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Post#21 » by TheNetsFan » Thu Jun 5, 2025 4:08 am

louc1970 wrote:A good move for the Nets. Who are they targeting at 9? They need so much it will be either a specific player or BPA.

BPA. The roster is more or less empty right now. Fit doesn't matter.

Barrett did play under Jordi Fernandez for Team Canada, so there's a connection there as well.
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Post#22 » by mademan » Thu Jun 5, 2025 5:38 am

Add in a 26 for 39 swap, and i'd be open to it. But that's just more me not liking the lotto past 2. Not that big a fan of CamJo, but he clearly fits better.
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Post#23 » by DarkXaero » Thu Jun 5, 2025 3:05 pm

This would be a horrible deal from Brooklyn's end, a severe overpay. I don't buy this "rumor".
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Post#24 » by Mr Swagtastic » Thu Jun 5, 2025 3:34 pm

I don't get the direction for Toronto. Cam Johnson is good but unless Toronto strikes out on every rumoured big fish they are going after I don't see it.

Toronto has Poeltl, Barnes and BI as their C/PF/SF rotation and while Cam is good he doesn't take this team to anything more than a 7th-8th seed maybe worse. Toronto should just draft the BPA and pair them with the team.
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Post#25 » by PistolPeteJR » Thu Jun 5, 2025 3:57 pm

One_and_Done wrote:Brooklyn should do it. Hopefully they can rehab RJs value too, then swindle someone into taking him, but I doubt it.


21.1ppg on 54.7 TS%, 6.3rpg, 5.4apg at 24yo needs rehabbing?
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Post#26 » by One_and_Done » Thu Jun 5, 2025 8:36 pm

Low calory stats for a bad team.
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Post#27 » by Netaman » Thu Jun 5, 2025 8:43 pm

Mr Swagtastic wrote:I don't get the direction for Toronto. Cam Johnson is good but unless Toronto strikes out on every rumoured big fish they are going after I don't see it.

Toronto has Poeltl, Barnes and BI as their C/PF/SF rotation and while Cam is good he doesn't take this team to anything more than a 7th-8th seed maybe worse. Toronto should just draft the BPA and pair them with the team.


how about subbing barnes in for RJ? i dont know where that moves Toronto, but they get a 4 years younger better player, signed reasonably, for sliding back 10 spots in a draft where there are a lot prospects generally ranked across the board from 9-19.
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Post#28 » by Mr Swagtastic » Thu Jun 5, 2025 10:04 pm

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Mr Swagtastic wrote:I don't get the direction for Toronto. Cam Johnson is good but unless Toronto strikes out on every rumoured big fish they are going after I don't see it.

Toronto has Poeltl, Barnes and BI as their C/PF/SF rotation and while Cam is good he doesn't take this team to anything more than a 7th-8th seed maybe worse. Toronto should just draft the BPA and pair them with the team.


how about subbing barnes in for RJ? i dont know where that moves Toronto, but they get a 4 years younger better player, signed reasonably, for sliding back 10 spots in a draft where there are a lot prospects generally ranked across the board from 9-19.


That's absolutely worse. Brooklyn has zero assets to get Barnes. I wouldn't move Poeltl + 9, Quickley +9 and definitely not Barnes +9. Hell I wouldn't give Barnes for KD
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Post#29 » by alpngso » Fri Jun 6, 2025 12:39 am

RJ brings rim pressure to BKN, Cam brings shooting and spacing for the Raps. Needs and fits are there. Picks are there for value matching.

I think this is realistic. Esp if Raps use the multiple picks + Barnes to explore Giannis trade
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Post#30 » by Netaman » Fri Jun 6, 2025 2:41 am

Mr Swagtastic wrote:
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Mr Swagtastic wrote:I don't get the direction for Toronto. Cam Johnson is good but unless Toronto strikes out on every rumoured big fish they are going after I don't see it.

Toronto has Poeltl, Barnes and BI as their C/PF/SF rotation and while Cam is good he doesn't take this team to anything more than a 7th-8th seed maybe worse. Toronto should just draft the BPA and pair them with the team.


how about subbing barnes in for RJ? i dont know where that moves Toronto, but they get a 4 years younger better player, signed reasonably, for sliding back 10 spots in a draft where there are a lot prospects generally ranked across the board from 9-19.


That's absolutely worse. Brooklyn has zero assets to get Barnes. I wouldn't move Poeltl + 9, Quickley +9 and definitely not Barnes +9. Hell I wouldn't give Barnes for KD


didnt mean scottie, i was for some reason thinking you had harrison. been trade machining too many deals for #2 lately.
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Post#31 » by R-DAWG » Fri Jun 6, 2025 11:21 am

jayjaysee wrote:Sounds rude, but feels like Toronto just goes back to a worse version of the longboi trio they just moved away from.

