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Post#261 » by Stannis » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:13 pm

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My gut tells me the decision to trade for Bridges was directly tied to Brunson signing a lesser contract.

Bridges is one of his closest friends, and they all dreamed of playing together in the NBA. I wouldn't be surprised if Brunson said, "Get me Bridges and I'll agree to a lower contract to help the salary cap."


I think the lesser contract has more to do with Brunson's dad. And also Jalen Brunson getting some kind of back loaded contract or MSG/Knick role later in life.

If it was about friendship(s), I'm not sure the Knicks would have traded DDV. And maybe they would have kept Ryan Arcidiacono lol.

Now, we are in an offseason where somebody like jHart could get traded. I believe Brunson was smart enough to realize his Nova friends aren't guaranteed to be here and it's not a valid reason to take less money.
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Post#262 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:31 pm

Context wrote:I love Kat but its time for him to look in the Mirror and CHALLENGE himself to take everything he does to the next level and at the very least FIX his weaknessess...


Karl needs to lose 15 pounds. Let's start there.
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Post#263 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:37 pm

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KnicksGadfly wrote:Okay I get this...but holy shyt, they had this article ready to go, right after the playoffs...wtf. That doesn't seem right.


Expect a lot more dirt to come out over the next 7 days.

We can go back to as far as Christmas...there was always something that felt amiss about this team.


Yeah, the guy you advocated bringing in!!!!!!!


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Post#264 » by Context » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:38 pm

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Context wrote:I love Kat but its time for him to look in the Mirror and CHALLENGE himself to take everything he does to the next level and at the very least FIX his weaknessess...


Karl needs to lose 15 pounds. Let's start there.

I layed out what type of program I would put Kat on...I missed the conditioning I think so thats a great point.

So:
1. Lose weight and build your endurance Kat- take boxing that will accomplish both.
2. 3 month boot camp with Hakeem. (Kat needs to expand his game; imagin Kat on the block with some Hakeem moves)
3. Hypnosis so he can stop all of those silly fouls.
4. Bring in a defensive TEAM and start from the beginning on learning Defense -the full spectrum.
5. Send your girlfriend and whoever she wants to go on a summer tour vacation.

Thats where I'm at Dollar but honestly I just dont think Kat is interested. Kat to me seems like the guy who knows what to say at
the moment. Does he really want a chip? Is he willing to humble himself and transform his game?
I dont think so...
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Post#265 » by HighRyzer83 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:39 pm

I believe Kat had a great season. Probably his best ever. He is arguably the 3rd or 4th best bigman in the game. But I would quickly trade him for Giannis if possible. And throw in Bridges ass in there too. They won't get a better deal than that for him.
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Post#266 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:40 pm

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JBreezeNY wrote:Also, also, if you plan on keeping everybody, KAT gotta come off the bench. Him and Brun don’t work together for long periods of time.

I would agree that they have poor synergy. It's mostly like they're taking turns. But I think it's pretty crazy that Towns gets all the blame for this and not the guy that is running the offense.

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Post#267 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:43 pm

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KnicksGadfly wrote:Okay I get this...but holy shyt, they had this article ready to go, right after the playoffs...wtf. That doesn't seem right.


Expect a lot more dirt to come out over the next 7 days.

We can go back to as far as Christmas...there was always something that felt amiss about this team.


Yeah, the guy you advocated bringing in!!!!!!!


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Well, I can't argue there.

Although I didn't advocate those 5 picks. That's all Leon!

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Post#268 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:48 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
Context wrote:I love Kat but its time for him to look in the Mirror and CHALLENGE himself to take everything he does to the next level and at the very least FIX his weaknessess...


Karl needs to lose 15 pounds. Let's start there.

I layed out what type of program I would put Kat on...I missed the conditioning I think so thats a great point.

So:
1. Lose weight and build your endurance Kat- take boxing that will accomplish both.
2. 3 month boot camp with Hakeem. (Kat needs to expand his game; imagin Kat on the block with some Hakeem moves)
3. Hypnosis so he can stop all of those silly fouls.
4. Bring in a defensive TEAM and start from the beginning on learning Defense -the full spectrum.
5. Send your girlfriend and whoever she wants to go on a summer tour vacation.

