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Post#801 » by fuller4379 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:43 pm

Usually, the Knick media trades look stupid. They want to trade a spare part for a star. I actually like this one from the Mavericks end though. I seriously doubt it would ever happen.

The Mikal Bridges trade
Knicks receive: Daniel Gafford, Caleb Martin

Mavericks receive: Mikal Bridges


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Post#802 » by Mr B » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:16 pm

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Mr B wrote:I think you might be underestimating just how much Dumont was involved in the Luka trade.


He was involved but it wasn't his idea. After Nico convinced him he was obviously fully on board and later made a lot of dumb statements and angered fans even more. New CEO Waltz was also informed 45 mins before it happened and did nothing to stop the trade. They were all on this as was Kidd. But like i said, experienced owner who knows this business inside out and the fanbase, would first fire his GM before let anything like this happen.

Kidd was in on it for sure regardless of what he says about not knowing. There is a reason Luka and Kidd still haven’t spoken to each other.
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Post#803 » by HMFFL » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:39 pm

Darren wrote:AD for PG and 3rd pick could be a real possibility if the Mavs head to another direction.
The 3rd pick will be difficult to justify to an ownership when Paul George is owned like $160m. That's assuming he agrees to his player option that is roughly $60m (off the top of my head).
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Post#804 » by HMFFL » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:42 pm

Mr B wrote:Everyone needs to accept the fact that Nico isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Dumont and the Adelson’s want him here. Neither the ownership group of Nico will be going anywhere before a new arena is approved or denied.

Interesting tidbit about the plans for the new arena. It will be a basketball complex only. They will not have to share the area with the Dallas Stars anymore (if it’s approved).
Not having to share with the Stars is a positive.

I assume it means the team can get rid of it's practice facility as well.
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Post#805 » by fuller4379 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:44 pm

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Darren wrote:AD for PG and 3rd pick could be a real possibility if the Mavs head to another direction.
The 3rd pick will be difficult to justify to an ownership when Paul George is owned like $160m. That's assuming he agrees to his player option that is roughly $60m (off the top of my head).


Trading Paul George helps teams make it to the NBA finals.
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Post#806 » by Teffer10 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:33 pm

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Darren wrote:AD for PG and 3rd pick could be a real possibility if the Mavs head to another direction.
The 3rd pick will be difficult to justify to an ownership when Paul George is owned like $160m. That's assuming he agrees to his player option that is roughly $60m (off the top of my head).

IDK...trading a useless washed up star that is owed roughly 185 mil over next years for virtually the same player who is owed 160 mil and getting the 3rd pick in the process might not be tough to justify.
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Post#807 » by Maverick41 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 12:09 am

DAL receives: Nurkic + Miles Bridges #4 + 27 DAL FRP + 27 CHA FRP (top 5 protected)
CHA receives: AD

DAL rebuilds around Flagg. Get the #4 pick, our 27 FRP pick and another pick from CHA. I don't want Bridges near this team but he's needed for salary matching. Cut salary and get beneath 2nd apron also.

CHA puts together a team around Lamelo, AD and B. Miller. It's the East. That's a playoff team.
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Post#808 » by Mr B » Tue Jun 3, 2025 12:12 am

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Mr B wrote:Everyone needs to accept the fact that Nico isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Dumont and the Adelson’s want him here. Neither the ownership group of Nico will be going anywhere before a new arena is approved or denied.

Interesting tidbit about the plans for the new arena. It will be a basketball complex only. They will not have to share the area with the Dallas Stars anymore (if it’s approved).
Not having to share with the Stars is a positive.

I assume it means the team can get rid of it's practice facility as well.

That is one of the areas I’ve heard them talk about wanting to put a new arena (in the Art’s District) but I don’t see how that area would be big enough even if it doesn’t have a casino attached to it. I really think it’s going to be in Irving though.

They talked about with it being a basketball only complex there are more things they can do entertainment wise.
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Post#809 » by daoneandonly » Tue Jun 3, 2025 2:03 am

Maverick41 wrote:DAL receives: Nurkic + Miles Bridges #4 + 27 DAL FRP + 27 CHA FRP (top 5 protected)
CHA receives: AD

DAL rebuilds around Flagg. Get the #4 pick, our 27 FRP pick and another pick from CHA. I don't want Bridges near this team but he's needed for salary matching. Cut salary and get beneath 2nd apron also.

CHA puts together a team around Lamelo, AD and B. Miller. It's the East. That's a playoff team.


I think it's too pricey for Cha. Three FRP for an aging always injured AD wouldn't be a wise move for them. No Brainer for Dallas
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Post#810 » by arkuo » Tue Jun 3, 2025 2:39 am

Mikal Bridges is not appealing. He declined a $60M extension from NY so if you trade for him, you get the wonderful priviledge of paying him $130M for 4 years.

