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Post#1681 » by JayTWill » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:57 am

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He would have to agree to an extension of some sort. Knicks haven't operated with letting someone get to free agency.

Similarly we probably know pretty quickly if Mikal is staying or going. He will get his extension if he doesn't take it he will probably be on the trade block (they didn't trade all those picks to risk that). Similar situation with Mitch

The knicks won't be operating as a team under the cap so losing KD 50 MM the following year we won't be able to get cap space from losing him. It would basically go into the abyss.


If they did let KD walk and let Mikal and Mitch walk or traded them for an expiring and some draft assets or cheap players I believe the only major contracts they would have on the books are Brunson and OG for around $80M and Hart's expiring for almost $21M. I see the cap at $170 next offseason.

I'm not suggesting that they should do it but would provide an option to make a true pivot from this current core. They could also trade Hart for an expiring this year and keep Mikal while still having a decent amount of money to throw at another player. There are some options if KD walks I believe.



Your basically then trading KAT, Mikal, and Mitch for cap space after next year. That would be a horrible use of resources.

You are extending Bridges or you are recouping a lot of the assets your traded for him. Zero chance they let him walk.


They have had many horrible uses of resources including the Mikal trade which they could try to recoup some value from along with an expiring if they wanted to. Once i'm not suggesting that they do it but it does give them room to pivot if they are willing to concede that last offseason may have been a mistake.
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Post#1682 » by sol537 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:00 am

I’d rather do a 4-team type of trade where KD ends up in MIN, SAS or HOU, then KAT ends up in PHX, then some of those assets for KD go to MEM and we get JJJ and parts in return. Shuffle the decks so to speak.

And then we could extend Mikal and Mitch and remain under the aprons because JJJ’s salary is lower than KAT’s the rest of the way.
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Post#1683 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:23 am

sol537 wrote:I’d rather do a 4-team type of trade where KD ends up in MIN, SAS or HOU, then KAT ends up in PHX, then some of those assets for KD go to MEM and we get JJJ and parts in return. Shuffle the decks so to speak.

And then we could extend Mikal and Mitch and remain under the aprons because JJJ’s salary is lower than KAT’s the rest of the way.



If KAT is part of package JJJ/Bane need to come back here. KAT/Hart go bye bye.

JJJ/Huk
OG/MLE
Bridges/Bane/MLE
Bane/McBride/Bridges
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Post#1684 » by NiceLikeChrist » Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:25 am

KnixinSix wrote:
sol537 wrote:I’d rather do a 4-team type of trade where KD ends up in MIN, SAS or HOU, then KAT ends up in PHX, then some of those assets for KD go to MEM and we get JJJ and parts in return. Shuffle the decks so to speak.

And then we could extend Mikal and Mitch and remain under the aprons because JJJ’s salary is lower than KAT’s the rest of the way.



If KAT is part of package JJJ/Bane need to come back here. KAT/Hart go bye bye.

JJJ/Huk
OG/MLE
Bridges/Bane/MLE
Bane/McBride/Bridges
Brunson/Wright/McBride

we become the worst rebounding team in the league overnight
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?

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Post#1685 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:43 am

NiceLikeChrist wrote:
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sol537 wrote:I’d rather do a 4-team type of trade where KD ends up in MIN, SAS or HOU, then KAT ends up in PHX, then some of those assets for KD go to MEM and we get JJJ and parts in return. Shuffle the decks so to speak.

And then we could extend Mikal and Mitch and remain under the aprons because JJJ’s salary is lower than KAT’s the rest of the way.



If KAT is part of package JJJ/Bane need to come back here. KAT/Hart go bye bye.

JJJ/Huk
OG/MLE
Bridges/Bane/MLE
Bane/McBride/Bridges
Brunson/Wright/McBride

we become the worst rebounding team in the league overnight


Ok no worries...

