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2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1801 » by RexBoyWonder » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:57 pm

DayofMourning wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:FINE...bring in the cupcake


With a juicy extension too!

like the one we didn't give Jimmy despite him being younger and actually earning it here?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1802 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:58 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:BK is going to get involved in this deal taking on Duncan’s contract with all that cap space. Just makes sense they take a couple of 2nd rd picks and keep building there stash. Suns are not going to carry that dead money.


No the Suns will want Duncan’s contract because they can waive his partial guarantee and get under the 2nd Apron. Duncan’s contact is specifically very valuable to the Suns in an ironic twist.

They can get BK to absorb the whole damn thing instead of having to carry the 9.8 mil in dead money. If they get the entire 19.8 off the books they have plenty of money now below the tax line to sign there draft picks. BK would eat the dead money and release Duncan while getting some 2nd rd picks to do it. They have a ton of space to do this.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1803 » by Wiltside » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:58 pm

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Claxton would be a good get for PHX in this deal. Honestly, they were terrible this year. Getting some good quality role players alongside Booker, they’ll probably be a better team even if the talent level is lower.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1804 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:58 pm

batterybro42 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:BK is going to get involved in this deal taking on Duncan’s contract with all that cap space. Just makes sense they take a couple of 2nd rd picks and keep building there stash. Suns are not going to carry that dead money.


No the Suns will want Duncan’s contract because they can waive his partial guarantee and get under the 2nd Apron. Duncan’s contact is specifically very valuable to the Suns in an ironic twist.


Sending him to the Nets into cap space relieves them of the full $20M but they’ll have to pay if they want the nets to eat all that
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1805 » by Wiltside » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:59 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:FINE...bring in the cupcake


With a juicy extension too!

like the one we didn't give Jimmy despite him being younger and actually earning it here?


Basically, yes. But KD is a better talent than Jimmy who fits with Herro and Bam better IMO.

Business is business, Rex.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1806 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:00 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:FINE...bring in the cupcake


With a juicy extension too!

like the one we didn't give Jimmy despite him being younger and actually earning it here?


We would have the following next season if we didn’t have a falling out with Jimmy:

???
Adin Ross
Jimmy
KD
Bam

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1807 » by Wiltside » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:00 pm

Duncan going to BKN to be Joe Harris 2.0 lol
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1808 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:02 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
batterybro42 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:BK is going to get involved in this deal taking on Duncan’s contract with all that cap space. Just makes sense they take a couple of 2nd rd picks and keep building there stash. Suns are not going to carry that dead money.


No the Suns will want Duncan’s contract because they can waive his partial guarantee and get under the 2nd Apron. Duncan’s contact is specifically very valuable to the Suns in an ironic twist.


Sending him to the Nets into cap space relieves them of the full $20M but they’ll have to pay if they want the nets to eat all that

Nets would only be eating the partial amount not the full 19.8. They can first absorb the space then get 10 mil back. It’s only 9.8 so they can eat that for a few 2nds.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1809 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:03 pm

Wiltside wrote:Duncan going to BKN to be Joe Harris 2.0 lol

He’ll be released immediately lol.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1810 » by batterybro42 » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:03 pm

Wiltside wrote:Duncan going to BKN to be Joe Harris 2.0 lol


I could see the Nets absorbing Wiggins if the Suns don’t want him. But not Robinson. Wiggins on the Nets makes sense because he’s likely a guy they can hold onto and flip when the time is right.

Duncan’s partial guarantee is probably why this entire deal gets done to begin with.
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Post#1811 » by batterybro42 » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:05 pm

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batterybro42 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:BK is going to get involved in this deal taking on Duncan’s contract with all that cap space. Just makes sense they take a couple of 2nd rd picks and keep building there stash. Suns are not going to carry that dead money.


No the Suns will want Duncan’s contract because they can waive his partial guarantee and get under the 2nd Apron. Duncan’s contact is specifically very valuable to the Suns in an ironic twist.