Thats where I'm at Dollar but honestly I just dont think Kat is interested. Kat to me seems like the guy who knows what to say at
the moment. Does he really want a chip? Is he willing to humble himself and transform his game?
I dont think so...


I think losing weight would help his lateral movement and quickness on rotations.

I don't think Hakeem would help KAT offensively. He's just so flat footed, Hakeem can't teach footwork, you either have it or you don't.

Have you seen his girlfriend? Good luck with that :lol: she is a certified baddie and I love that for him.
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Post#269 » by GEOLINK » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:53 pm

Context wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Context wrote:I love Kat but its time for him to look in the Mirror and CHALLENGE himself to take everything he does to the next level and at the very least FIX his weaknessess...


Karl needs to lose 15 pounds. Let's start there.

I layed out what type of program I would put Kat on...I missed the conditioning I think so thats a great point.

So:
1. Lose weight and build your endurance Kat- take boxing that will accomplish both.
2. 3 month boot camp with Hakeem. (Kat needs to expand his game; imagin Kat on the block with some Hakeem moves)
3. Hypnosis so he can stop all of those silly fouls.
4. Bring in a defensive TEAM and start from the beginning on learning Defense -the full spectrum.
5. Send your girlfriend and whoever she wants to go on a summer tour vacation.

Thats where I'm at Dollar but honestly I just dont think Kat is interested. Kat to me seems like the guy who knows what to say at
the moment. Does he really want a chip? Is he willing to humble himself and transform his game?
I dont think so...

oh my god imagine KAT taking boxing class lessons pictures

the faces he could make throwing punches :lol:
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Post#270 » by Capn'O » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:00 pm

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I'm not seeing it. A little help?

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Post#271 » by Context » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:01 pm

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Context wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Karl needs to lose 15 pounds. Let's start there.

I layed out what type of program I would put Kat on...I missed the conditioning I think so thats a great point.

So:
1. Lose weight and build your endurance Kat- take boxing that will accomplish both.
2. 3 month boot camp with Hakeem. (Kat needs to expand his game; imagin Kat on the block with some Hakeem moves)
3. Hypnosis so he can stop all of those silly fouls.
4. Bring in a defensive TEAM and start from the beginning on learning Defense -the full spectrum.
5. Send your girlfriend and whoever she wants to go on a summer tour vacation.

Thats where I'm at Dollar but honestly I just dont think Kat is interested. Kat to me seems like the guy who knows what to say at
the moment. Does he really want a chip? Is he willing to humble himself and transform his game?
I dont think so...

oh my god imagine KAT taking boxing class lessons pictures

the faces he could make throwing punches :lol:

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Post#272 » by Fat Kat » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:10 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Context wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Karl needs to lose 15 pounds. Let's start there.

I layed out what type of program I would put Kat on...I missed the conditioning I think so thats a great point.

So:
1. Lose weight and build your endurance Kat- take boxing that will accomplish both.
2. 3 month boot camp with Hakeem. (Kat needs to expand his game; imagin Kat on the block with some Hakeem moves)
3. Hypnosis so he can stop all of those silly fouls.
4. Bring in a defensive TEAM and start from the beginning on learning Defense -the full spectrum.
5. Send your girlfriend and whoever she wants to go on a summer tour vacation.

Thats where I'm at Dollar but honestly I just dont think Kat is interested. Kat to me seems like the guy who knows what to say at
the moment. Does he really want a chip? Is he willing to humble himself and transform his game?
I dont think so...


I think losing weight would help his lateral movement and quickness on rotations.

I don't think Hakeem would help KAT offensively. He's just so flat footed, Hakeem can't teach footwork, you either have it or you don't.

Have you seen his girlfriend? Good luck with that :lol: she is a certified baddie and I love that for him.


