2025 NBA FINALS: #1 Oklahoma City Thunder vs #4 Indiana Pacers (IND leads 2-1)

[hardenASG13]

The idea that either J Dub or Chet are “off the table” in a hypothetical Giannis trade is a testament to how disconnected fans are regarding the value of their own guys and the value you need to give up for a top 20 all-time guy

Currently top 3 player in the league as well. Some people believe the Spurs are better off keeping the 2 overall pick who may never even be one fifth as good as Giannis is. Crazy takes everywhere.

For OKC, I see no reason they'd make a major trade. They are the best team in the league and also the youngest I believe. What would trading for Giannis accomplish? Giannis playoff resume against healthy contenders is awful, only one he beat was a cp3/Booker suns team that reached the finals beating 3 injured teams, and the suns group had never been in a playoffs before that year. I wouldn't give up a decade of Chet/Williams for 3 years of Giannis. OKC is going to win this title if they have their A game in 3 of the next 5 games.

As far as the spurs, they have the best prospect to enter the league since LeBron, maybe ever, who is 21. I don't see Giannis being all NBA at age 35 with his game and skill set. He is currently a top 3 player but for how long? I guess you could argue they don't need a guard with Fox/Castle there already and all the guys at #2 seem to be pg/sgs. We didn't get to see Wemby/Fox play together barely at all last year. I don't think they need a major trade at this point either, especially with pick #2 falling into their laps. They can be a top 2-4 team in the West next year and only improve going forward.

[Optms]

The idea that either J Dub or Chet are “off the table” in a hypothetical Giannis trade is a testament to how disconnected fans are regarding the value of their own guys and the value you need to give up for a top 20 all-time guy

Currently top 3 player in the league as well. Some people believe the Spurs are better off keeping the 2 overall pick who may never even be one fifth as good as Giannis is. Crazy takes everywhere.

For OKC, I see no reason they'd make a major trade. They are the best team in the league and also the youngest I believe. What would trading for Giannis accomplish? Giannis playoff resume against healthy contenders is awful, only one he beat was a cp3/Booker suns team that reached the finals beating 3 injured teams, and the suns group had never been in a playoffs before that year. I wouldn't give up a decade of Chet/Williams for 3 years of Giannis. OKC is going to win this title if they have their A game in 3 of the next 5 games.

As far as the spurs, they have the best prospect to enter the league since LeBron, maybe ever, who is 21. I don't see Giannis being all NBA at age 35 with his game and skill set. He is currently a top 3 player but for how long? I guess you could argue they don't need a guard with Fox/Castle there already and all the guys at #2 seem to be pg/sgs. We didn't get to see Wemby/Fox play together barely at all last year. I don't think they need a major trade at this point either, especially with pick #2 falling into their laps. They can be a top 2-4 team in the West next year and only improve going forward.

Spurs need Giannis the most, unless you believe Wemby will become good enough without a real second option that he can win the Spurs a title in the next handful of years.

You are looking at totally off. The likely hood that the Spurs will ever have the opportunity to pair Wemby with a top 3 player is next to none if they pass the opportunities they have now. Go after Giannis and Jokic and win as much as possible.

The Lakers had a 17 year old Kobe and still went after Shaq who was nearly 30. Timeline for both were even more off and they still formed a dynasty. OKC has less incentive to go after Giannis but that still doesn't mean they should ignore it if they lose this series. If you are the Spurs, give up what you have a Giannis/Wemby duo. Worry about the rest later.

[xBulletproof]

So uh, anyone ever have this happen buying tickets?

I bought tickets for tomorrow's game. Used PayPal, but PayPal charged the wrong payment method. So it got denied. Ticketmaster still sent the tickets and acts like everything is all good.

It was hours ago, so I keep waiting for something to happen.

[Patches Perry]

The idea that either J Dub or Chet are “off the table” in a hypothetical Giannis trade is a testament to how disconnected fans are regarding the value of their own guys and the value you need to give up for a top 20 all-time guy

The problem is most fans creating hypothetical Giannis to OKC trades are not OKC fans. I like Giannis and recognize his value, and understand why Milwaukee would insist upon a talent like Chet or Jdub, but I just don't get why it makes sense for OKC. I imagine most OKC fans saying Chet and Dub are off the table aren't actively advocating for a trade for Giannis to begin with.

yeah most fans also don't understand that you gotta give up Hartenstein + JDub/Chet + Wiggins or Joe to make it work salary wise and it would kill our depth. OKC basically losing 2/3 of their front court in a potential Giannis trade and another role player with no money left to add a decent player.

