Hamsterdam (Ex-players, s***posts, beef, etc.) Continued

[Guano]

meLo is the escapegoat cause everyone does the same sht he does. He is just better at it.

He runs his mouth and talks sht at an exceptional level. The same which is going on in the thibs being canned thread. One of the main difference is meLo just stands alone. He has horrible taste, besides his love of lard filled chocolate wafer cookies.

Anyways, I hope he isnt banned but if the other option is he is in a diabetic coma Im rooting for the former. And will most likely join him in the near future cause ill be damned if I read a ts to talk about knicks hoops with you heathens.

Nah, he definitely doesn't stand alone, the most subtle thing here is that sham uses him as his attack dog. Look at how many times meLo says "me and sham" in his posts, but sham moves in silence and almost never says "me and meLo", he understands how to move like a proper villain, he'll get meLo all charged up and then vanish from the thread while meLo takes all the heat.

If anything, meLo should look at those around him that feed into his suspensions, sham never gets suspended, because he has a fall guy. Follow the money.

Say less - Im in for blaming sham

meLo is a victim!

Sham is corrupting the youth!

[god shammgod]

meLo is the escapegoat cause everyone does the same sht he does. He is just better at it.

He runs his mouth and talks sht at an exceptional level. The same which is going on in the thibs being canned thread. One of the main difference is meLo just stands alone. He has horrible taste, besides his love of lard filled chocolate wafer cookies.

Anyways, I hope he isnt banned but if the other option is he is in a diabetic coma Im rooting for the former. And will most likely join him in the near future cause ill be damned if I read a ts to talk about knicks hoops with you heathens.

Nah, he definitely doesn't stand alone, the most subtle thing here is that sham uses him as his attack dog. Look at how many times meLo says "me and sham" in his posts, but sham moves in silence and almost never says "me and meLo", he understands how to move like a proper villain, he'll get meLo all charged up and then vanish from the thread while meLo takes all the heat.

If anything, meLo should look at those around him that feed into his suspensions, sham never gets suspended, because he has a fall guy. Follow the money.

Say less - Im in for blaming sham

meLo is a victim!

Sham is corrupting the youth!

i didn't make him fat

[Guano]

Nah, he definitely doesn't stand alone, the most subtle thing here is that sham uses him as his attack dog. Look at how many times meLo says "me and sham" in his posts, but sham moves in silence and almost never says "me and meLo", he understands how to move like a proper villain, he'll get meLo all charged up and then vanish from the thread while meLo takes all the heat.

If anything, meLo should look at those around him that feed into his suspensions, sham never gets suspended, because he has a fall guy. Follow the money.

Say less - Im in for blaming sham

meLo is a victim!

Sham is corrupting the youth!

i didn't make him fat

tru - you even took the time and effort into shaming him into a better way of life only for the mods to ban him before the miracle happened.

rip meLo.

Know we cared and tried saving you from heart disease only for mp to kill you.

[Kampuchea]

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[Fury]

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Reported.

[Kampuchea]

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Reported.

[god shammgod]

Say less - Im in for blaming sham

meLo is a victim!

Sham is corrupting the youth!

i didn't make him fat

tru - you even took the time and effort into shaming him into a better way of life only for the mods to ban him before the miracle happened.

rip meLo.

Know we cared and tried saving you from heart disease only for mp to kill you.

i used to like the old days when it actually said suspended or banned under your name. now it's this big mystery where realgm is like the ccp and people just disappear and you're not supposed to ask questions

[Deeeez Knicks]

i didn't make him fat

tru - you even took the time and effort into shaming him into a better way of life only for the mods to ban him before the miracle happened.

rip meLo.

Know we cared and tried saving you from heart disease only for mp to kill you.

i used to like the old days when it actually said suspended or banned under your name. now it's this big mystery where realgm is like the ccp and people just disappear and you're not supposed to ask questions

Disappear in the vacants of realgm

[matchman]

i didn't make him fat

tru - you even took the time and effort into shaming him into a better way of life only for the mods to ban him before the miracle happened.

rip meLo.

