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Post #1021 » by **zimpy27** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:09 am

I don't think one-way NBA players are that valuable in general now. Teams are smartening watching all the most recent NBA Champions being loaded with 2-way guys (especially guards).

Can't see a guy that gets targeted on defense having much value to a playoff contender.

Post #1022 » by **Klomp** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:26 am

I kinda called the Memphis shakeup, just didn't expect it to be Bane

Post #1023 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:39 am

Klomp wrote:I kinda called the Memphis shakeup, just didn't expect it to be Bane

It may not be just Bane.

Post #1024 » by **zimpy27** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:43 am

jbk1234 wrote:
Klomp wrote:I kinda called the Memphis shakeup, just didn't expect it to be Bane

It may not be just Bane.

I guess we have to wait and see.

The toppling of Utah started with O'Neale and then Gobert trades before Mitchell trade. Usually a team starts with most valuable player in a tear down but it can stat with a great deal on a lesser player.

Post #1025 » by **zimpy27** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:07 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Nah Ingram/Barrett/9 is the most obvious package from toronto.

Suns have been wanting a starting C though. Poeltl needs to be in package I think. Would you prefer to move Ingram or RJ?

Or are you expecting pick 9 to be the starting C?

they can trade for a C with Barrett/9. I did one where they got Bitadze/15/19

Hearing whispers that Poeltl+RJ+2xFRP is a potential offer for Durant. #9 not involved. I think this would be the best offer for Durant if Masai wants to pull the trigger.

Apz · Post #1026 » by **Apz** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:10 am

zimpy27 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Klomp wrote:I kinda called the Memphis shakeup, just didn't expect it to be Bane

It may not be just Bane.

I guess we have to wait and see.

The toppling of Utah started with O'Neale and then Gobert trades before Mitchell trade. Usually a team starts with most valuable player in a tear down but it can stat with a great deal on a lesser player.

Yeah, or just starts with what they get a great offer for, and then realize they cant really replace it and might aswell sell off. Its a kinda good time to tank atm in the west if u dont see ypurself being able to reach contender status, and try to be great 4-5 years down the line

doogie_hauser · Post #1027 » by **doogie_hauser** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:12 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Suns have been wanting a starting C though. Poeltl needs to be in package I think. Would you prefer to move Ingram or RJ?

Or are you expecting pick 9 to be the starting C?

they can trade for a C with Barrett/9. I did one where they got Bitadze/15/19

Hearing whispers that Poeltl+RJ+2xFRP is a potential offer for Durant. I think this would be the best offer for Durant if Masai wants to pull the trigger.

That only happens I would assume if Durant would sign an extension at Toronto (which seems unlikely)

It does seem probable at this point that Durant ends up in Miami with Claxton joining the Suns as part of a three way trade with Brooklyn.

Would make the Heat an instant contender again I would think. Takes a lot of the scoring load and burden off Bam.

hoopsfan777 · Post #1028 » by **hoopsfan777** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:30 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Suns have been wanting a starting C though. Poeltl needs to be in package I think. Would you prefer to move Ingram or RJ?

Or are you expecting pick 9 to be the starting C?

they can trade for a C with Barrett/9. I did one where they got Bitadze/15/19

Hearing whispers that Poeltl+RJ+2xFRP is a potential offer for Durant. #9 not involved. I think this would be the best offer for Durant if Masai wants to pull the trigger.

I'd like to see Durant and Ingram play together.

vincecarter4pres · Post #1029 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:03 am

doogie_hauser wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
they can trade for a C with Barrett/9. I did one where they got Bitadze/15/19

Hearing whispers that Poeltl+RJ+2xFRP is a potential offer for Durant. I think this would be the best offer for Durant if Masai wants to pull the trigger.

That only happens I would assume if Durant would sign an extension at Toronto (which seems unlikely)

It does seem probable at this point that Durant ends up in Miami with Claxton joining the Suns as part of a three way trade with Brooklyn.

Would make the Heat an instant contender again I would think. Takes a lot of the scoring load and burden off Bam.

I don’t know why it would seem probable for Clax to go to the Suns in any iteration of a Miami trade.

What exactly is Brooklyn receiving as compensation?

In a Rockets or Spurs KD deal there is a clear path to the Nets extracting proper value.

With Miami it’s like we’re just expected in the deal to be the farm team for free.

SlimShady83 · Post #1030 » by **SlimShady83** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:14 am

Hey Magic fans ...

I hear you guys still need a PG/Playmaker, us Laker fans willing to trade you Reaves for WCJ ... But we also want 2 picks in the deals lols.