I'm sick and tired of JDub struggling in those finals but a Giannis trade isn't the solution.

Losing both Hartenstein and Chet would be especially bad since the word on the street is Giannis doesn't want to play center.

Giannis also changes OKC play style significantly. No big deal if they're a treadmill team or worse, but being #1 seed two years in a row with 68 wins this season and 3 wins from a title? Doesn't make sense to blow it up like that, even for the 3rd best player in the league imo.

[falcolombardi]

If okc loses with jalen strugglin all series long it would make sense to trade for giannis

But when is the last time you saw a title winning team completely shake off their team?

[xBulletproof]

I know it's popular to hate on Haliburton right now, buuut yeah. There's this.

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[jkvonny]

So uh, anyone ever have this happen buying tickets?

I bought tickets for tomorrow's game. Used PayPal, but PayPal charged the wrong payment method. So it got denied. Ticketmaster still sent the tickets and acts like everything is all good.

It was hours ago, so I keep waiting for something to happen.

Oh wow. Lucky! Lol

Enjoy the game!

I had something like that happen to me recently. Ordered some household products and items online on Amazon. Forgot to check the credit card, the site had a list of credit cards I've used in the past. Well, one of them was a one a prepaid Visa (a gift card from family member XMas) that was still on there, i forgot to change method of payment. The funds have been exhausted. Even with the error message. The order still went through somehow. Lol

So I had duplicate orders that came anyways. One set on the good card. The other set on the dead credit card.

[bisme37]

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[bisme37]

So uh, anyone ever have this happen buying tickets?

I bought tickets for tomorrow's game. Used PayPal, but PayPal charged the wrong payment method. So it got denied. Ticketmaster still sent the tickets and acts like everything is all good.

It was hours ago, so I keep waiting for something to happen.

Oh wow. Lucky! Lol

Enjoy the game!

I had something like that happen to me recently. Ordered some household products and items online on Amazon. Forgot to check the credit card, the site had a list of credit cards I've used in the past. Well, one of them was a one a prepaid Visa (a gift card from family member XMas) that was still on there, i forgot to change method of payment. The funds have been exhausted. Even with the error message. The order still went through somehow. Lol

So I had duplicate orders that came anyways. One set on the good card. The other set on the dead credit card.

I've been getting Prime for free for like 10 years. They gave me a free trial and never took it away lol.

[jkvonny]

So uh, anyone ever have this happen buying tickets?

I bought tickets for tomorrow's game. Used PayPal, but PayPal charged the wrong payment method. So it got denied. Ticketmaster still sent the tickets and acts like everything is all good.

It was hours ago, so I keep waiting for something to happen.

Oh wow. Lucky! Lol

Enjoy the game!

I had something like that happen to me recently. Ordered some household products and items online on Amazon. Forgot to check the credit card, the site had a list of credit cards I've used in the past. Well, one of them was a one a prepaid Visa (a gift card from family member XMas) that was still on there, i forgot to change method of payment. The funds have been exhausted. Even with the error message. The order still went through somehow. Lol

So I had duplicate orders that came anyways. One set on the good card. The other set on the dead credit card.

I've been getting Prime for free for like 10 years. They gave me a free trial and never took it away lol.

Oh wow, nice!

Lol that's funny and cool at the same time.

[littlerock2277]

Man these days off between games are boring!! Need some basketball!!

[darkse1d]

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but seriously though, he's treating it like a job. He comes gives his 2 cents on the matter and goes home and doesn't think about it till the next time he's up. Plus sounds he's going on vacation and has planned time off. It'll be equivalent to us normal people going on vacation and taking our work phone with us and take calls or emails from your manager.

[bisme37]

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but seriously though, he's treating it like a job. He comes gives his 2 cents on the matter and goes home and doesn't think about it till the next time he's up. Plus sounds he's going on vacation and has planned time off. It'll be equivalent to us normal people going on vacation and taking our work phone with us and take calls or emails from your manager.

I guess. Up through Game 2 he's been on NBATV analyzing the Finals on their pre and post game show. And there's been no indication that he's watched the games to this point, even before he went to the Bahamas lol.

Dude can't get over today's players making more money than he did and has nothing to say about the NBA that doesn't involve himself.