Know we cared and tried saving you from heart disease only for mp to kill you.

i used to like the old days when it actually said suspended or banned under your name. now it's this big mystery where realgm is like the ccp and people just disappear and you're not supposed to ask questions

And hidden cams everywhere?

[Reign23]

Nah sham this ain't about "people disagreeing with basketball opinions" and more about the constant antagonizing, trolling, and overall how it's destroyed the quality posts on this board. This board used to have a mix of everything, a little bit of trolling, but mostly was a great place to talk and discuss basketball opinions. Over the last 3-4 years the board has deteriorated due to certain posters adopting this "new style" of posting in which it's just constant antagonizing, lying about others, and just overall not debating basketball in good faith which has lead to many long time members not wanting to deal with or read or post on the board any longer.

You're kinda missing the point of you believe people are upset about being called "a bitch" or whatever simplification you're trying to do here. All of us can handle being called that not a big deal, it's the overall toxicity, and ruining of the community due to certain groups constant antagonizing and just bad faith arguments that is the issue. When certain posters are happy to see the Knicks lose in the ECF just so they can come to the board and dance around and say I told you so I told you so and just make false bad faith arguments pretending to be innocent then it's an issue. We want Knicks fans here to discuss Knicks basketball, not trolls here looking to exploit every situation, they're not Knicks fans at that point.

And obviously the mods agree hence the new standards they're going to uphold and they admitted that they need to step up and they dropped the ball on how bad it's gotten so good on them. I appreciate their efforts as the jobs not paid obviously, but it is part of the job they're volunteering for which is a choice.

As far as the PMing goes that is what the mods instructed others to do instead of getting into it with posters so they're only following what the protocol is.

Hope that clears this up for you brother I look forward to RGM Knicks getting back to quality posts and good vibes instead of whatever's been going on the last 3-4 years unfiltered trolling.

just put melo on ignore. see how simple that is. then you won't interact with him. why do you need him gone completely if you don't talk to him anymore ? and if the mods feel it's time for him to go he'll be gone. they don't really need help figuring this stuff out.

I never said I need him gone? It's not about putting someone on ignore, not sure why you're missing the point or if you're doing it on purpose.

Obviously the mods agree that the behavior of certain posters was ruining the quality of the board and are in agreement so they are trying to bring back the quality posts that once used to be here instead of the constant BS trolling. Majority of the board is tired of the nonsense and was waiting for mods to step up and handle it, they admitted they dropped the ball and now are fixing it thankfully. When you're losing quality posters and long time members due to a small group of people's actions then it's a problem. I would rather 5 good insightful posters who debate in good faith over 10 trolls

There's obviously a massive difference between the once Gallo/Chandler wars and what's been going on the last 3-4 years. So it's not about difference in opinion.

a little late to the party, but I couldn't agree more here.

[Reign23]

the mavs got daniel gafford for 1 okc first for 2024 which was damn near a 2nd. even if you think that he's only 80 percent of ihart that would have been good enough to hold us over. anyway. what's done is done. they'll have to figure out how to fix this team with limited assets to do so.

The KAT trade saved our season after we made the Mikal trade.

Of course you can revisit the offseason entirely and holistically and make a case for not trading for Towns.

If we had traded 5 firsts for Towns, I'd have said it's an awful trade. But we didn't trade 5 firsts for Towns, we traded Randle, DiVincenzo and a middling first. The two are not the same.

If you'd offered Randle, Divo and that first for Mikal, the Nets would've laughed at you. And Mikal is half the player that Towns is.

The KAT trade was an opportunistic trade, that made the most out of a bad situation.

And the reason we can't get Giannis or another game-changer now (or even your replacement center) isn't the Towns deal. It's the Mikal deal.

that is some quality post.

[rajajackal]

damn i had a lot of catching up to do lol

i essentially grew up on message boards so i really do have a hard time relating to people wanting the entertaining posters gone as if that improves the quality of the forum?

[BKlutch]

A MODEST PROPOSAL:

Before banning posters, take the first step of confining them to only posting on this thread. They aren't allowed to post anywhere else on RealGM. Others can come here and torment them at will. Then rename this thread, "Purgatorio."

