NBA Trade Thread #12

[Infinity2152]

i don't think there's any way we would be able to pull this off and i assume the nets would be aiming higher than 12 if they're dangling johnson, but this report does make me think that there's a higher chance of us trading down than i previously expected

draft where there's perceived to be a talent dropoff somewhere around 8-10 + teams sitting at 15/16/19 willing to consolidate two firsts into a late lottery pick...conditions seem ripe for us to be in the mix there

Demin and Drake are the two players the Bulls have been most connected too.

IMO Johnson is exactly the wrong sort of player to add to the roster. Sure 3pt shooting is helpful, but we to focus on adding a 3-D POA or defensive/rim running C. It's almost like adding another Coby. I was surprised to see he's 29. What would folks think about Vuc + Pat + Terry + 12 + Por 1st for Claxton + Johnson + 19?

This would be a hit. Cam Johnson is one of those players I've seen do a few sit down interviews, and his basketball knowledge and thinking are tremendous. Not the best defender, but his BPM of 3.1 and career high 18.2 PER last year, I'll take him. Especially with Claxton, do you know his contract actually decreases each year and he's signed till 2028?

Giddey, Matas, Johnson, Claxton. If Giddey signs around $25 mil AAV, all 4 put together are about $75 mill on 2026 cap. We'd still have Coby, Huerter, Collins, Ball, Carter and picks if a big trade comes along. Targeting POA defender from SG position (Bane ?).

Pretty good deal for the Nets too. IMO they don't have young players the quality level of Giddey and Matas, and it lets them stack more assets and picks, plus Vuc expiring and they have time for Pat to rebound. He doesn't rebound year one, only helps them tank more. They took a chance on Ben Simmons for a long time, lol. They'd have enough firsts and roster spots to take the shotgun rookie approach.

Johnson and Claxton don't help as much for them if they're rebuilding. Both are good enough to hurt their tanking, both have money past next summer. Trade like this, they could grab 3-4 rookies in this draft or package some picks and get two higher rookies, tank next year and have a top pick plus a ton of cap space again.

[Peelboy]

I think AK will make his big trade at this deadline while he has big expirings to deal and all our picks.

As did many for what....the past 3-4 deadlines? Only to be met with letting value contracts expire worthless (ala Drummond/DeMar) or resign them (ala Zach/Vuc)?

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, can't get fooled again.

It's a fool's errand anticipating/expecting AK to actually make a meaningful move versus inaction characterized as progress......

[ChettheJet]

https://t.co/XaSCgTxy35

Nets looking to package Cam Johnson and #19 to move up into the lotto

Would you do Ayo, filled (Carter), 12 for Cam and 19???

I think there are several issues with Cam Johnson, starting with he's 29 years old. Is he going to get better moving a team looking to improve in the standings and not tank for picks? There's his history, 1st 3 seasons hardly playing, the at 3 seasons 42, 58, 57 games for a bad BRK team. Can he play 75 games for the next 2 seasons? History says No. On the upside is you're able to wait a year to decide on him before he becomes an UFA but then he'll be 31, finished his 8th season and that decision might already have been made.

Even though most of the mock drafts list players at 10-to 19 as being interchangeable those questions make Johnson not worth dropping 7 slots. I'd rather keep Ayo

Gotta say No

[ChettheJet]

Looking at a Bleacher Report story about the Nets, OKC and Magic with multiple picks wanting to move higher as in into the lottery. If I'm AKME I'd be looking at how to make that work to the Bulls advantage.

First I talk to the numerous teams that are OUT of the first round See which of them have their eyes on some prospect/project/unknown flyer and would like to get into the #24, 25, 26 27. maybe the Bulls get a buy low candidate or a future slightly protected pick. Then see which of the three move up candidates will send their #15, 16, 19 plus their mid to late 20's pick to the Bulls. Then at least ask if some players added to the mix make that better and the same goes for the first trade they set up.

[Infinity2152]

https://t.co/XaSCgTxy35

Nets looking to package Cam Johnson and #19 to move up into the lotto

Would you do Ayo, filled (Carter), 12 for Cam and 19???

I think there are several issues with Cam Johnson, starting with he's 29 years old. Is he going to get better moving a team looking to improve in the standings and not tank for picks? There's his history, 1st 3 seasons hardly playing, the at 3 seasons 42, 58, 57 games for a bad BRK team. Can he play 75 games for the next 2 seasons? History says No. On the upside is you're able to wait a year to decide on him before he becomes an UFA but then he'll be 31, finished his 8th season and that decision might already have been made.

Even though most of the mock drafts list players at 10-to 19 as being interchangeable those questions make Johnson not worth dropping 7 slots. I'd rather keep Ayo

Gotta say No

NGL, this is the first time I've seen how many games Cam Johnson has missed. That said, I'd still do the Vuc/Williams/Terry, #12, Portland 1st for Johnson/Claxton, #19. Gets Pat off our books and a fresh start and gets us Claxton, who is the rare center who is good at paint and man defense with a declining contract. We could have our center for the next 8 years. The chance of hitting at 12 is that much better than the chance of hitting at 19.

Think now that Ayo has healed, he's going to be much better and likely to be re-signed in 2026.