I guess if they want, the value is close-ish getting to trim RJ’s contract some. But seems like breaking down an asset when they should be consolidating if they really want to stick with this group.


Frankly, a lot of Toronto’s moves have been very underwhelming.

What has essentially amounted to a Siakiam/Ingram swap wasn’t really an upgrade

At best Barrett/Quickely for Anunoby is a wash. Quickey is a nice player but ovarpaid at 35mm per year and Barrett’s going to have similar issues to his role in New York playing off Barnes/Ingram.

Not to mention giving up what amounted to a lottery pick for Poelti wasn’t exactly great.
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Post#32 » by jayjaysee » Fri Jun 6, 2025 12:26 pm

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jayjaysee wrote:Sounds rude, but feels like Toronto just goes back to a worse version of the longboi trio they just moved away from.

I guess if they want, the value is close-ish getting to trim RJ’s contract some. But seems like breaking down an asset when they should be consolidating if they really want to stick with this group.


Frankly, a lot of Toronto’s moves have been very underwhelming.

What has essentially amounted to a Siakiam/Ingram swap wasn’t really an upgrade

At best Barrett/Quickely for Anunoby is a wash. Quickey is a nice player but ovarpaid at 35mm per year and Barrett’s going to have similar issues to his role in New York playing off Barnes/Ingram.

Not to mention giving up what amounted to a lottery pick for Poelti wasn’t exactly great.


Not disagreeing. Toronto made some questionable decisions and has a mixed bag roster because of it. Some good pieces though and can retool it if they make good decisions.
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Re: TOR-BKN 

Post#33 » by oldncreaky » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:44 pm

jayjaysee wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:Sounds rude, but feels like Toronto just goes back to a worse version of the longboi trio they just moved away from.

I guess if they want, the value is close-ish getting to trim RJ’s contract some. But seems like breaking down an asset when they should be consolidating if they really want to stick with this group.


Frankly, a lot of Toronto’s moves have been very underwhelming.

What has essentially amounted to a Siakiam/Ingram swap wasn’t really an upgrade

At best Barrett/Quickely for Anunoby is a wash. Quickey is a nice player but ovarpaid at 35mm per year and Barrett’s going to have similar issues to his role in New York playing off Barnes/Ingram.

Not to mention giving up what amounted to a lottery pick for Poelti wasn’t exactly great.


Not disagreeing. Toronto made some questionable decisions and has a mixed bag roster because of it. Some good pieces though and can retool it if they make good decisions.



Agree

But I see the OP as potentially yet another questionable move (flawed Player + assets for flawed player) that doesn't address a couple of glaring roster holes (C/PF and PG). It would help shooting/spacing, but would sacrifice the only player on TOR who consistently pressures the rim (Barrett) and leave the line-up with only 1 player I'm certain to want to have in the closing line-up (Scottie Barnes). All the while, this shuffling of wings would still leave TOR weak in the paint, and shaky at the point.

TOR's recent success (2016-2020) was built on drafting and developing players. I think that's their best method of getting back to any relevance, and to do that, they should stop frittering away draft capital for minor improvements.
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Re: TOR-BKN 

Post#34 » by Troubadour » Fri Jun 6, 2025 6:50 pm

Not sure who on the Raptors roster can get two feet in the paint using their dribble if this trade goes through
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Re: TOR-BKN 

Post#35 » by Astaluego » Fri Jun 6, 2025 7:01 pm

louc1970 wrote:A good move for the Nets. Who are they targeting at 9? They need so much it will be either a specific player or BPA.

I think if you get the 10, they should add it to the 8 and some future FRP to try to move up for the 76ers' pick, which is rumored to be available.
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Re: TOR-BKN 

Post#36 » by TheNetsFan » Fri Jun 6, 2025 9:17 pm

Astaluego wrote:
louc1970 wrote:A good move for the Nets. Who are they targeting at 9? They need so much it will be either a specific player or BPA.

I think if you get the 10, they should add it to the 8 and some future FRP to try to move up for the 76ers' pick, which is rumored to be available.

I disagree. There's nobody at #3 that feels like a sure thing or that much better than who is available at #8. The Nets should draft multiple guys to build out a core group for the future. Maybe one develops into a star from that range the way Kawhi, Giannis, Hali, SGA, Booker, etc did. It's not the right time or draft class to go all in on a single prospect, unless that prospect is Flagg or maybe Harper. I could see that being a move next year, after drafting multiple rookies this year.

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