If they don't do well here, send 'em to hell.

Spoiler:

In the spirit of the orginal "Modest Proposal"

[Im Coming Home]

damn i had a lot of catching up to do lol

i essentially grew up on message boards so i really do have a hard time relating to people wanting the entertaining posters gone as if that improves the quality of the forum?

To answer your question, for me personally

Entertainment=/= trolling, antagonizing, always arguing in bad faith, lying about other posters, etc

There's been plenty of entertaining posters that didn't ruin the culture of the board and make it constantly toxic.

I think there's a pretty clear difference personally.

[rajajackal]

damn i had a lot of catching up to do lol

i essentially grew up on message boards so i really do have a hard time relating to people wanting the entertaining posters gone as if that improves the quality of the forum?

To answer your question, for me personally

Entertainment=/= trolling, antagonizing, always arguing in bad faith, lying about other posters, etc

There's been plenty of entertaining posters that didn't ruin the culture of the board and make it constantly toxic.

I think there's a pretty clear difference personally.

but now the board is less entertaining for others who aren't so sensitive. i think if it bothers you, you should ignore the poster and then everyone wins. but by getting them banned, now others who enjoyed the content are deprived of the option. if i could have it my way people that didn't like melo would just fight back and nobody on either side would be punished. the only time i think moderation is even necessary is when weirdos start getting tough and asking people to PM their addresses

[FrozenEnvelope]

Isn't melo like 15? I wouldn't be so hard on him. We were all like that at that age.

[Im Coming Home]

damn i had a lot of catching up to do lol

i essentially grew up on message boards so i really do have a hard time relating to people wanting the entertaining posters gone as if that improves the quality of the forum?

To answer your question, for me personally

Entertainment=/= trolling, antagonizing, always arguing in bad faith, lying about other posters, etc

There's been plenty of entertaining posters that didn't ruin the culture of the board and make it constantly toxic.

I think there's a pretty clear difference personally.

but now the board is less entertaining for others who aren't so sensitive. i think if it bothers you, you should ignore the poster and then everyone wins. but by getting them banned, now others who enjoyed the content are deprived of the option. if i could have it my way people that didn't like melo would just fight back and nobody on either side would be punished. the only time i think moderation is even necessary is when weirdos start getting tough and asking people to PM their addresses

Brother I think you're looking at this the wrong way.

I am not sensitive, I've been in the internet a long time and dealt with plenty of trolling, arguing, etc, arguing in bad faith gets very tiring to read after awhile. There's no "winning" an argument with someone who is constantly arguing in bad faith, moviing goal posts and when all else fails, lying about posters whenever they are infact "losing" and argument. It clearly wasn't leading to anything positive on the board, and was causing a ton of long time members to stop posting and cause actual insight to be lost.

There's a difference between being "sensitive" and not wanting to deal with people acting like straight up children just to get a rise out of people.

As far as Melo goes I don't think he's banned permanently but who knows, and he wasn't the only one who would act in the way I'm describing, and if it he is, it's not like it wouldn't be warranted. I'm the only one really speaking in the matter but we all know there's a lot more posters who feel the same way on the issue. And also those who were just tired of it and up and left the board. It's been going on for 3-4, years now, multiple big arguments, etc.

RealGM Knicks is not in a spot where we can afford to allow trolls to take over, create a toxic environment and cause people to leave, and/or cause potential new posters to not want to bother coming here to post. It's unlikely this next generation is going to want to post about Knicks on message boards like this one so to cause the old heads who have been here for a decade or more to not wanna be here is not the move. It boils down to it being immature not being sensitive, the only people who tend to troll to that level that it causes that level of toxicity are people who are immature

I'm done with the victim blaming going on in this thread. Time to reflect on people's actions and the toxicity they created here instead.

[rajajackal]

To answer your question, for me personally

Entertainment=/= trolling, antagonizing, always arguing in bad faith, lying about other posters, etc

There's been plenty of entertaining posters that didn't ruin the culture of the board and make it constantly toxic.

