Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2

[whocares1]

Definitely starting to seem like Giannis to the Knicks is inevitable

Not a single sane person is thinking this lol.

[thebuzzardman]

Back to being a joke soon

[Red Vines]

I think we'll do everything to keep Brunson & OG while going after Giannis. From there we can figure out the rest.

[3eePointGoal]

Definitely starting to seem like Giannis to the Knicks is inevitable

Not a single sane person is thinking this lol.

This is the knicks forum. Do you expect any different?

[FrozenEnvelope]

How would a trade even work when we are a 2nd apron and they are a 1st apron? Every type of trade I tried doesn't work!

[whocares1]

KAT for Randle/Divo not a success...he was an all-star starter and all-nba,...what is Minny even going to get for Randle?

Knicks won one extra game. Gained a C who could shoot, lost offensive creativity at PF. The trade was a wash.

Don't want to derail this thread though.

No exec is going to be perfect Leon drafted Obi over Haliburton...

we are also a perennial +50 win team...everything in perspective of where we have been the last 20 or so years...

won one more game by basically losing there entire 48 minute center rotation (out of there control) for the entire season....gotta put some context behind it.

Plus Brunson missed like 15 games.

[JXL]

Knicks shouldn't entertain the idea of trading for Giannis. Not where their assets are.

KD is more doable, but I doubt they would do that too, unless KAT's involved.

[HEZI]

This can really backfire on Leon Rose if after all this smoke he fails to deliver Giannis. The Mikal trade could be the reason he doesn’t have the assets to get Giannis so that’s really going to sting for a long time

[Capn'O]

I miss Thibs. In 2yrs he could have passed JVG and Lapchick for 2nd on our all time coaching winners.

thibs kinda did himself in by being inflexible.

This is now another post season where he basically makes zero adjustments or changes during the regular season. Then when **** hits the fan he is forced/panics to make changes to the defense/rotations.

We still would have won a lot of games in the regular season but we could have experimented with different lineups. Not playing Deuce with the starters less Hart basically all year was the most damning...like he legit had a workable 5 out lineup and he basically never went to it. And deuce is our best POA defender...moves mikal and OG to robber spots...just mind numbing coaching if you ask me.

I'm well aware of Thibs' limitations. Given his strengths, dropping him for same olde Knicks type **** is not acceptable to me.

[Knicksfan1992]

People here underrate Giannis man. That's all I'm going to say. Both with what trade packages they're putting out and how much he will amplify both Brunson and KAT.

Giannis is the rare superstar who has the ability to do the dirty work but also put up 40 lol

[NoDopeOnSundays]

How would a trade even work when we are a 2nd apron and they are a 1st apron? Every type of trade I tried doesn't work!

You need a third team that would want Mikal or OG that would send assets to the Bucks as well.

[K_ick_God]

OG and Mitch for KD.

Brunson
Deuce - Mikal (flip them, starter and bench)
KD
KAT
Precious - Hukporti (flip them second half of the season?)

I don't think KD is the answer. But giving him one last shot to silence his critics at MSG sounds good to me. Chance they have to take I guess.

I'd rather keep Mitch and S&T Precious or something but I don't think that works salary wise. Or that Suns take it.

Antet. is not happening.

0g was bad. Really bad. Mikal was awful. I'd trade them both for KD even. Either/or and probably both. But we need some depth. In my above example, I think we'd still need to sign a key role player. Who I don't know.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

People here underrate Giannis man. That's all I'm going to say. Both with what trade packages they're putting out and how much he will amplify both Brunson and KAT.

Giannis is the rare superstar who has the ability to do the dirty work but also put up 40 lol

I don't understand how you guys can watch the league right now, see that depth matters even more now because of the aprons, and come away thinking Big 3s without a bunch of guys around them can still work.


If you were going to trade, KD actually makes more sense than Giannis.

[mpharris36]

I miss Thibs. In 2yrs he could have passed JVG and Lapchick for 2nd on our all time coaching winners.

thibs kinda did himself in by being inflexible.

This is now another post season where he basically makes zero adjustments or changes during the regular season. Then when **** hits the fan he is forced/panics to make changes to the defense/rotations.

We still would have won a lot of games in the regular season but we could have experimented with different lineups. Not playing Deuce with the starters less Hart basically all year was the most damning...like he legit had a workable 5 out lineup and he basically never went to it. And deuce is our best POA defender...moves mikal and OG to robber spots...just mind numbing coaching if you ask me.

I'm well aware of Thibs' limitations. Given his strengths, dropping him for same olde Knicks type **** is not acceptable to me.

I guess we should wait to see how the coaching search and offseason plays out until we specifically know the vision.

If the idea is basically fire thibs, hire Kidd, and run back the same team...I would have some concerns as well.

[Capn'O]

I love Giannis. I would love love love Giannis on the Knicks.

We do not have the proper pieces to acquire him without doing something stupid that leaves us unable to build around him.

[The Lamma]

Read on Twitter

If we hire Kidd it has to be with the stipulation that he drops the Mrs Doubtfire glasses. I can't look at those bitches for 82 games

[Zenzibar]

Definitely starting to seem like Giannis to the Knicks is inevitable

Not a single sane person is thinking this lol.

I know right? Where are people getting this crazy talk?

[FrozenEnvelope]

People here underrate Giannis man. That's all I'm going to say. Both with what trade packages they're putting out and how much he will amplify both Brunson and KAT.

Giannis is the rare superstar who has the ability to do the dirty work but also put up 40 lol

I love Giannis but adding him to play with Brunson and KAT and nothing else won't work. That trio would need elite spacing and defense.

[MrDollarBills]

Going after Giannis doesn't make sense to me because we need to include KAT to make the deal make sense financially, but in terms of roster construction you'd want a KAT type C next to Giannis

Cause KAT offensively is like a supercharged BroLo

And then because if you're not trading KAT, you need to trade Mitch for salary purposes, ideally you could convince BroLo to take whatever we can give him to come over here and be a backup and hopefully he teaches KAT how to rim protect cause he wasn't really good at that until his 30s

But I stick by what I said, we don't need Giannis, we just need better coaching, more chemistry, and a few tweaks to the bench.

I agree with this. Instead of breaking this team up for Giannis and becoming even more top heavy, why not add to this group?

[Barcs]

PG: Brunson
SG: Josh Hart
SF: Giannis
PF: KAT
C: Mitch

Lol

Do I puke now or wait until they go 30-52?