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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#1201 » by JimmyButler21 » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:49 am

Lexluthor wrote:I will say it again Tom Thibodeau is overrated. I don’t why Bulls fans like him so much . His team never wins the big games

Fun regular season coach but when every team is playing at the same intensity, he falls flat
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Post#1202 » by dumbell78 » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:51 am

Im not blaming Thibs for this one. When you're stars dont put you on their back in a do or die situation, its curtains.

KAT being your 1A is a front office decision that will hurt them time and time again. He refuses to play defense, has too many brain-dead moments, and frankly doesn't pair well with Brunson (especially on D). Any smart team will just PnR those guys to death and I don't care how good your wing defenders are, its too damn hard to cover both those guys at once. I struggle to find a player with less court awareness than KAT. I bet if Thibs could, he could give him the Boozer treatment but just doesnt have a Taj sitting on the bench.
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Post#1203 » by Lexluthor » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:52 am

Ice Man wrote:So ... Jokic was asked if Denver had enough to win, and he gave the non-answer of I guess not since we lost. But the correct answer seems to me to be, hell yes. Bring it back. They were the best Western team in this year's playoffs except for OKC. An injury to SGA and Denver would likely be in the Finals.

As Red Larivee keeps writing, and accurately at that, in this era of 3 balls and injuries there are no sure things. You just need to be good enough to have your hat in the playoff ring, in a serious way. (Say, a top #4 seed or better.) Denver qualifies.

You don’t know that I remember the nuggets losing to the wolves last year in game 7 and the nuggets had home court advantage . MJ , Shaq , Duncan Kobe , Hakeem , Bird. Wouldn’t let that happen on their home floor .
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Post#1204 » by MrSparkle » Sun Jun 1, 2025 3:02 am

dumbell78 wrote:Im not blaming Thibs for this one. When you're stars dont put you on their back in a do or die situation, its curtains.

KAT being your 1A is a front office decision that will hurt them time and time again. He refuses to play defense, has too many brain-dead moments, and frankly doesn't pair well with Brunson (especially on D). Any smart team will just PnR those guys to death and I don't care how good your wing defenders are, its too damn hard to cover both those guys at once. I struggle to find a player with less court awareness than KAT. I bet if Thibs could, he could give him the Boozer treatment but just doesnt have a Taj sitting on the bench.


Yeah. Again, it’s just a shame NYK went from having a strong team with tons of assets to shedding them all for Mikal and KAT (well, not really; I don’t feel bad for Knicks fans… though I get a little sad for Thibs and Spike). Either way, Pacers have been better 2Y in a row.

OKC vs Indy. Didn’t have the Hoosiers on my bingo card, but I did call OKC finals after the Caruso trade, so I award myself a cookie. Bulls and Kings do great favors for other organizations. Good partners in crime.
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Post#1205 » by HomoSapien » Sun Jun 1, 2025 3:06 am

So many of us wanted to draft Haliburton. Instead we have Pat. Such a bummer, especially since Haliburton is the type of player AKME and Donovan seem to like.
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Post#1206 » by MrSparkle » Sun Jun 1, 2025 3:11 am

HomoSapien wrote:So many of us wanted to draft Haliburton. Instead we have Pat. Such a bummer, especially since Haliburton is the type of player AKME and Donovan seem to like.


Well, atleast we didn’t draft and then trade him for Vuc.
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Post#1207 » by kodo » Sun Jun 1, 2025 3:24 am

Interesting the GB voted the Knicks should fire Thibs 2 to 1.
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Post#1208 » by RSP83 » Sun Jun 1, 2025 3:29 am

After watching this Knicks and Pacers ECF, I'm somewhat curious about checking Myles Turner's stats.

Apparently the guy has been a consistent solid starter all his career. And his signature stats is something like 15-17 ppg, > 2 bpg, 7 rpg, > .750 FT, .360 3FG.

He's basically mid-teen scorer, elite shot blocker, solid shooter from free throw line and 3-point line, but poor rebounder for his size. Automatically reminds me of Brook Lopez. When I check I'm amazed how similar both guys stays look like.

I can't help myself thinking, could they be the championship contender starting center archetype in today's NBA?

A 6'11 - 7 foot center who provide elite rim protection and interior defense, who can give you 15 points a game (projected as 3rd option on your team), can hit the 3 at respectable rate (.350), good ft shooter (.750). Doesn't necessarily have to be a double-double machine or elite rebounder for their size.
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Post#1209 » by kodo » Sun Jun 1, 2025 3:43 am

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dumbell78 wrote:Im not blaming Thibs for this one. When you're stars dont put you on their back in a do or die situation, its curtains.

KAT being your 1A is a front office decision that will hurt them time and time again. He refuses to play defense, has too many brain-dead moments, and frankly doesn't pair well with Brunson (especially on D). Any smart team will just PnR those guys to death and I don't care how good your wing defenders are, its too damn hard to cover both those guys at once. I struggle to find a player with less court awareness than KAT. I bet if Thibs could, he could give him the Boozer treatment but just doesnt have a Taj sitting on the bench.


Yeah. Again, it’s just a shame NYK went from having a strong team with tons of assets to shedding them all for Mikal and KAT (well, not really; I don’t feel bad for Knicks fans… though I get a little sad for Thibs and Spike). Either way, Pacers have been better 2Y in a row.