I think there's a pretty clear difference personally.

but now the board is less entertaining for others who aren't so sensitive. i think if it bothers you, you should ignore the poster and then everyone wins. but by getting them banned, now others who enjoyed the content are deprived of the option. if i could have it my way people that didn't like melo would just fight back and nobody on either side would be punished. the only time i think moderation is even necessary is when weirdos start getting tough and asking people to PM their addresses

Brother I think you're looking at this the wrong way.

I am not sensitive, I've been in the internet a long time and dealt with plenty of trolling, arguing, etc, arguing in bad faith gets very tiring to read after awhile. There's no "winning" an argument with someone who is constantly arguing in bad faith, moviing goal posts and when all else fails, lying about posters whenever they are infact "losing" and argument. It clearly wasn't leading to anything positive on the board, and was causing a ton of long time members to stop posting and cause actual insight to be lost.

There's a difference between being "sensitive" and not wanting to deal with people acting like straight up children just to get a rise out of people.

As far as Melo goes I don't think he's banned permanently but who knows, and he wasn't the only one who would act in the way I'm describing, and if it he is, it's not like it wouldn't be warranted. I'm the only one really speaking in the matter but we all know there's a lot more posters who feel the same way on the issue. And also those who were just tired of it and up and left the board. It's been going on for 3-4, years now, multiple big arguments, etc.

RealGM Knicks is not in a spot where we can afford to allow trolls to take over, create a toxic environment and cause people to leave, and/or cause potential new posters to not want to bother coming here to post. It's unlikely this next generation is going to want to post about Knicks on message boards like this one so to cause the old heads who have been here for a decade or more to not wanna be here is not the move. It boils down to it being immature not being sensitive, the only people who tend to troll to that level that it causes that level of toxicity are people who are immature

I'm done with the victim blaming going on in this thread. Time to reflect on people's actions and the toxicity they created here instead.

i know sensitive sounds like an insulting word and i'm not trying to insult you or anyone else. i just think that a "victim" of melo's rabble rousing is inherently self-made. the only people he ever gets into with are the ones who get genuinely mad at his bait. don't feed the troll as they say. the rest of the people who engage with him are usually clowning him right back in a way that feels ultimately friendly. sham clowns melo, nodope clowns sham, guano erratically oscillates between love and violence, etc. lot of tongue-in-cheek lore stirs the tomfoolery but i assumed we were all in on the joke

nobody on here is a basketball genius, so while i do enjoy talking hoops in greater depth when we do, ultimately i'm here to hang out and have fun with an interesting cast of characters who love the same team as me

[spree8]

damn i had a lot of catching up to do lol

i essentially grew up on message boards so i really do have a hard time relating to people wanting the entertaining posters gone as if that improves the quality of the forum?

To answer your question, for me personally

Entertainment=/= trolling, antagonizing, always arguing in bad faith, lying about other posters, etc

There's been plenty of entertaining posters that didn't ruin the culture of the board and make it constantly toxic.

I think there's a pretty clear difference personally.

the only time i think moderation is even necessary is when weirdos start getting tough and asking people to PM their addresses

Ahh talking about me asking Hezi to meet up to see who’s in shape huh? Dunno how that’s weird… you wanna throw ignorant insults about someone you don’t know, take the invite. People talked about meeting up on here to ball for years, what’s the difference? See me on the court if you wanna talk that ish lol

[rajajackal]

To answer your question, for me personally

Entertainment=/= trolling, antagonizing, always arguing in bad faith, lying about other posters, etc

There's been plenty of entertaining posters that didn't ruin the culture of the board and make it constantly toxic.

I think there's a pretty clear difference personally.

the only time i think moderation is even necessary is when weirdos start getting tough and asking people to PM their addresses

Ahh talking about me asking Hezi to meet up to see who’s in shape huh? Dunno how that’s weird… you wanna throw ignorant insults about someone you don’t know, take the invite. People talked about meeting up on here to ball for years, what’s the difference? See me on the court if you wanna talk that ish lol

many different people have done that on here and other internet forums over the years. if you asked me who did it most recently i wouldn't be able to point you or the other guy out of a lineup