What would you give for Garland ?

adubmac · Post #161 » by **adubmac** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 9:36 pm

It looks like Garland wasn't in love with the idea of being traded, based on the timing of this news.

Battletrigger · Post #162 » by **Battletrigger** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:19 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
Battletrigger wrote:
Effigy wrote:
Agreed, but for what? If you can trade Randle for him, that's a home run, lol.

For the Cavs.

Trade gets a little big, but rosters are sure balanced…

To Nets: Barnes/#31

To Spurs: Gobert/Strus

To Cavs: Randle/Vassell/Dillingham/#17/Spurs future 1st

To Wolves: Garland/Allen

Mobley
Randle/#17
Hunter
Vassell/Okoro
Mitchell/Dillingham

Allen
Reid
McDaniels
Edwards
Garland

The main problem is that he is injury prone, only playing 70 or more in 1 season and 60 or more in 3.

Although, he is a poor defensive player and Wolves want to go from defence to offence. Particularly, I get tired of that Wolves teams fun to watch, with good offense and bad defense that lead to nowhere...

Sixers in 4 · Post #163 » by **Sixers in 4** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:27 pm

jbk1234 wrote:I feel like the chances of Garland getting traded any time in the near future are very low having just had that surgery. Trade partners will want a steep discount because they'll have to waive the physical and the Cavs are not going to agree to that.

The offer of PG still stands, lol

JujitsuFlip · Post #164 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:31 pm

Sixers in 4 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:I feel like the chances of Garland getting traded any time in the near future are very low having just had that surgery. Trade partners will want a steep discount because they'll have to waive the physical and the Cavs are not going to agree to that.

The offer of PG still stands, lol

Hahaha not legal as a 2nd apron team, thankfully.

Post #165 » by **Nuntius** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:51 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:This dude can’t stay healthy, Cleveland was smart to shop him. Hes there to stay now and subsequently this injury almost forces Cleveland to try to retain Jerome by all means necessary.

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This is not a new injury. He played through that injury in the playoffs.

DowJones · Post #166 » by **DowJones** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 11:05 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
Battletrigger wrote:
Effigy wrote:
Agreed, but for what? If you can trade Randle for him, that's a home run, lol.

For the Cavs.

Trade gets a little big, but rosters are sure balanced…

To Nets: Barnes/#31

To Spurs: Gobert/Strus

To Cavs: Randle/Vassell/Dillingham/#17/Spurs future 1st

To Wolves: Garland/Allen

Mobley
Randle/#17
Hunter
Vassell/Okoro
Mitchell/Dillingham

Allen
Reid
McDaniels
Edwards
Garland

This is awful for Cleveland.

JujitsuFlip · Post #167 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 11:35 pm

DowJones wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
Battletrigger wrote:
For the Cavs.

Trade gets a little big, but rosters are sure balanced…

To Nets: Barnes/#31

To Spurs: Gobert/Strus

To Cavs: Randle/Vassell/Dillingham/#17/Spurs future 1st

To Wolves: Garland/Allen

Mobley
Randle/#17
Hunter
Vassell/Okoro
Mitchell/Dillingham

Allen
Reid
McDaniels
Edwards
Garland

This is awful for Cleveland.

I wasn't going to say it but yeah that is terrible. Losing 3 starters and the 'prize' being 30 year old Randle is rough.

Eightnineborn · Post #168 » by **Eightnineborn** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 11:59 pm

I dont want Randle, I want a wing that can compliment Don, someone like a Trey Murphy. A long guy that can play 2/3… Don/Trey/Max/ DeAndre/ Evan…

Also would love to have a stretch 4 like a McDaniels… which would make the starting lineup even better… if we could flip Allen and DG for Trey and McDaniels… itd make a lot more sense… it will complement our two best players in the best possible way.

bdoody42 · Post #169 » by **bdoody42** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:03 am

Chokic wrote:Garland is a steve nash level player. Lakers and spurs should have pulled the trigger when they had the chance.

This has to be trolling right?

Post #170 » by **HMFFL** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:10 am

If Garland can shoot at the percentages from 2pt and 3pt like he did this season and average 20 attempts per game, he will have a great deal of value. 15.7 attempts per game this season.

His productivity can be replaced with much cheaper options.

The Cavs still need a superstar talent. Maybe Molbey can be it.

Otherwise, package Garland, and more to find the missing piece(s) the roster needs.

Sixers in 4 · Post #171 » by **Sixers in 4** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:14 am

I still think the best fit is OKC. They have the size where he wouldn't hurt them as much and are full of wings who can defend which would be attractive to Cle.

How about the bald eagle and Wiggins? Caruso would be a perfect fit next to Mitchell. Wiggins would give them a solid wing.

Post #172 » by **HMFFL** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:18 am

Sixers in 4 wrote:I still think the best fit is OKC. They have the size where he wouldn't hurt them as much and are full of wings who can defend which would be attractive to Cle.

How about the bald eagle and Wiggins?

Why would OKC want Garland's contract on their books? Garland being listed at 6'1" lacks appeal.