I still think KAT wasn't a bad deal, cost them a 1st round pick and two 2nd round picks. He isn't a championship 1A, but they didn't pay a 1A price. That's the exact same price that was paid for Jakob Poeltl. A 1st round pick gets you a roleplayer these days, and KAT's been much more than just an average roleplayer for them.

It was really the Mikal trade for 5 1st rounders + a pick swap, and most of it unprotected. They could have just stopped at the KAT trade and had all those assets to use for Giannis or KD.
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Post#1210 » by 2weekswithpay » Sun Jun 1, 2025 3:58 am

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Post#1211 » by Dan Z » Sun Jun 1, 2025 5:35 am

kodo wrote:
MrSparkle wrote:
dumbell78 wrote:Im not blaming Thibs for this one. When you're stars dont put you on their back in a do or die situation, its curtains.

KAT being your 1A is a front office decision that will hurt them time and time again. He refuses to play defense, has too many brain-dead moments, and frankly doesn't pair well with Brunson (especially on D). Any smart team will just PnR those guys to death and I don't care how good your wing defenders are, its too damn hard to cover both those guys at once. I struggle to find a player with less court awareness than KAT. I bet if Thibs could, he could give him the Boozer treatment but just doesnt have a Taj sitting on the bench.


Yeah. Again, it’s just a shame NYK went from having a strong team with tons of assets to shedding them all for Mikal and KAT (well, not really; I don’t feel bad for Knicks fans… though I get a little sad for Thibs and Spike). Either way, Pacers have been better 2Y in a row.


I still think KAT wasn't a bad deal, cost them a 1st round pick and two 2nd round picks. He isn't a championship 1A, but they didn't pay a 1A price. That's the exact same price that was paid for Jakob Poeltl. A 1st round pick gets you a roleplayer these days, and KAT's been much more than just an average roleplayer for them.

It was really the Mikal trade for 5 1st rounders + a pick swap, and most of it unprotected. They could have just stopped at the KAT trade and had all those assets to use for Giannis or KD.


Is the pick they gave up for KAT the #17 pick in the upcoming draft?

I agree that it wasn't a big price for KAT, but Randle and DiVincenzo are good players too. One thing that people forget with this trade is that the Knicks needed a center at that time (Mitchell Robinson was out for most of the season).

As for Mikal Bridges, I agree with you that they gave up too much to get him, but I don't think those picks would get them Giannis. KD....maybe. It all depends on what Phoenix wants for him.
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Post#1212 » by WesPeace » Sun Jun 1, 2025 6:00 am

MrSparkle wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:So many of us wanted to draft Haliburton. Instead we have Pat. Such a bummer, especially since Haliburton is the type of player AKME and Donovan seem to like.


Well, atleast we didn’t draft and then trade him for Vuc.

Bingo haha
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Post#1213 » by WesPeace » Sun Jun 1, 2025 6:03 am

This is the most boring finals for me since I can remember, dont really care much about either team. Not on my list of teams I really like, so whoever wins good for them.
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Post#1214 » by Hangtime84 » Sun Jun 1, 2025 6:11 am

HomoSapien wrote:So many of us wanted to draft Haliburton. Instead we have Pat. Such a bummer, especially since Haliburton is the type of player AKME and Donovan seem to like.

Don't worry he making up for it.
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If the Bulls do, you would be complaining to much to ever hear it.


NBA fan logic we need to trade one of two best players because (Player X) one needs to shine more.
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Post#1215 » by Hangtime84 » Sun Jun 1, 2025 6:23 am

Jcool0 wrote:
aguifs wrote:Do we have a friggin plan?


If the Bulls do, you would be complaining to much to ever hear it.


NBA fan logic we need to trade one of two best players because (Player X) one needs to shine more.
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Post#1216 » by pipfan » Sun Jun 1, 2025 6:42 am

WesPeace wrote:This is the most boring finals for me since I can remember, dont really care much about either team. Not on my list of teams I really like, so whoever wins good for them.

Interesting, I feel the exact opposite-I love the matchup and can't wait.
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Post#1217 » by Indomitable » Sun Jun 1, 2025 8:32 am

WesPeace wrote:This is the most boring finals for me since I can remember, dont really care much about either team. Not on my list of teams I really like, so whoever wins good for them.

Well take care.
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Post#1218 » by Muzbar » Sun Jun 1, 2025 11:06 am

pipfan wrote:
WesPeace wrote:This is the most boring finals for me since I can remember, dont really care much about either team. Not on my list of teams I really like, so whoever wins good for them.

Interesting, I feel the exact opposite-I love the matchup and can't wait.

100%.

So awesome to see 2 teams in the finals that aren't normally there and haven't been to the finals for such a long time.
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Post#1219 » by Andi Obst » Sun Jun 1, 2025 11:57 am

Siakam over Hali for ECF MVP is just Jaylen Brown over Tatum for Finals MVP all over again. Siakam had a great series, I get it and I'm happy for him, but that's just the wrong decision. The voters need to stop trying to be different or whatever it is that they're doing.
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Post#1220 » by Almost Retired » Sun Jun 1, 2025 12:10 pm

WesPeace wrote:This is the most boring finals for me since I can remember, dont really care much about either team. Not on my list of teams I really like, so whoever wins good for them.


My only interest is in comparing the Thunder to other championship squads from the past. It's scary to look at that roster with the realization that they are stocked with future Draft capital. Multiple First Round picks in every draft for the next 3 years. Barring an injury to SAG we could be looking at a dynasty. What a well run franchise. The absolute antithesis of the Bulls.

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