Breaking: Tom Fired

[Jeff Van Gully]

josh hart is now extremely tradable

oh, errbody can go.

firing thibs couldn't be a clearer message about accountability.

Jalen is the only safe one.

****. is he?

[knicksstuff]

Just please do not hire Mike Malone

[MrDollarBills]

Im turning soft as hell cause this sht has me a lil sad. I actually fcked with the guy. He was married to the game. Really wish it would have worked out here for him. That game 1 collapse was his downfall.
I know most here are stoked. But Im a lil leary about the change. We were an insane bounce from a game 7 ecf game at home with thibs. But I do think thibs shtick of inspiration has a shelf life and was prolly expired.

You're not soft for having empathy for Tom, Guano. I feel bad for him because this job was everything to him.

Yeah he's owed 30mil but man when you lose something you love, it can destroy you. I hope he will be alright mentally.

For sure. I'm not cheering. This guy meant a lot to the franchise and the franchise meant a lot to him.

I believe there are HCs out there that can bring more to this group but we have to get one and it has to work. There's a mountain of work yet to come.

Yeah this isn't something to celebrate honestly. I can only speak for myself.

I just feel like what I saw from Tom the last two years and this year...something was wrong man. I dunno how else to say it.

[8516knicks]

Im turning soft as hell cause this sht has me a lil sad. I actually fcked with the guy. He was married to the game. Really wish it would have worked out here for him. That game 1 collapse was his downfall.
I know most here are stoked. But Im a lil leary about the change. We were an insane bounce from a game 7 ecf game at home with thibs. But I do think thibs shtick of inspiration has a shelf life and was prolly expired.

You're not soft for having empathy for Tom, Guano. I feel bad for him because this job was everything to him.

Yeah he's owed 30mil but man when you lose something you love, it can destroy you. I hope he will be alright mentally.

Yeah, he loved this sht with everything. It was his true passion and im glad that he was able to live his dream job and taking us to the ecf was one of the greatest experiencing I've had watching this team. his "shortcomings" and "ffailures" lead to his demise here but his overall tenure should be celebrated. He is a knicks legend.

And yeah I hope he finds peace. He fcking deserves it.

But thinking it over a bit more, maybe the new contract last year was his payoff and grateful thanks to him. And they also gave him this season to see if he could make his dream come true. Altogether, he'll be just fine. Do hope they keep him in some capacity.

[The KnicksFix]

these non sequitirs, man. so hard to follow.

What’s so hard to follow? He made the wrong adjustment specifically in game 2 of the series against the pacers
I can’t be any clearer than that

The job was not lost in game 1 when we blew the lead
Or even game 4 where he didn’t play delon and shamet (even though he played them in game 3 and won)

HIS JOB WAS LOST WHEN HE LOST THAT FOURTH QUARTER IN A WINNABLE GAME IN FRONT OF KINCKS BRASS AND DOLAN

I said it then, and that was the rumbling as to why he was fired

do you know what a non sequitir is?

a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement
Unless I am mis interpreting what you are trying to say as I’m explaining what was the tipping point to lose his job

[TheGreenArrow]

I trust Leon Rose. I knew he wouldn’t let the relationship
stop him from whacking Thibs as long as he felt that’s what stood between us potentially winning a ring.

Also, now Shams looks like he’s lost a lil credibility since he reported Knicks were locked in with Thibs and instead reevaluating the roster.

Bke 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[F N 11]

Win now likely Mike Malone who got Jokic and Murray to win a chip together and play well together. When he had defenders he was good. They left him with nobodies.

[MrDollarBills]

Respectfully im done witht he nova sht.

Keep jay wright away from the knicks pls

josh hart is now extremely tradable

oh, errbody can go.

firing thibs couldn't be a clearer message about accountability.

This should be a wake up call for everyone under contract.

[Jeff Van Gully]

What’s so hard to follow? He made the wrong adjustment specifically in game 2 of the series against the pacers
I can’t be any clearer than that

The job was not lost in game 1 when we blew the lead
Or even game 4 where he didn’t play delon and shamet (even though he played them in game 3 and won)

HIS JOB WAS LOST WHEN HE LOST THAT FOURTH QUARTER IN A WINNABLE GAME IN FRONT OF KINCKS BRASS AND DOLAN

I said it then, and that was the rumbling as to why he was fired

do you know what a non sequitir is?

a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement
Unless I am mis interpreting what you are trying to say?

that's it.

so, we were talking about coaching candidates... and then...

[Iron Mantis]

I don't really feel bad for him. He had every opportunity to change and he didn't want to... He'll be okay with his 50 million bucks.

