Shams: New York Knicks Fire Head Coach Tom Thibodeau

[The KnicksFix]

Lead the Knicks to their first ECF in 25 years, get rid of this guy.

The goal is the ring, not to just go thru the East

[tamaraw08]

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If this true what are the chances the Knicks go with a young coach like Jared Dudley. He worked with Brunson on the Mavs staff and the players love him. Former player too of course.

I would love for the Knicks to think out of the box a bit here, like the Grizzlies did with coach Iisalo. They had the balls to pick up a young euro coach with a superb coaching resume (but with no NBA coaching experience), and even to promote him to head coach position during his first year with Memphis. I expect him to do great things for that organization and one can just hope the Knicks would find their own Iisalo.

Nobody knows really if Memphis did the right thing, at least not yet imo.
Kokoskov didn’t exactly do great in Phoenix, where is David Blatt now?
Who is that coach in Toronto again?
Wasn’t Fred Hoiberg supposedly bring his revolutionary schemes to Chicago?

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

He was running players into the ground and he struggled to find a working lineup in the pacers series. Carlisle out coached him

Carlisle outcoachs most coaches.

There are very few actual difference makers when it comes to coaches and Carlisle is one of them.

[ArksNetsSince99]

You didn't watch every game over the last few years like us die hard Knicks fans did. The guy can't adjust on the fly, has antiquated outdated plays, buried the bench the entire year, and role player types in the league have been saying they would never sign with NY because Thibs would never give them any burn. Even retired players on Podcasts are talking about how old school and outdated his coaching is. Any above average coach in this league could have got this squad to the ECF's this year. Thibs did absolutely nothing in that game 1 loss when the Knicks were up 15 with a few minutes to go and blew it. No timeouts, nothing.

Without Thibs , Knicks will be a play in team next season , book it

He made them overachieving big time

Without Thibs, we would have won game 1 and possibly won the series against your Pacers. It didn't happen but you should feel lucky that Thibs is so inept.

No no no , if BRUNSON had just a tad more brain than the chicken ( chicken runs and shiт at the same time ) , Brunson had to run 10 more seconds with the ball not throwing bad pass to OG you would’ve won game 1

But let’s blame on the Thibs , it’s just so convenient, especially after he was let go

Your Point Guard lack the brain , not Thibs

[Enzo954]

Without Thibs , Knicks will be a play in team next season , book it

He made them overachieving big time

Without Thibs, we would have won game 1 and possibly won the series against your Pacers. It didn't happen but you should feel lucky that Thibs is so inept.

No no no , if BRUNSON had just a tad more brain than the chicken ( chicken runs and shiт at the same time ) , Brunson had to run 10 more seconds with the ball not throwing bad pass to OG you would’ve won game 1

But let’s blame on the Thibs , it’s just so convenient, especially after he was let go

Your Point Guard lack the brain , not Thibs

Whatever bro. Enjoy your victory because OKC will end your season.

[maverick_41]

Should have fired him after the Celtics series. Because he doesn't play Landry Shemet long enough.

[durden_tyler]

No other franchise will ever rehire Thibs right? How many old school coaches are left? Is he the last one? (Doc Rivers does not count )


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[gavran]

Take notes from the Bucks - you can fire a good coach in hopes of something better, and it's totally possible it does get better. But it's also super possible it gets colossally **** worse. Thankfully for Knicks fans, unlike the Bucks organization I don't think the current Knicks organization is ran by dudes who sniff paint.

The Knicks FO have been sniffing paint for majority of the past 2 decades.


Today's event is just another feather in their cap.

Didn't realize the current FO has been there for 20 years.

[BelgradeNugget]

This doesn't even make any sense. Malone lost the locker room which was clear as day.

This is like saying Lakers should have kept Darvin Ham because he got the Lakers to a conference finals.

People also forget about the firing of David Blatt after he got them to 1 finals and look how that worked out for Cleveland.