Mitch/JJJ/Huk
JJJ/OG/Clarke/MLE
OG/Bridges/Clarke/Bane
Bane/Bridges/McBride
Brunson/Wright/McBride

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Rebounding is better and JJJ can rebound more but he is asked to play out on the perimeter quite a bit in Memphis ( could be morebalanced here). Bridges becomes our top 6th man type. Absolutely a better squad than current. Bane is one of the most underrated players in the league. Great depth on roster too.
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Post#1686 » by R-DAWG » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:33 am

KnixinSix wrote:
sol537 wrote:I’d rather do a 4-team type of trade where KD ends up in MIN, SAS or HOU, then KAT ends up in PHX, then some of those assets for KD go to MEM and we get JJJ and parts in return. Shuffle the decks so to speak.

And then we could extend Mikal and Mitch and remain under the aprons because JJJ’s salary is lower than KAT’s the rest of the way.



If KAT is part of package JJJ/Bane need to come back here. KAT/Hart go bye bye.

JJJ/Huk
OG/MLE
Bridges/Bane/MLE
Bane/McBride/Bridges
Brunson/Wright/McBride


I think this is wayy too much value for KAT, but I would do this trade in a minute. 5 out lineup, only one negative defensive player. Slides Bridges into the front court and adds another ball handler/shooter next to Brunson. I just don’t think they do it for KAT.

I can see Memphis trading one of Bane/JJJ for one of Bridges/Anunoby. I think all 4 of these players hold similar value and from the Knicks perspective, a swap would provide some roster balance. JJJ would probably be my preference since his skill set - 3 and D rim protector - is the hardest position to fill and a world where he and KAT are interchangeable at the 4/5 could maximize both their skills.
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Post#1687 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:52 am

sol537 wrote:I’d rather do a 4-team type of trade where KD ends up in MIN, SAS or HOU, then KAT ends up in PHX, then some of those assets for KD go to MEM and we get JJJ and parts in return. Shuffle the decks so to speak.

And then we could extend Mikal and Mitch and remain under the aprons because JJJ’s salary is lower than KAT’s the rest of the way.


How many times has a 4 team trade of this magnitude been completed in the NBA? Very doubtful you get this kind of agreement with that many teams.
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Post#1688 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jun 11, 2025 11:47 am

R-DAWG wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
sol537 wrote:I’d rather do a 4-team type of trade where KD ends up in MIN, SAS or HOU, then KAT ends up in PHX, then some of those assets for KD go to MEM and we get JJJ and parts in return. Shuffle the decks so to speak.

And then we could extend Mikal and Mitch and remain under the aprons because JJJ’s salary is lower than KAT’s the rest of the way.



If KAT is part of package JJJ/Bane need to come back here. KAT/Hart go bye bye.

JJJ/Huk
OG/MLE
Bridges/Bane/MLE
Bane/McBride/Bridges
Brunson/Wright/McBride


I think this is wayy too much value for KAT, but I would do this trade in a minute. 5 out lineup, only one negative defensive player. Slides Bridges into the front court and adds another ball handler/shooter next to Brunson. I just don’t think they do it for KAT.

I can see Memphis trading one of Bane/JJJ for one of Bridges/Anunoby. I think all 4 of these players hold similar value and from the Knicks perspective, a swap would provide some roster balance. JJJ would probably be my preference since his skill set - 3 and D rim protector - is the hardest position to fill and a world where he and KAT are interchangeable at the 4/5 could maximize both their skills.


Grizzlies want a shake up and Durant( is still one of the top 5-6 players in the game )and Hart offer that. JJJ is on the final year of his deal. Hart has a high Lebron rating because he is a glue guy that does a ton of stuff and a player that could complement Ja and there lineup well.

You could also do it as KAT/Hart to memphis with a 3rd team just being the 'CBA balancer' and getting a minor player and minor draft comp. KAT for 3 controlled years has more value than JJJ for one controlled year especially if giving indicators he will leave at end of his contract (Memphis can't sign him for the supermax because he did not qualify for the supermax, so Memphis has lost a big financial advantage in signing him)

KATs was a top 12-15 player in all NBA last year. Lets not belittle his value either.

*EDIT: Actually a straight up 2 team works with Memphis bc they are under the 1st apron. You can add the 2026 NYK 1st round pick and even a couple 2nds if you think that is somehow not enough.