What I'm hearing from Mikal is his defense dropped off and he forgot how to shoot 3s. Haliburton, Nembhard and Nesmith were running circles around him and OG Anunoby. Supposedly the league's best defenders. For the price tag, just get Herb IMO.
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Post#811 » by Maverick41 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 3:06 am

daoneandonly wrote:
Maverick41 wrote:DAL receives: Nurkic + Miles Bridges #4 + 27 DAL FRP + 27 CHA FRP (top 5 protected)
CHA receives: AD

DAL rebuilds around Flagg. Get the #4 pick, our 27 FRP pick and another pick from CHA. I don't want Bridges near this team but he's needed for salary matching. Cut salary and get beneath 2nd apron also.

CHA puts together a team around Lamelo, AD and B. Miller. It's the East. That's a playoff team.


I think it's too pricey for Cha. Three FRP for an aging always injured AD wouldn't be a wise move for them. No Brainer for Dallas

Yeah I think so too. Probably needs to take out the 27 CHA FRP to make it even realistically.

I know Nico won't do this trade but it's my preferred direction of the team.
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Post#812 » by kanofwindHK » Tue Jun 3, 2025 4:00 am

Maverick41 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Maverick41 wrote:DAL receives: Nurkic + Miles Bridges #4 + 27 DAL FRP + 27 CHA FRP (top 5 protected)
CHA receives: AD

DAL rebuilds around Flagg. Get the #4 pick, our 27 FRP pick and another pick from CHA. I don't want Bridges near this team but he's needed for salary matching. Cut salary and get beneath 2nd apron also.

CHA puts together a team around Lamelo, AD and B. Miller. It's the East. That's a playoff team.


I think it's too pricey for Cha. Three FRP for an aging always injured AD wouldn't be a wise move for them. No Brainer for Dallas

Yeah I think so too. Probably needs to take out the 27 CHA FRP to make it even realistically.

I know Nico won't do this trade but it's my preferred direction of the team.

don't know why you those always rate AD so low, when healthy, he is a top 10 player in NBA, even better than healthy Irving. Now you trade AD away will not have an equal good player in return. Just sit and look at how AD play a full season then you will know how good he is. AD and Flagg will be the best 2 forward comb in the world, both in attack and def
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Post#813 » by kanofwindHK » Tue Jun 3, 2025 4:01 am

daoneandonly wrote:Won't happen on either side, but if BKN were willing to take AD into space (or at least mostly, maybe use a couple of smaller contracts) plus the 8th pick and a future pick, would you do it?

We can then maybe draft Flagg's Duke running mate Kneuppel and have loads of cap flexibility.

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Post#814 » by kanofwindHK » Tue Jun 3, 2025 4:05 am

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Michaellam1987 wrote:I think you guys are confused on the trade offer. PHX 2029 #1 is not belonging to PHX, tons of team are in the mix for the right for pick swap. So IMO, you can assume it will be a late first round pick. NYK pick will be a very distant one or actually untradeable yet, or if you are talking about that one from WAS, it has no value as it is lottery protected. Therefore, it is basically AD for KD + McBride + a late first, and it is a NO for me.

Thanks for clarifying. My understanding is that WAS pick from NY is now top 8 protected, not lottery protected. Still unlikely but top 14 vs top 8 is pretty big. To be honest, both NY and PHX's draft availability situation confuses me which is why I kept it general in my initial proposal in this thread.

I don't disagree that we are owed more. AD has the highest value in this trade proposal in general. If we can exact another pick or 2 from both, that would be my preference.

I guess I'm vastly under valuing AD because he isnt worth 57+mil we owe him over the next few years. Hell, I'm close to putting him in the KP category when it comes to reliability.

And to think we will be relying on him to be our offensive catalist going into next season should make every Mavs fan cringe.

We should get what we can while we can before we end up having to resort to Dinwiddie/Bertan Davis type moves and include picks just to get rid of him.

KP is never in the same level close to AD in any one single day
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Post#815 » by arkuo » Tue Jun 3, 2025 4:19 am

kanofwindHK wrote:
Maverick41 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
I think it's too pricey for Cha. Three FRP for an aging always injured AD wouldn't be a wise move for them. No Brainer for Dallas

Yeah I think so too. Probably needs to take out the 27 CHA FRP to make it even realistically.

I know Nico won't do this trade but it's my preferred direction of the team.

don't know why you those always rate AD so low, when healthy, he is a top 10 player in NBA, even better than healthy Irving. Now you trade AD away will not have an equal good player in return. Just sit and look at how AD play a full season then you will know how good he is. AD and Flagg will be the best 2 forward comb in the world, both in attack and def



Mavs fans feel AD is Otto Porter Jr. because a lot have a crush on Luka. So the trade feels like a breakup especially for the emotionally invested ones. It will pass eventually. Like any breakup, it needs time.