[Infinity2152]

Looking at a Bleacher Report story about the Nets, OKC and Magic with multiple picks wanting to move higher as in into the lottery. If I'm AKME I'd be looking at how to make that work to the Bulls advantage.

First I talk to the numerous teams that are OUT of the first round See which of them have their eyes on some prospect/project/unknown flyer and would like to get into the #24, 25, 26 27. maybe the Bulls get a buy low candidate or a future slightly protected pick. Then see which of the three move up candidates will send their #15, 16, 19 plus their mid to late 20's pick to the Bulls. Then at least ask if some players added to the mix make that better and the same goes for the first trade they set up.

We have 9 expiring contracts to add to that mix too. Would be great if we could use one of those to move around, get an extra draft pick. My order for moving our expirings and getting something of value back would be:

1. Vucevic
2. White
3. Collins
4. Huerter
5. Carter
6. Terry
7. Ayo
8. Ball

[Rose2Boozer]

The wise thing to do, would be to trade Lonzo before the season starts, if(!) there’s a decent offer.

I think he can help a contender in very, very low minutes… major load management, bubble wrap. He’s an amazing boost. Total waste of his talent on the Bulls.

The Mavs can take him by using one of their trade exceptions.

[MrSparkle]

The wise thing to do, would be to trade Lonzo before the season starts, if(!) there’s a decent offer.

I think he can help a contender in very, very low minutes… major load management, bubble wrap. He’s an amazing boost. Total waste of his talent on the Bulls.

The Mavs can take him by using one of their trade exceptions.

That’s cool, although I worry that they have no worthwhile pick to trade back (besides the too-valuable LAL 29).

[sco]

The wise thing to do, would be to trade Lonzo before the season starts, if(!) there’s a decent offer.

I think he can help a contender in very, very low minutes… major load management, bubble wrap. He’s an amazing boost. Total waste of his talent on the Bulls.

The Mavs can take him by using one of their trade exceptions.

That’s cool, although I worry that they have no worthwhile pick to trade back (besides the too-valuable LAL 29).

I thought we were always talking about Zo for Gafford? I'm on board for that.

[Dez]

People do realize that both teams need to agree to a trade right?

[boozapalooza]

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Not an Isaac fan and wouldn’t do this for Coby….but would be all over it in return for Vuc, even with just one FRP. Magic need more scoring and vet leadership. Bring Vuc home to ORL

[Chi town]

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Not an Isaac fan and wouldn’t do this for Coby….but would be all over it in return for Vuc, even with just one FRP. Magic need more scoring and vet leadership. Bring Vuc home to ORL

Vuc for Isaac and a 1st would be a big win for the Bulls.

No way it happens.

I do think there be a team that packages their two 1sts to move up

[Dez]

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Not an Isaac fan and wouldn’t do this for Coby….but would be all over it in return for Vuc, even with just one FRP. Magic need more scoring and vet leadership. Bring Vuc home to ORL

Vuc isn't worth half that, Orlando aren't stupid.

[nomorezorro]

i don't really believe in isaac but i might be willing to trade coby for a package that includes him and orlando's draft picks. maybe try to get tristan da silva instead of one of the picks so you're not getting too many rookies?

if isaac has a bounceback year he's under control for three more years on an insanely team-friendly deal, and if not he's only got $8m guaranteed after this upcoming season. getting a ++ defender as a rotation piece would meld well with the theoretical identity this team is trying to build imo

[Infinity2152]

Issac's a good young player. His injury history is as bad as Ball's, maybe worse. Played 34 games 2019-20, 0 games 2020-2021, 0 games 2021-2022, 11 games the next, then 58 and 71. They could get Vuc in a trade, not Coby. He's a flyer type of player, save Coby for the big move.

[Dez]

The picks are the goal, Isaac is filler.

[dpucane]

The picks are the goal, Isaac is filler.

Everyone keeps talking about filling these "team needs".

Its like putting rims and a spoiler on a Mazda.

[kodo]

AK wants us to make the playoffs, I doubt he'll trade usable players (Coby) for draft picks. We had an unprotected Kings pick swap, he sent it away.
I think it's more likely well trade the #12 for a vet then trade one of our best players for another pick.

[HomoSapien]

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Not an Isaac fan and wouldn’t do this for Coby….but would be all over it in return for Vuc, even with just one FRP. Magic need more scoring and vet leadership. Bring Vuc home to ORL

I'd be pretty open to a trade that brings 16 and 25 for Coby. If you go off of NBAdraft.net's Mock Draft, you have a chance to walk out of this draft with Malauch (12), Kasparas Jakucionis (16), and Coward (25). That's a full rebuild as far as I'm concerned, and you're walking away with 3 potential starters.

[Infinity2152]

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Not an Isaac fan and wouldn’t do this for Coby….but would be all over it in return for Vuc, even with just one FRP. Magic need more scoring and vet leadership. Bring Vuc home to ORL

I'd be pretty open to a trade that brings 16 and 25 for Coby. If you go off of NBAdraft.net's Mock Draft, you have a chance to walk out of this draft with Malauch (12), Kasparas Jakucionis (16), and Coward (25). That's a full rebuild as far as I'm concerned, and you're walking away with 3 potential starters.

That would be amazing. Every mock I've seen lately has all three gone at the spots you just mentioned.

https://www.nba.com/news/2025-consensus-mock-draft