But we’ve seen this knucklehead play good defense in spurts. We’ve seen him both protect the rim and stay with guys on the perimeter. He’s capable, but will only do it every once in a while. That’s why his teammates get so pissed at him.
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Post#273 » by Context » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:21 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Context wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Karl needs to lose 15 pounds. Let's start there.

I layed out what type of program I would put Kat on...I missed the conditioning I think so thats a great point.

So:
1. Lose weight and build your endurance Kat- take boxing that will accomplish both.
2. 3 month boot camp with Hakeem. (Kat needs to expand his game; imagin Kat on the block with some Hakeem moves)
3. Hypnosis so he can stop all of those silly fouls.
4. Bring in a defensive TEAM and start from the beginning on learning Defense -the full spectrum.
5. Send your girlfriend and whoever she wants to go on a summer tour vacation.

Thats where I'm at Dollar but honestly I just dont think Kat is interested. Kat to me seems like the guy who knows what to say at
the moment. Does he really want a chip? Is he willing to humble himself and transform his game?
I dont think so...


I think losing weight would help his lateral movement and quickness on rotations.

I don't think Hakeem would help KAT offensively. He's just so flat footed, Hakeem can't teach footwork, you either have it or you don't.

Have you seen his girlfriend? Good luck with that :lol: she is a certified baddie and I love that for him.

Almost anything can be taught or even a variation will help. Kat uses his elbow as a crutch to get by guys. I am sure Hakeem can hep him.
As far as his girlfriend...She needs to understand that so much is on the line for Kat and HER future. If she cant he can always get another one.
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Post#274 » by Wildcat » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:32 pm

Context wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Context wrote:I love Kat but its time for him to look in the Mirror and CHALLENGE himself to take everything he does to the next level and at the very least FIX his weaknessess...


Karl needs to lose 15 pounds. Let's start there.

I layed out what type of program I would put Kat on...I missed the conditioning I think so thats a great point.

So:
1. Lose weight and build your endurance Kat- take boxing that will accomplish both.
2. 3 month boot camp with Hakeem. (Kat needs to expand his game; imagin Kat on the block with some Hakeem moves)
3. Hypnosis so he can stop all of those silly fouls.
4. Bring in a defensive TEAM and start from the beginning on learning Defense -the full spectrum.
5. Send your girlfriend and whoever she wants to go on a summer tour vacation.

Thats where I'm at Dollar but honestly I just dont think Kat is interested. Kat to me seems like the guy who knows what to say at
the moment. Does he really want a chip? Is he willing to humble himself and transform his game?
I dont think so...


What's the chances of any player semi-"reinventing" themselves at this age? He's a 10 year vet at this point. Is there anyone that changed their bad habits after being in the league for so long?
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Post#275 » by Context » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:37 pm

Wildcat wrote:
Context wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Karl needs to lose 15 pounds. Let's start there.

I layed out what type of program I would put Kat on...I missed the conditioning I think so thats a great point.

So:
1. Lose weight and build your endurance Kat- take boxing that will accomplish both.
2. 3 month boot camp with Hakeem. (Kat needs to expand his game; imagin Kat on the block with some Hakeem moves)
3. Hypnosis so he can stop all of those silly fouls.
4. Bring in a defensive TEAM and start from the beginning on learning Defense -the full spectrum.
5. Send your girlfriend and whoever she wants to go on a summer tour vacation.

Thats where I'm at Dollar but honestly I just dont think Kat is interested. Kat to me seems like the guy who knows what to say at
the moment. Does he really want a chip? Is he willing to humble himself and transform his game?
I dont think so...


What's the chances of any player semi-"reinventing" themselves at this age? He's a 10 year vet at this point. Is there anyone that changed their bad habits after being in the league for so long?

It's not about the age...its about having an open mind...having belief and knowing HOW to do it.
We are all programmable at almost any age.
KAT is 29...I know fans like to think that thats old but its far from old...
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Wildcat wrote:
Context wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Karl needs to lose 15 pounds. Let's start there.

