 6'11 and never averaging 10 rebounds in your ENTIRE CAREER is UNACCEPTABLE


I think we pay tax to keep him and I agree with that. However, I wouldn't rush to resign iJax and I'd hope the draft gives us the big you want to backup Myles.


But thats exactly what IJAX DOES
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#69 » by Wizop » Thu May 29, 2025 4:15 pm

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31since1990 wrote:I would dump Myles for a agile rebound-dominating big in a HEARTBEAT. I'm sorry, being 6'11 and never averaging 10 rebounds in your ENTIRE CAREER is UNACCEPTABLE


I think we pay tax to keep him and I agree with that. However, I wouldn't rush to resign iJax and I'd hope the draft gives us the big you want to backup Myles.


But thats exactly what IJAX DOES


I think we need a bigger backup than iJax. Plus, I'm not sure when he will be ready to play again - not that I wouldn't love him to be able to dress in the finals.
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#70 » by JMaster5K » Fri May 30, 2025 8:16 am

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I think we pay tax to keep him and I agree with that. However, I wouldn't rush to resign iJax and I'd hope the draft gives us the big you want to backup Myles.


But thats exactly what IJAX DOES


I think we need a bigger backup than iJax. Plus, I'm not sure when he will be ready to play again - not that I wouldn't love him to be able to dress in the finals.


I hear you,... I think Myles needs to work on his rebounding. Even with all things considered, he should rebound more than he does,... but,... I wouldn't trade Myles for just any big that can rebound. I mean the league leader in RPG this year is Doma?... LOL =]

Part of Myles struggles on the offensive boards come from where he plays on the floor. Playing mostly 5 out is going to mean he is farther from the basket, and less likely to be in position to work the offensive glass. He also isn't likely to be fast enough to get to those, longer, open floor rebounds. But, he plays there because it creates a better offensive matchup for the Pacers & allows Pascal to do what he does from the mid-post without Myles in the same area of the court, clogging up the middle, and often making it possible to cover them at the rim with 1 player allowing the other guys man to hedge the passing lanes. So, I can understand (a bit) of the struggles on the offensive end. But still agree with you,... the rebounding anticipation is not as good as I would like to see.

I wouldn't want a big that was locked into the deep post on offense because of the fit with Pascal solely based on the fact that they can rebound? the best rebounder per 100 possessions (qualifiers) is Steven Adams,... and I wouldn't trade Myles for him?

Defensively,.. If I go look at DRB%, as opposed to sheer numbers,... He is at 19.4%, which puts him at 35th in the league. Yeah, I agree, he is a 7'1", better than average athlete, who should have better timing & anticipation on his rebounding. But, with the way the Pacers play I wouldn't expect 10-15 RPG,... I would expect 8 - 10 RPG numbers instead of the 6-8 we are seeing?
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#71 » by Wizop » Fri May 30, 2025 12:41 pm

I resign Myles and hope the draft gives us a big bodied center to back him up.
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#72 » by AussiePacer » Fri May 30, 2025 8:47 pm

Wizop wrote:I resign Myles and hope the draft gives us a big bodied center to back him up.


How realistic is it to draft a big bodied and ready for 10-20 mins a night centre? I mean it can happen but I’m less optimistic about it.

I kinda liked what Wiseman projected as - a decent back up who is a good rim runner who could get 6-10 relatively easy points in those minutes and do enough defensively or on the glass.

Subject to how we finish the season, somewhat ironically, teams may take a “2 bigs” approach and try to bully ball us more regularly, use offensive rebounding to reduce our volume of fast possessions. I get why another big body is helpful.

It also goes against the way I imagine we want to play.

Maybe it’s the 15th roster spot - a big lug for different looks when we need to break the emergency glass.
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#73 » by Wizop » Fri May 30, 2025 9:08 pm

AussiePacer wrote:Maybe it’s the 15th roster spot - a big lug for different looks when we need to break the emergency glass.


I think that's the likely role for a rookie big. call it 14th though with JJ sticking at 15. we probably need a veteran big on the second unit if iJax or TB don't return.
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#74 » by AussiePacer » Fri May 30, 2025 9:16 pm

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AussiePacer wrote:Maybe it’s the 15th roster spot - a big lug for different looks when we need to break the emergency glass.


I think that's the likely role for a rookie big. call it 14th though with JJ sticking at 15. we probably need a veteran big on the second unit if iJax or TB don't return.


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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#75 » by Scoot McGroot » Sat May 31, 2025 2:25 pm

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Wizop wrote:I resign Myles and hope the draft gives us a big bodied center to back him up.


How realistic is it to draft a big bodied and ready for 10-20 mins a night centre? I mean it can happen but I’m less optimistic about it.

I kinda liked what Wiseman projected as - a decent back up who is a good rim runner who could get 6-10 relatively easy points in those minutes and do enough defensively or on the glass.

Subject to how we finish the season, somewhat ironically, teams may take a “2 bigs” approach and try to bully ball us more regularly, use offensive rebounding to reduce our volume of fast possessions. I get why another big body is helpful.

It also goes against the way I imagine we want to play.

Maybe it’s the 15th roster spot - a big lug for different looks when we need to break the emergency glass.



To be fair, the bolded doesn’t describe Wiseman at all. He’s absolutely terrible defensively, and he’s only a rebounder if the ball bounces right to him. He can’t track them down. He’s absolutely a quick scoring deep bench big time though, as that’s really all his game is at this point, albeit as a bit of a black hole.
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#76 » by Wizop » Sat May 31, 2025 2:49 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:To be fair, the bolded doesn’t describe Wiseman at all. He’s absolutely terrible defensively, and he’s only a rebounder if the ball bounces right to him. He can’t track them down. He’s absolutely a quick scoring deep bench big time though, as that’s really all his game is at this point, albeit as a bit of a black hole.


He's a step up from Tony but I hope we can find someone still better in the draft.
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#77 » by Scoot McGroot » Sat May 31, 2025 3:18 pm

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Scoot McGroot wrote:To be fair, the bolded doesn’t describe Wiseman at all. He’s absolutely terrible defensively, and he’s only a rebounder if the ball bounces right to him. He can’t track them down. He’s absolutely a quick scoring deep bench big time though, as that’s really all his game is at this point, albeit as a bit of a black hole.


He's a step up from Tony but I hope we can find someone still better in the draft.


I think they're just opposites, but probably similar level impact? Tony is a rebounder/big body tough defender (but not in space) and almost completely lacking real offensive touch, while James is lacking any real defensive impact and rebounding, but has a real soft offensive touch inside 8 feet? Both low impact 3rd string centers, overall.
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#78 » by JMaster5K » Sat May 31, 2025 6:13 pm

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AussiePacer wrote:Can we change this thread to what does a Myles Turner extension look like?



Can’t. He can’t legally sign an extension. :sad:

Because of the restriction of time from his renegotiation, he is guaranteed to hit unrestricted free agency. So we’d have to call it “What does a new Myles Turner contract look like”.


That change would be good! After this season/post season, I read that title and think ‘nonexistant’. :)
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#79 » by Pacers Forever » Sun Jun 1, 2025 3:03 am

What does a Myles Turner trade look like?

We’ll never know.
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Re: What does a Myles Turner trade look like? 

Post#80 » by Grang33r » Sun Jun 1, 2025 3:50 am

Pacers Forever wrote:What does a Myles Turner trade look like?

We’ll never know.



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