Shaq shares that he would be the richest athlete in the world if he were playing in the social media era: "I would be a trillionaire"
https://sports.yahoo.com/article/shaq-shares-richest-athlete-world-100400111.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

[Clav]

So uh, anyone ever have this happen buying tickets?

I bought tickets for tomorrow's game. Used PayPal, but PayPal charged the wrong payment method. So it got denied. Ticketmaster still sent the tickets and acts like everything is all good.

It was hours ago, so I keep waiting for something to happen.

Personally, I have no idea what you're talking about. Sounds like, to me, you have tickets to a Finals game

[hardenASG13]

Currently top 3 player in the league as well. Some people believe the Spurs are better off keeping the 2 overall pick who may never even be one fifth as good as Giannis is. Crazy takes everywhere.

For OKC, I see no reason they'd make a major trade. They are the best team in the league and also the youngest I believe. What would trading for Giannis accomplish? Giannis playoff resume against healthy contenders is awful, only one he beat was a cp3/Booker suns team that reached the finals beating 3 injured teams, and the suns group had never been in a playoffs before that year. I wouldn't give up a decade of Chet/Williams for 3 years of Giannis. OKC is going to win this title if they have their A game in 3 of the next 5 games.

As far as the spurs, they have the best prospect to enter the league since LeBron, maybe ever, who is 21. I don't see Giannis being all NBA at age 35 with his game and skill set. He is currently a top 3 player but for how long? I guess you could argue they don't need a guard with Fox/Castle there already and all the guys at #2 seem to be pg/sgs. We didn't get to see Wemby/Fox play together barely at all last year. I don't think they need a major trade at this point either, especially with pick #2 falling into their laps. They can be a top 2-4 team in the West next year and only improve going forward.

Spurs need Giannis the most, unless you believe Wemby will become good enough without a real second option that he can win the Spurs a title in the next handful of years.

You are looking at totally off. The likely hood that the Spurs will ever have the opportunity to pair Wemby with a top 3 player is next to none if they pass the opportunities they have now. Go after Giannis and Jokic and win as much as possible.

The Lakers had a 17 year old Kobe and still went after Shaq who was nearly 30. Timeline for both were even more off and they still formed a dynasty. OKC has less incentive to go after Giannis but that still doesn't mean they should ignore it if they lose this series. If you are the Spurs, give up what you have a Giannis/Wemby duo. Worry about the rest later.

I disagree. I think Giannis has only 3 or so high level years left. I think wemby is borderline top 5 now, and that he does have a legit second option in fox, who is more than serviceable in such a role. Add in Vassell, Castle and whoever they get in this year's draft and that a filthy core. OKC and Indiana are showing you don't need two top tier guys anymore. Depleting depth to go all in on an injury prone Giannis is risky at age 30, he doesnt have a jumper and won't age well. Building continuity with a core plus Wemby seems like the move to me rather than trying to focus on the next 2-3 years. Wemby will be the best player in the league within 2 years in my opinion though. Hes currently a no brainer top 10 player, so that's a major difference when compared to the 17 year old kobe/Shaq reference. I think the spurs will be nasty next year as is. I'd wait on a younger option than Giannis to go all in on if I were them. Castle and whoever they get at #2 this year will be major assets for them if they feel they need a third star. With how good wemby is a wemby/fox/castle/#2 pick is as good a core as anyone, and sustainable long term.

[Hoop Hunter]

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but seriously though, he's treating it like a job. He comes gives his 2 cents on the matter and goes home and doesn't think about it till the next time he's up. Plus sounds he's going on vacation and has planned time off. It'll be equivalent to us normal people going on vacation and taking our work phone with us and take calls or emails from your manager.

I guess. Up through Game 2 he's been on NBATV analyzing the Finals on their pre and post game show. And there's been no indication that he's watched the games to this point, even before he went to the Bahamas lol.

Dude can't get over today's players making more money than he did and has nothing to say about the NBA that doesn't involve himself.


Shaq shares that he would be the richest athlete in the world if he were playing in the social media era: "I would be a trillionaire"
https://sports.yahoo.com/article/shaq-shares-richest-athlete-world-100400111.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

Exactly. I can't ever tell if Shaq watches any of the games. He mostly says the same things. So and so needs to dominate and the others need to show up. Rinse and repeat.

[xBulletproof]

So uh, anyone ever have this happen buying tickets?

I bought tickets for tomorrow's game. Used PayPal, but PayPal charged the wrong payment method. So it got denied. Ticketmaster still sent the tickets and acts like everything is all good.

It was hours ago, so I keep waiting for something to happen.