25/26 $39,446,090
26/27 $42,166,510
27/28 44,886,930

JujitsuFlip · Post #173 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:36 am

Eightnineborn wrote:I dont want Randle, I want a wing that can compliment Don, someone like a Trey Murphy. A long guy that can play 2/3… Don/Trey/Max/ DeAndre/ Evan…

Also would love to have a stretch 4 like a McDaniels… which would make the starting lineup even better… if we could flip Allen and DG for Trey and McDaniels… itd make a lot more sense… it will complement our two best players in the best possible way.

Hunter is a bench player and Strus really truly should come off the bench too, especially with Jerome and Merrill most likely walking this summer, if trades happened.

The roster is mostly set, i think the Cavs hold steady for 1 more season and hope Garland is healed by game 1.

Garland/#49 (big old college kid)/CPJ
Mitchell/Okoro
Strus/Hunter/Tyson
Mobley/Wade/Okeke
Allen/#58 old college kid, maybe can shoot

They always leave spot 15 open, so maybe see if Green will re-sign for the vet min or if not, finally try to find an actual vet min back-up 5. Or knowing Koby they waste spot 14 on Tristan Kardashian for the 3rd season in a row.

Sixers in 4 · Post #174 » by **Sixers in 4** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:38 am

HMFFL wrote:
Sixers in 4 wrote:I still think the best fit is OKC. They have the size where he wouldn't hurt them as much and are full of wings who can defend which would be attractive to Cle.

How about the bald eagle and Wiggins?
Why would OKC want Garland's contract on their books? Garland being listed at 6'1" lacks appeal.

25/26 $39,446,090
26/27 $42,166,510
27/28 44,886,930

He would give them another ballhandler next to SGA and someone who can create looks when he isn't on the court.

I don't think the money is a deal breaker since caruso and wiggins figure to make 30-35M during that same period. Is Caruso and Wiggins too much? Maybe just throwing out a potential fit.

JujitsuFlip · Post #175 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:15 am

Sixers in 4 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
Sixers in 4 wrote:I still think the best fit is OKC. They have the size where he wouldn't hurt them as much and are full of wings who can defend which would be attractive to Cle.

How about the bald eagle and Wiggins?
Why would OKC want Garland's contract on their books? Garland being listed at 6'1" lacks appeal.

25/26 $39,446,090
26/27 $42,166,510
27/28 44,886,930

He would give them another ballhandler next to SGA and someone who can create looks when he isn't on the court.

I don't think the money is a deal breaker since caruso and wiggins figure to make 30-35M during that same period. Is Caruso and Wiggins too much? Maybe just throwing out a potential fit.

Caruso and Wiggins isn't enough hahaha

Plus SGA hated playing with Giddey because he told Presti 'i am a PG'.

reload141 · Post #176 » by **reload141** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:18 am

To be honest he’s not worth that much at all, an expiring or decent player on a cheap 2 year deal and a couple of firsts.

He can’t play defense at all and is constantly injured.

Are the Cavs looking to just shed salary here? It seems like a lot of teams are petrified of the 2nd apron and there are going to be a lot of these trades this offseason.

Wingy · Post #177 » by **Wingy** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:52 am

To Portland for Simons, Thybulle, #11?

Simons gives some of the shooting/scoring back, same age, a little bigger, expiring. Thybulle if healthy, and if injuries haven’t sapped his ability is a good defender, but is mainly expiring (I assume he’ll opt in to play for a contender).

Basically clears the long-term salary, gives some playable now pieces, and their favorite cost-controlled prospect at 11.

For Portland, they get a stronger play maker/assist guy to go with their young core, don’t lose anything in the scoring department, and get value out of their expirings.

Do I love it for either team? Not really, but we’re spitballing ideas and as I already posted, he’s tough to trade for both the Cavs and the receiving team.

Bobbymcgee · Post #178 » by **Bobbymcgee** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:58 am

Cavs trade: Darius Garland + Max Strus

Clippers trade: Kawhi Leonard

Trade successful!

DowJones · Post #179 » by **DowJones** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:16 am

reload141 wrote:To be honest he’s not worth that much at all, an expiring or decent player on a cheap 2 year deal and a couple of firsts.

He can’t play defense at all and is constantly injured.

Are the Cavs looking to just shed salary here? It seems like a lot of teams are petrified of the 2nd apron and there are going to be a lot of these trades this offseason.

The Cavs wouldn’t have traded for Hunter at the deadline if they were petrified of the 2nd apron. The Cavs have 2 years to get under it, and they have a few large contracts expiring at that time.

Garland is a 2x all-star at age 25. The Cavs aren’t looking to just dump him.

Wingy · Post #180 » by **Wingy** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:23 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Sixers in 4 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Why would OKC want Garland's contract on their books? Garland being listed at 6'1" lacks appeal.

25/26 $39,446,090
26/27 $42,166,510
27/28 44,886,930

He would give them another ballhandler next to SGA and someone who can create looks when he isn't on the court.

I don't think the money is a deal breaker since caruso and wiggins figure to make 30-35M during that same period. Is Caruso and Wiggins too much? Maybe just throwing out a potential fit.
Caruso and Wiggins isn't enough hahaha

Plus SGA hated playing with Giddey because he told Presti 'i am a PG'.

I wouldn’t trade those two for Garland if I were OKC, and I’d bet those two would make Cleveland into a better overall team.