One thing that is true about Thibs until proven otherwise, his players get rundown or his teams flame out in the playoffs.

Definitely risky for NYC but if they do their due diligence, there are definitely upgrades out there.

Lakers didn't fire him weeks before the playoffs though. Moving on is one thing, but the timing was off with that firing. No way you can convince me he was not run out. Jokic definitely signed off on it.

Folks, I really don’t think players have any say in FO decisions. Not even Jordan could keep Phil from getting the boot. This is a weird narrative that fans get behind that X player influenced Y coach getting canned

Hey man, this poster (Optms) **** on Jokic any chance he has, it is clinical condition. Don't bother to get into any discussion with him, it can't work.

[kingr]

I don't think this was a good decision. He deserved to continue as head coach, at least another year.

To do what? He's been there 5 years. He's had bottom 5 bench MPG every season.

His offense has never been diverse.

You know what you're getting with Thibs, no point to waste another season.

So what? He's has successful seasons. 'waste' another season? If 2 wins away from the nba finals was a waste, what result wouldn't be a waste?

People act like if he used his bench it automatically means they make it to the finals or win a championship. Using his bench more could in fact, change nothing at all.

[coldfish]

Seen this play out before. Thibs gets the most out his scoring PGs and team defense. Pacers were just a better roster 1-12. They steamrolled the Bucks and Cavs. Might've had some benefit with opponent's injuries, but so did NYK with the Celtics.

The only silver lining is there are some good coaches available, but I don't think their personalities will be way different than Thibs'.

Its the circle of Thibodeau. He gets a mediocre team to overachieve. Fanbase and front office are convinced their mediocre players are really stars if they just had a more player friendly coach. Thibs gets fired. Team slides back to mediocrity or worse.

Fred Hoiberg is available. I wonder if the Knicks go that route.

It could be Hoiberg... or Phil after Collins. You've seen both sides of this.

Like you said, I have seen both sides of this. Knicks fans sound exactly like Bulls fans from 2014 or so claiming that their players are much better than they are if Thibs would just do XXX right. A lot of its a carbon copy with Thibs continually getting his PG to play way over his head (Rose, DJ Augustine, JLIII, NateRob and now Brunson).

Minnesota traded the Knicks KAT because he is a loser and as always, Thibs squeezed something out of him.

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/stats/_/name/ny/new-york-knicks

That's a 42 win team right there that just won 51 games and went to the conference finals. NY's problem against Indiana was its roster, not its coach.

[NoStatsGuy]

Without Thibs, we would have won game 1 and possibly won the series against your Pacers. It didn't happen but you should feel lucky that Thibs is so inept.

No no no , if BRUNSON had just a tad more brain than the chicken ( chicken runs and shiт at the same time ) , Brunson had to run 10 more seconds with the ball not throwing bad pass to OG you would’ve won game 1

But let’s blame on the Thibs , it’s just so convenient, especially after he was let go

Your Point Guard lack the brain , not Thibs

Whatever bro. Enjoy your victory because OKC will end your season.

hes a nets fan, trying to troll us all season. Hence the Pacers logo.

he wished his team could smell the playoffs

[Black Jack]

has Thibs ever answered why he overplays his starters?

[irfunk_]

Good move.

This team is much better than what Thibs was able to show. His tendency to overplay his core guys just doesn’t fit the modern game in 2025. Teams like the Pacers and OKC have proven that success comes from a strong 8-man rotation—something Thibs has never embraced.

To be fair, Thibs did help turn things around, but he’s not the coach to take this team to the next level. His rotation patterns and offensive schemes are outdated. Sure, KAT and Brunson aren’t elite defenders, but with OG, Bridges, and Hart on the wings, there's no excuse for how poor the team looked defensively. And offensively, aside from Hart, that core four has so much creative potential—yet Thibs could only manage Brunson isolations.

Every shortcoming the Knicks had could’ve been solved with better coaching.