Oh wow. Lucky! Lol

Enjoy the game!

I had something like that happen to me recently. Ordered some household products and items online on Amazon. Forgot to check the credit card, the site had a list of credit cards I've used in the past. Well, one of them was a one a prepaid Visa (a gift card from family member XMas) that was still on there, i forgot to change method of payment. The funds have been exhausted. Even with the error message. The order still went through somehow. Lol

So I had duplicate orders that came anyways. One set on the good card. The other set on the dead credit card.

Every time my phone rings or vibrates I'm waiting for it to be Ticketmaster telling me that they're revoking my tickets. I'm not going to say anything, but even if they pull the tickets at 7:30 tomorrow, I'll just hop on a website and buy whatever's there. I'm getting in the door.

[Ssj16]

The idea that either J Dub or Chet are “off the table” in a hypothetical Giannis trade is a testament to how disconnected fans are regarding the value of their own guys and the value you need to give up for a top 20 all-time guy

Currently top 3 player in the league as well. Some people believe the Spurs are better off keeping the 2 overall pick who may never even be one fifth as good as Giannis is. Crazy takes everywhere.

For OKC, I see no reason they'd make a major trade. They are the best team in the league and also the youngest I believe. What would trading for Giannis accomplish? Giannis playoff resume against healthy contenders is awful, only one he beat was a cp3/Booker suns team that reached the finals beating 3 injured teams, and the suns group had never been in a playoffs before that year. I wouldn't give up a decade of Chet/Williams for 3 years of Giannis. OKC is going to win this title if they have their A game in 3 of the next 5 games.

As far as the spurs, they have the best prospect to enter the league since LeBron, maybe ever, who is 21. I don't see Giannis being all NBA at age 35 with his game and skill set. He is currently a top 3 player but for how long? I guess you could argue they don't need a guard with Fox/Castle there already and all the guys at #2 seem to be pg/sgs. We didn't get to see Wemby/Fox play together barely at all last year. I don't think they need a major trade at this point either, especially with pick #2 falling into their laps. They can be a top 2-4 team in the West next year and only improve going forward.

I think this is a horrible assessment. Giannis balls out in the playoffs, the numbers checkout. He's been unfortunate situations where his teammates are injured or don't show up.

The only reason why I would have fear of moving for Giannis is because as many have mentioned, his poor fit with SGA but the dude is a certified baller.

[Ssj16]

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And this is one of the problems with the NBA. You can't have the premier voices crapping on the product, especially when the finals is a high quality matchup.

[ShootersShoot]

Currently top 3 player in the league as well. Some people believe the Spurs are better off keeping the 2 overall pick who may never even be one fifth as good as Giannis is. Crazy takes everywhere.

For OKC, I see no reason they'd make a major trade. They are the best team in the league and also the youngest I believe. What would trading for Giannis accomplish? Giannis playoff resume against healthy contenders is awful, only one he beat was a cp3/Booker suns team that reached the finals beating 3 injured teams, and the suns group had never been in a playoffs before that year. I wouldn't give up a decade of Chet/Williams for 3 years of Giannis. OKC is going to win this title if they have their A game in 3 of the next 5 games.

As far as the spurs, they have the best prospect to enter the league since LeBron, maybe ever, who is 21. I don't see Giannis being all NBA at age 35 with his game and skill set. He is currently a top 3 player but for how long? I guess you could argue they don't need a guard with Fox/Castle there already and all the guys at #2 seem to be pg/sgs. We didn't get to see Wemby/Fox play together barely at all last year. I don't think they need a major trade at this point either, especially with pick #2 falling into their laps. They can be a top 2-4 team in the West next year and only improve going forward.

Spurs need Giannis the most, unless you believe Wemby will become good enough without a real second option that he can win the Spurs a title in the next handful of years.

You are looking at totally off. The likely hood that the Spurs will ever have the opportunity to pair Wemby with a top 3 player is next to none if they pass the opportunities they have now. Go after Giannis and Jokic and win as much as possible.

The Lakers had a 17 year old Kobe and still went after Shaq who was nearly 30. Timeline for both were even more off and they still formed a dynasty. OKC has less incentive to go after Giannis but that still doesn't mean they should ignore it if they lose this series. If you are the Spurs, give up what you have a Giannis/Wemby duo. Worry about the rest later.

Shaq was 24 yrs old when he joined the lakers...
LA also wasnt the favorites to win the finals before they acquired shaq.