SlimShady83 · Post #1031 » by **SlimShady83** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:17 am

Klomp wrote:I kinda called the Memphis shakeup, just didn't expect it to be Bane

I thought they were going to trade Ja morant more then anything, then again, they still might.

LarsV8 · Post #1032 » by **LarsV8** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:47 am

What's the cost to jump from 10 to 6?

jredsaz · Post #1033 » by **jredsaz** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:26 am

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doogie_hauser · Post #1034 » by **doogie_hauser** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:27 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
doogie_hauser wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:

Hearing whispers that Poeltl+RJ+2xFRP is a potential offer for Durant. I think this would be the best offer for Durant if Masai wants to pull the trigger.

That only happens I would assume if Durant would sign an extension at Toronto (which seems unlikely)

It does seem probable at this point that Durant ends up in Miami with Claxton joining the Suns as part of a three way trade with Brooklyn.

Would make the Heat an instant contender again I would think. Takes a lot of the scoring load and burden off Bam.

I don’t know why it would seem probable for Clax to go to the Suns in any iteration of a Miami trade.

What exactly is Brooklyn receiving as compensation?

In a Rockets or Spurs KD deal there is a clear path to the Nets extracting proper value.

With Miami it’s like we’re just expected in the deal to be the farm team for free.

Nets still want to clear cap space/get expiring contracts and future draft capital.

Think they are building for a big run at next year's Free Agency class, which is a lot deeper tbh

The Nets have a masterplan long term I am sure

jredsaz · Post #1035 » by **jredsaz** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:29 am

LarsV8 wrote:What's the cost to jump from 10 to 6?

10, Reed Sheppard and a future Suns pick.

babyjax13 · Post #1036 » by **babyjax13** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:36 am

jredsaz wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:What's the cost to jump from 10 to 6?

10, Reed Sheppard and a future Suns pick.

I think it is just 10 and a future pick or 10 and Smith (who would be a great fit with Sarr).

jredsaz · Post #1037 » by **jredsaz** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:03 am

babyjax13 wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:What's the cost to jump from 10 to 6?

10, Reed Sheppard and a future Suns pick.

I think it is just 10 and a future pick or 10 and Smith (who would be a great fit with Sarr).

Idk. Moving up in the NBA draft costs. How about a future Rockets 1st instead?

Astaluego · Post #1038 » by **Astaluego** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:11 am

Based on talent, age, fit, and salary, is Reaves a near-perfect fit for the WOLVES? What would the trade look like?
Reaves to WOLVES
Dillingham+++ JAZZ
DDV+ Kessler LAKERS

What would that ++ be going to Utah? The WOLVES' 17th pick? The LAKERS' 2031 FRP? Knecht? The Jazz reset the clock before paying Kessler (and losing much of his value). This is also a draft loaded with good center prospects, ideal for replacing WK.

The LAKERS could still try to get Wiggins, with expiring contracts + swaps? Maybe use Hachimura?

babyjax13 · Post #1039 » by **babyjax13** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:23 am

Astaluego wrote:Based on talent, age, fit, and salary, is Reaves a near-perfect fit for the WOLVES? What would the trade look like?
Reaves to WOLVES
Dillingham+++ JAZZ
DDV+ Kessler LAKERS

What would that ++ be going to Utah? The WOLVES' 17th pick? The LAKERS' 2031 FRP? Knecht? The Jazz reset the clock before paying Kessler (and losing much of his value). This is also a draft loaded with good center prospects, ideal for replacing WK.

The LAKERS could still try to get Wiggins, with expiring contracts + swaps? Maybe use Hachimura?

Really no interest in Dillingham, we are already inundated with undersized guards.

Michaellam1987 · Post #1040 » by **Michaellam1987** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:38 am

doogie_hauser wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
they can trade for a C with Barrett/9. I did one where they got Bitadze/15/19

Hearing whispers that Poeltl+RJ+2xFRP is a potential offer for Durant. I think this would be the best offer for Durant if Masai wants to pull the trigger.

That only happens I would assume if Durant would sign an extension at Toronto (which seems unlikely)

It does seem probable at this point that Durant ends up in Miami with Claxton joining the Suns as part of a three way trade with Brooklyn.

Would make the Heat an instant contender again I would think. Takes a lot of the scoring load and burden off Bam.

Actually I don't understand why TOR insist to trade away their starting C in Poeltl, can't rely on a rookie C, if TOR wants to be in the playoff.