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And of course if you blazingly trade Hart away you got to bring a Nova buddy back for Jalen!

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And before anyone goes OMG OMG! A four for one deal! Oh noesssss....3 of those guys barely played if it all last year for us and we actually netted 12 mill space from the last deal . We'd also have the MLE to use so the final lineup would like just like this....


Rotation (Minutes)
JJJ(20)/Mitch(22)/Huk (6)
OG(25)/JJJ(12)/MLE- Oubre/Beasily (11)
Bridges(25)/OG(8)/Bane(8)/MLE- Oubre/Beasily(7)
Bane(25)/Divo(15)/Bridges(8)
Brunson(33)/Divo(12)/Wright(3)

9-10 deep linueup which is ALSO under 2nd apron this year. Every core player is a young vet or vet and almost all core players under 30.
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Post#1689 » by Pr0nzingis » Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:30 pm

Honestly i would be ok if Knicks do nothing big. New coach and a serviceable center, move Towns to PF, bench Hart and give it another go.

I feel there's gonna be a lot of trades, lot of teams wanting the same players, that equals to high asking prices, just do nothing and when the dust settles pick up left overs for a bargain and get a real deep rotation going.

Copy pacers, 1st half of season to give minutes and confidence to scrubs, 2nd half best team on the NBA and carry that to the playoffs.

The only players i would be ok gutting this team would be Giannis.
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Post#1690 » by Fury » Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:36 pm

Pr0nzingis wrote:Honestly i would be ok if Knicks do nothing. New coach and a serviceable center, move Towns to PF, bench Hart and give it another go.

I feel there's gonna be a lot of trades, lot of teams wanting the same players, that equals to high asking prices, just do nothing and when the dust settles pick up left overs for a bargain and get a real deep rotation going.

Copy pacers, 1st half of season to give minutes and confidence to scrubs, 2nd half best team on the NBA and carry that to the playoffs.

The only players i would be ok gutting this team would be Giannis.


I agree with this.

I also want to see a starting lineup of Brunson, Deuce, OG, KAT, and Mitch (or the center we get). Sign a vet guard, and have him come off the bench with Mikal Bridges and Josh Hart. Run it back.

If Bridges isn't happy with that, either re-sign him or just run Brunson, Deuce, Bridges, OG, and KAT.
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Post#1691 » by snadler » Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:38 pm

Pr0nzingis wrote:Honestly i would be ok if Knicks do nothing. New coach and a serviceable center, move Towns to PF, bench Hart and give it another go.

I feel there's gonna be a lot of trades, lot of teams wanting the same players, that equals to high asking prices, just do nothing and when the dust settles pick up left overs for a bargain and get a real deep rotation going.

Copy pacers, 1st half of season to give minutes and confidence to scrubs, 2nd half best team on the NBA and carry that to the playoffs.

The only players i would be ok gutting this team would be Giannis.


Just running it back and adding a new coach is just flat out not good enough. A new coach is not going to magically fix the KAT and Brunson defensive dilemma. They need to find another guard that can create offense and take pressure off brunson on offense and allow him to play off the ball. THEY MUST GET MORE ATHLETIC as a roster, starting 5 might be the least athletic team in the nba, and they obviously need to add more depth. A huge task for Leon that just replacing the coach won’t fix
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Post#1692 » by dukeknicksirish » Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:57 pm

- Trade Precious(3 year front loaded deal) for Lonzo Ball

- Engage Orlando about their "roster improvement package" and offer Hart + Kolek for Isaacs, Joseph, #25 and future 2nd

- Expand the trade to involve Chicago and route Harris ( 1 year contract ) and the future Orl 2nd to Chicago

- trade #25 and #55 to Charlotte for #33 and #34 to save money financially but get essentially 2 late firsts

- resign McCullar to minimum

- resign Shamet to minumum

- Stay under 2nd luxury and compete


KAT/Mitch/Huk
OG/Isaacs/KAT/#34
Mikal/Dadiet/McCullar
McBride/Ball/Shamet
Brunson/Ball/Joseph /#33
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Post#1693 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:04 pm

I do think the Grizzlies could be a trade partner for us in some ways:

A) Edey is going to be out to start the season after ankle surgery and he wasn't exactly great his rookie year. They've always looked to have a traditional 5 on the roster and they do not have a 1st round pick to work with nor do they have cap space. If the Knicks are looking to move Mitch this would be a pretty decent spot to get quality depth back..