Sending him to the Nets into cap space relieves them of the full $20M but they’ll have to pay if they want the nets to eat all that



Good point, I would think getting Wiggins over there would make sense for them. That allows them to shave like 40 million off the cap total and I think gets them under both aprons, and I don’t know if they need to grease the wheels for BKN on that.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1812 » by fincane30 » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:06 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:FINE...bring in the cupcake


With a juicy extension too!

like the one we didn't give Jimmy despite him being younger and actually earning it here?


Option 1: Pay the older player 55 million a year who misses time and who tricked people into believing his "I play the ball the right way" nonsense was actually a thing, when actually he was either incapable or unwilling to play to the level of a max guy for the 60 games he was gonna be available per year. Also he was a well documented a-hole even during the good times.

Option 2: Pay the older player who misses time 55 million per year who no one ever questions what he's gonna provide night to night when he's available with a game that still shows that he's an elite scorer. He is petty and always on the internet but at his core just wants to hoop.

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1813 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:15 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1815 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:16 pm

If you’re upset at potentially adding a top 20 player to ever play the game, a top 5 offensive player ever, who is still arguably a top 10 player in the world for what is rumored to be a package resembling 2 bums (Wiggins/Duncan/Terry) one of Jovic/JJJ and a 1st I encourage you to do some soul searching.

Idc about his age, unless he suffers a very serious injury he is going to great next season for sure and a 23+ PPG scorer on elite efficiency for the duration of his contract with the 2 year extension.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1816 » by SA37 » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:16 pm

Wiltside wrote:Slim reaper in SoBe would be sick. Need to keep the dude healthy and not run him into the ground.

East is wide open….leggo


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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1817 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:19 pm

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Claxton would be a good get for PHX in this deal. Honestly, they were terrible this year. Getting some good quality role players alongside Booker, they’ll probably be a better team even if the talent level is lower.

They would have to swap out Wiggins for Claxton and would probably have to give BK a 1st to get that done. If the Suns are getting JJJ then it does make sense to ship out Wiggins and 1st to BK for Claxton.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1818 » by SA37 » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:20 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
batterybro42 wrote:
No the Suns will want Duncan’s contract because they can waive his partial guarantee and get under the 2nd Apron. Duncan’s contact is specifically very valuable to the Suns in an ironic twist.


Sending him to the Nets into cap space relieves them of the full $20M but they’ll have to pay if they want the nets to eat all that

Nets would only be eating the partial amount not the full 19.8. They can first absorb the space then get 10 mil back. It’s only 9.8 so they can eat that for a few 2nds.


My understanding is Robinson would have to have his money guaranteed in order to count for the full ~$20M towards a trade. If not, I think he'd only count the guaranteed amount.

So, it seems like his contract can be moved with the option still intact, but it may require another player going out.
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Post#1819 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:22 pm

batterybro42 wrote:
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batterybro42 wrote:
No the Suns will want Duncan’s contract because they can waive his partial guarantee and get under the 2nd Apron. Duncan’s contact is specifically very valuable to the Suns in an ironic twist.


Sending him to the Nets into cap space relieves them of the full $20M but they’ll have to pay if they want the nets to eat all that



Good point, I would think getting Wiggins over there would make sense for them. That allows them to shave like 40 million off the cap total and I think gets them under both aprons, and I don’t know if they need to grease the wheels for BKN on that.

Wiggins, Duncan, and 1st rd pick to BK for Claxton. Suns get their young Center and get off scott free from Duncan’s full contract. Makes a whole lot of sense. BK could then flip Wiggins again for assets.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#1820 » by SA37 » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:23 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:If you’re upset at potentially adding a top 20 player to ever play the game, a top 5 offensive player ever, who is still arguably a top 10 player in the world for what is rumored to be a package resembling 2 bums (Wiggins/Duncan/Terry) one of Jovic/JJJ and a 1st I encourage you to do some soul searching.

Idc about his age, unless he suffers a very serious injury he is going to great next season for sure and a 23+ PPG scorer on elite efficiency for the duration of his contract with the 2 year extension.


I would be completely ok with Miami becoming the geriatric capital of the NBA.

Miami trades for Durant and DeRozan and signs, Westbrook, Paul, Burks, Lopez, and Haslem

Lopez / Love / Ware
Bam / Haslem
Durant / Highsmith
DeRozan / Burks
Paul / Westbrook

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