Looking ahead, I hope the Knicks bring in a fresh, innovative coach. They’ve got a near-perfect starting five, and with flexibility around Robinson and Hart’s contracts, there’s still room to fine-tune the roster.

It can become a solid move depending on the new coach choice. I'm more hopeful about NYK now than before since they get rid of Thibs.

[Coach Carter]

Meanwhile Doc still has a job

[JujitsuFlip]

I don't think this was a good decision. He deserved to continue as head coach, at least another year.

To do what? He's been there 5 years. He's had bottom 5 bench MPG every season.

His offense has never been diverse.

You know what you're getting with Thibs, no point to waste another season.

So what? He's has successful seasons. 'waste' another season? If 2 wins away from the nba finals was a waste, what result wouldn't be a waste?

People act like if he used his bench it automatically means they make it to the finals or win a championship. Using his bench more could in fact, change nothing at all.

You don't trade all your picks and depth to call 2 games from the Finals 'successful'.

The clock is ticking, it's championship or bust. Thibs has never coached a team to the Finals, let alone won one.

Nothing with Thibs will change so it equals a waste, time to try something different before the Knicks become a 2nd apron team.

[Optms]

This doesn't even make any sense. Malone lost the locker room which was clear as day.

This is like saying Lakers should have kept Darvin Ham because he got the Lakers to a conference finals.

People also forget about the firing of David Blatt after he got them to 1 finals and look how that worked out for Cleveland.

One thing that is true about Thibs until proven otherwise, his players get rundown or his teams flame out in the playoffs.

Definitely risky for NYC but if they do their due diligence, there are definitely upgrades out there.

Lakers didn't fire him weeks before the playoffs though. Moving on is one thing, but the timing was off with that firing. No way you can convince me he was not run out. Jokic definitely signed off on it.

Folks, I really don’t think players have any say in FO decisions. Not even Jordan could keep Phil from getting the boot. This is a weird narrative that fans get behind that X player influenced Y coach getting canned

Reports stated that Dwight Howard was involved in the firing process of Stan Van Gundy. Who was the source? Stan Van Gundy himself which he was told directly from management.

That was just one case. Do your research at least.

[bronxknicksfan1]

I don't think this was a good decision. He deserved to continue as head coach, at least another year.

To do what? He's been there 5 years. He's had bottom 5 bench MPG every season.

His offense has never been diverse.

You know what you're getting with Thibs, no point to waste another season.

So what? He's has successful seasons. 'waste' another season? If 2 wins away from the nba finals was a waste, what result wouldn't be a waste?

People act like if he used his bench it automatically means they make it to the finals or win a championship. Using his bench more could in fact, change nothing at all.

He ran the worst starting lineups in the playoffs game after game until he was forced to adjust the lineup and his expand his rotation. Lo and behold, he ended winning a game when he did. And even then, he reverted back to what wasn’t working the next game.

[DimesandKnicks]

Lakers didn't fire him weeks before the playoffs though. Moving on is one thing, but the timing was off with that firing. No way you can convince me he was not run out. Jokic definitely signed off on it.

Folks, I really don’t think players have any say in FO decisions. Not even Jordan could keep Phil from getting the boot. This is a weird narrative that fans get behind that X player influenced Y coach getting canned

Reports stated that Dwight Howard was involved in the firing process of Stan Van Gundy. Who was the source? Stan Van Gundy himself which he was told directly from management.

That was just one case. Do your research at least.

Dwight Howard put his hand around Stan and said it wasn't true, maybe managment was lying. Again, considering the ego's that FO have I highly doubt that they're conceding to players and what they want, again, especially considering the greatest player of all time didn't get what he wanted.

And even if that's true, thats like...one example

[XTC]

Thibs is a coach with a short lifespan, sort of like Nick Nurse. Larry Brown was another guy like this.

They're brilliant coaches, but they're going to wear out their welcome relatively quickly. With the right team, they can definitely win a championship.

Props to Thibs, he changed the culture in that locker room, it was just time for him to go. He probably came to NY a couple seasons too early IMO.