However I feel bad for his victims...

Leon has avenged the blood of so many homegrown youngins and the embryos of aborted draft picks that Tom didn't want on the roster.

[8516knicks]

Respectfully im done witht he nova sht.

Keep jay wright away from the knicks pls

josh hart is now extremely tradable

oh, errbody can go.

firing thibs couldn't be a clearer message about accountability.

Accountability? If making the conference final and losing is a firing offense there should be 28 new head coaches next year.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

I will say this again, many of you place too much responsibility on the coach, and again, Thibs was far from perfect, but when you watch Brunson and KAT come up small, you watch the struggles they had especially with KaT and his brain lapses on defense, you see the lack of shooting, the lack of another ball handler to help Brunson out, to see a team without the athletes to keep up with the pacers. Again, to blame the coach for the loss roster flaws is just flat out wrong. Again with ALL OF THAT SAID, I trust Leon and his decision making. I am disappointed Thibs is gone, but I WILL
KEEP SAYING THIS, a new coach WILL NOT FIX THE ROSTER FLAWS..but now this is step one, i will keep saying this a new coach deserves to not have KAT and brunson..at least give the new coach a chance

I agree with a lot of the sentiment. However in this case the coach was responsible for the quite decent bench not being used and/or developed properly. Live by inflexibly grinding 52 wins a season with the starters all playing over 40 minutes a game/die by it. Even without talking about the actual plays and so on.

Decent bench? Really?

Yeah. Your bench begins with Mitch - the best rim protector and the best offensive rebounder in the NBA, and Deuce, who we, I think all agree is a good POA defender, albeit not at Frank levels, and an OK 3pt shooter - a worse version of Michael Cooper, but not so much worse, and Delon Wright, who is a proven 7th player in playoffs. And Shamet isn't too shabby.

Even without getting into the under-used and under-developed rookies. Or Precious.


Yes. The Knick's bench is certainly in the top 8 of the league. Which is where their starting line up is.

[DaGawd]

oh, errbody can go.

firing thibs couldn't be a clearer message about accountability.

Jalen is the only safe one.

****. is he?

honestly with the ruthlessness of some of leon’s moves.. wouldn’t be surprised if brunson got moved off he got us back a top 5 player

[The KnicksFix]

josh hart is now extremely tradable

oh, errbody can go.

firing thibs couldn't be a clearer message about accountability.

This should be a wake up call for everyone under contract.

Unless it’s Jay wright, at which point we keep Hart and add Donte

[aq_ua]

oh, errbody can go.

firing thibs couldn't be a clearer message about accountability.

Jalen is the only safe one.

****. is he?

The front office certainly could conclude two weak defenders in the starting line up is unworkable, and JB has a lot more trade value than KAT due to his contract. It’s a serious roster question.

[The KnicksFix]

do you know what a non sequitir is?

a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement
Unless I am mis interpreting what you are trying to say?

that's it.

so, we were talking about coaching candidates... and then...

I was talking about the reason he got fired lol

[DaGawd]

oh, errbody can go.

firing thibs couldn't be a clearer message about accountability.

This should be a wake up call for everyone under contract.

Unless it’s Jay wright, at which point we keep Hart and add Donte

jay wright ain’t coming out of retirement for this ****

[Guano]

We calling KAT a coach killer yet?

[Jeff Van Gully]

josh hart is now extremely tradable

oh, errbody can go.

firing thibs couldn't be a clearer message about accountability.

Accountability? If making the conference final and losing is a firing offense there should be 28 new head coaches next year.

heard. felt.

i think there were some things that transpired in the pacers series that might have been rubicon-ish.

[MrDollarBills]

You're not soft for having empathy for Tom, Guano. I feel bad for him because this job was everything to him.

Yeah he's owed 30mil but man when you lose something you love, it can destroy you. I hope he will be alright mentally.

Yeah, he loved this sht with everything. It was his true passion and im glad that he was able to live his dream job and taking us to the ecf was one of the greatest experiencing I've had watching this team. his "shortcomings" and "ffailures" lead to his demise here but his overall tenure should be celebrated. He is a knicks legend.

And yeah I hope he finds peace. He fcking deserves it.

But thinking it over a bit more, maybe the new contract last year was his payoff and grateful thanks to him. And they also gave him this season to see if he could make his dream come true. Altogether, he'll be just fine. Do hope they keep him in some capacity.

I'm sure the money helps, but from what I know, it's just Tom and his mom right? No family otherwise and he lived in the gym...

I hope dude is alright. I want to win, I want to see NYC burned to the ground out celebrating a championship, but hey. I hope the man will be alright.