B) They've registered major interest in Mikal previously. If the Knicks don't feel comfortable with extending Mikal, then you have to think the Grizzlies would have major interest again.
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Post#1694 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:21 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:I do think the Grizzlies could be a trade partner for us in some ways:

A) Edey is going to be out to start the season after ankle surgery and he wasn't exactly great his rookie year. They've always looked to have a traditional 5 on the roster and they do not have a 1st round pick to work with nor do they have cap space. If the Knicks are looking to move Mitch this would be a pretty decent spot to get quality depth back..

B) They've registered major interest in Mikal previously. If the Knicks don't feel comfortable with extending Mikal, then you have to think the Grizzlies would have major interest again.


100% they match up extremely well with us for a trade. Extremely well. And Mitch is a major
Defensive closer if used correctly. That has value in this scoring league.
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Post#1695 » by HopelessKnick » Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:47 pm

One major aspect of a potential trade would be what the extension rate would be. If say Durant was adamant on making max salary or close to it, then the deal becomes much less attractive. If Durant was ok with making say 30mill. (say 2 year 60-70mill.) that would be pretty good as it would allow much more flexibility going forward.

I like KAT and I absolutely wouldn't mind just keeping him around. But keep in mind he is going to make 55-60mill. the next 3 years and his following contract is probably gonna still remain high because he is going to want to cash out in his prime. If KD agrees on taking less at the age of 36/37 that could be a major bonus.

We also would desperately have to get a Center back in the deal. No way you can rely on Mitch that much.
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Post#1696 » by TGW » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:28 pm

The Grizzlies aren’t trying JJJ. He’s a two way stud. They’d want OG and KAT to even think about moving him.
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Post#1697 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:16 pm

I think that, other than Giannis, our KAT is the best player talked about in this thread. Instead of dreaming of this nonsense, we should go after DiVincenzo, get a backup for Mitch and roll with this group. Between Hart, DiVo and, say, Horford there would be enough depth on the bench to make a legit Finals run in the East next season.
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Post#1698 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:18 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:One major aspect of a potential trade would be what the extension rate would be. If say Durant was adamant on making max salary or close to it, then the deal becomes much less attractive. If Durant was ok with making say 30mill. (say 2 year 60-70mill.) that would be pretty good as it would allow much more flexibility going forward.

I like KAT and I absolutely wouldn't mind just keeping him around. But keep in mind he is going to make 55-60mill. the next 3 years and his following contract is probably gonna still remain high because he is going to want to cash out in his prime. If KD agrees on taking less at the age of 36/37 that could be a major bonus.

We also would desperately have to get a Center back in the deal. No way you can rely on Mitch that much.

He wouldn’t. It’s his last real contract and he isn’t even better.
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Post#1699 » by sol537 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:20 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:I think that, other than Giannis, our KAT is the best player talked about in this thread. Instead of dreaming of this nonsense, we should go after DiVincenzo, get a backup for Mitch and roll with this group. Between Hart, DiVo and, say, Horford there would be enough depth on the bench to make a legit Finals run in the East next season.


Would you be willing to part with Deuce, Dadiet, two 2nd rounders, and Tucker to get DDV if that's what MIN demanded? It's a steep price...

I'd love Hortford and CP3 for the vet minimums but both are doubtful to come here I would think. If you use the Tax MLE someone mentioned that would put us in the 2nd apron? Might only have vet minimums to use.

I think extending Mitch and Mikal are the priorities this off-season and bringing in a brilliant young'ish coach. If we nail those things, we'll already be in great shape to take the #1 or #2 seed in the East.
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