Pacers fans would feel the same if they traded Haliburton, Suns fans would be in the same boat if they traded Booker. Just fans being fans.
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Post#816 » by kanofwindHK » Tue Jun 3, 2025 4:29 am

arkuo wrote:
kanofwindHK wrote:
Maverick41 wrote:Yeah I think so too. Probably needs to take out the 27 CHA FRP to make it even realistically.

I know Nico won't do this trade but it's my preferred direction of the team.

don't know why you those always rate AD so low, when healthy, he is a top 10 player in NBA, even better than healthy Irving. Now you trade AD away will not have an equal good player in return. Just sit and look at how AD play a full season then you will know how good he is. AD and Flagg will be the best 2 forward comb in the world, both in attack and def



Mavs fans feel AD is Otto Porter Jr. because a lot have a crush on Luka. So the trade feels like a breakup especially for the emotionally invested ones. It will pass eventually. Like any breakup, it needs time.

Pacers fans would feel the same if they traded Haliburton, Suns fans would be in the same boat if they traded Booker. Just fans being fans.

I know luka will always be in Mavs hero and trade away Luka is Nico fault, but there's not fault on AD. I am Irving fans but I also break my heart when Luka was traded, I cannot forgive Nico, but it is time to move on
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Post#817 » by arkuo » Tue Jun 3, 2025 5:01 am

kanofwindHK wrote:
arkuo wrote:
kanofwindHK wrote:don't know why you those always rate AD so low, when healthy, he is a top 10 player in NBA, even better than healthy Irving. Now you trade AD away will not have an equal good player in return. Just sit and look at how AD play a full season then you will know how good he is. AD and Flagg will be the best 2 forward comb in the world, both in attack and def



Mavs fans feel AD is Otto Porter Jr. because a lot have a crush on Luka. So the trade feels like a breakup especially for the emotionally invested ones. It will pass eventually. Like any breakup, it needs time.

Pacers fans would feel the same if they traded Haliburton, Suns fans would be in the same boat if they traded Booker. Just fans being fans.

I know luka will always be in Mavs hero and trade away Luka is Nico fault, but there's not fault on AD. I am Irving fans but I also break my heart when Luka was traded, I cannot forgive Nico, but it is time to move on



It's like your wife getting pregant by some other guy. The kid will always remind you it's not yours. AD is that bastard child for a lot of Mavs fans. So a lot want to tear it all down because it reminds them of how Nico ruined it. So you will see a lot of AD for Kelly Olynyk posts just because.
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Post#818 » by Teffer10 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 5:48 am

kanofwindHK wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:
Maverick41 wrote:Thanks for clarifying. My understanding is that WAS pick from NY is now top 8 protected, not lottery protected. Still unlikely but top 14 vs top 8 is pretty big. To be honest, both NY and PHX's draft availability situation confuses me which is why I kept it general in my initial proposal in this thread.

I don't disagree that we are owed more. AD has the highest value in this trade proposal in general. If we can exact another pick or 2 from both, that would be my preference.

I guess I'm vastly under valuing AD because he isnt worth 57+mil we owe him over the next few years. Hell, I'm close to putting him in the KP category when it comes to reliability.

And to think we will be relying on him to be our offensive catalist going into next season should make every Mavs fan cringe.

We should get what we can while we can before we end up having to resort to Dinwiddie/Bertan Davis type moves and include picks just to get rid of him.

KP is never in the same level close to AD in any one single day

We'll see about that.
AD has only had 2 seasons in the last 7 that he played more than 56 games...basically his prime years. If we get 50 games out of him next year it will be a miracle.

Last year he play a whopping 51 games and only 9 games for us which was about a 30% reliability.

I get the guy is a top 10 player when healthy but we don't need to go through another KP situation. Get rid of him while we can. His contract is a nightmare that will only get worse and we'll end up being forced to include picks just to get rid of him.

Nico is the dumbest Fick there could possibly be.
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Post#819 » by arkuo » Tue Jun 3, 2025 6:34 am

The most realistic thing is we just wait it out. AD and Kyrie will age and eventually walk away from the league. Then it will be Flagg and the tanking years begin so we can get lotto picks every year to build a team. Nico's not gonna leave this summer. Everyone will just have to wait it out. He leaves the same time as Kyrie and AD.

Duke somehow gets top talent in college. So when we start tanking it will most likely be getting Duke guys in. Soemone said Flagg is under team control for 7 or 8 years. So we have time.
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Post#820 » by Mavrelous » Tue Jun 3, 2025 8:08 am

Stein is reporting that Sweeney is no longer a candidate for the Suns.
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