I layed out what type of program I would put Kat on...I missed the conditioning I think so thats a great point.

So:
1. Lose weight and build your endurance Kat- take boxing that will accomplish both.
2. 3 month boot camp with Hakeem. (Kat needs to expand his game; imagin Kat on the block with some Hakeem moves)
3. Hypnosis so he can stop all of those silly fouls.
4. Bring in a defensive TEAM and start from the beginning on learning Defense -the full spectrum.
5. Send your girlfriend and whoever she wants to go on a summer tour vacation.

Thats where I'm at Dollar but honestly I just dont think Kat is interested. Kat to me seems like the guy who knows what to say at
the moment. Does he really want a chip? Is he willing to humble himself and transform his game?
I dont think so...


What's the chances of any player semi-"reinventing" themselves at this age? He's a 10 year vet at this point. Is there anyone that changed their bad habits after being in the league for so long?


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Wildcat wrote:
Context wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Karl needs to lose 15 pounds. Let's start there.

I layed out what type of program I would put Kat on...I missed the conditioning I think so thats a great point.

So:
1. Lose weight and build your endurance Kat- take boxing that will accomplish both.
2. 3 month boot camp with Hakeem. (Kat needs to expand his game; imagin Kat on the block with some Hakeem moves)
3. Hypnosis so he can stop all of those silly fouls.
4. Bring in a defensive TEAM and start from the beginning on learning Defense -the full spectrum.
5. Send your girlfriend and whoever she wants to go on a summer tour vacation.

Thats where I'm at Dollar but honestly I just dont think Kat is interested. Kat to me seems like the guy who knows what to say at
the moment. Does he really want a chip? Is he willing to humble himself and transform his game?
I dont think so...


What's the chances of any player semi-"reinventing" themselves at this age? He's a 10 year vet at this point. Is there anyone that changed their bad habits after being in the league for so long?


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Trading every pick for Bridges is what's going to hold the Knicks back imho,


My gut tells me the decision to trade for Bridges was directly tied to Brunson signing a lesser contract.

Bridges is one of his closest friends, and they all dreamed of playing together in the NBA. I wouldn't be surprised if Brunson said, "Get me Bridges and I'll agree to a lower contract to help the salary cap."


Maybe. I'm going to give Brunson the benefit of the doubt, he seems like a thoughtful smart guy who grew up around the league. He may have said we should get him, but to believe the threat was if we don't get him I'm demanding the max and hobbling the ability to improve seem unlikely. Again, getting Bridges on his contract was not the deathknell of this roster. It's effectively giving up SEVEN 1st round picks in an auction against no other bidders.

" 2025 1st round draft pick, a 2025 1st round draft pick, a 2025 2nd round draft pick, a 2027 1st round draft pick, a 2028 1st round draft pick, a 2029 1st round draft pick and a 2031 1st round draft pick. "

we effectively gave up Grimes in the deal ... a rotation 1st rounder. I can't fathom there was a 3 pick offer out there given Bridges was coming off a career worst year. CAA has no negotiating skills among teams, they just do what benefits the players.
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Post#279 » by Ghetto Gospel » Tue Jun 3, 2025 3:14 am

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Context wrote:I love Kat but its time for him to look in the Mirror and CHALLENGE himself to take everything he does to the next level and at the very least FIX his weaknessess...


Karl needs to lose 15 pounds. Let's start there.


brunson too while we're at it
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Re: Knicks players and coaches frustrated with KAT 

Post#280 » by Context » Tue Jun 3, 2025 3:33 am

Ghetto Gospel wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Context wrote:I love Kat but its time for him to look in the Mirror and CHALLENGE himself to take everything he does to the next level and at the very least FIX his weaknessess...


Karl needs to lose 15 pounds. Let's start there.


brunson too while we're at it


This was what I said Brunson needed:
Brunson:
1.Link up with Kyrie and improve your ball handling. Period.
2. Build up your endurance.
3. Take your strength and conditioning to the next level. I recommend boxing.
4. Play with your core for the summer.
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