Knicks - Jazz

[Knickfan1982]

No talk of Sexton, really. Doesn't he help the Knicks with floor spacing and punch off the bench?

The problem is that if everyone is healthy both the guys the Knicks get would be helping us off the bench whereas Bridges is a starter. That's the biggest thing most people ignore about this deal.

[SkyHook]

No talk of Sexton, really. Doesn't he help the Knicks with floor spacing and punch off the bench?

The problem is that if everyone is healthy both the guys the Knicks get would be helping us off the bench whereas Bridges is a starter. That's the biggest thing most people ignore about this deal.

The OP listed Towns as a 4 and I can't see starting Robinson over Kessler at the 5. Maybe that's part of the disconnect.

[Daddy 801]

I have never heard anyone say the Jazz are ready to start contending. Until this thread.

It started with the introduction of our new GM Ainge Jr. He was asked if the Jazz would purposely tank. He said no and we would always put out a team to win and compete.

Of course he said that. No GM would say they are going to tank. People latched onto that and thought it meant we are in a win now trade for good player mode. We aren’t. All it signaled to Jazz fans who know what’s going on is that Clarkson, Sexton, Collins and possibly even Lauri will all be gone and we will lose because we are young and not play the fake injury weird lineup game we did this season.

This last year was year 1 of our tank. We’re gonna be a bottom five team at least the next two years. And probably still in the lottery in 3 years. After that we should in theory have enough young talent and hopefully some of it has matured well enough we can bring in vets.

The Jazz are probably the single best team to take on bad contracts like Dame and PG. My hope is we get both this season for draft capital and tell those guys to take the whole year off and podcast or whatever. Then they can be veteran leaders and if they show something in a season or two that a team starts to want them back on their team we can look to trade them or they can stay on the team and expire in X amount of years.

Long way of saying the Jazz aren’t looking to add a guy like Bridges. It would be a complete waste and I would be furious if we did something so stupid. So in a vacuum people can think Jazz fans are crazy for wanting to keep Kessler over Bridges but I agree 100%. We want young guys and unprotected FRP’s. That’s about it. No reason to add a guy like Bridges. Maybe in 3-4 years we start to make moves like that.

[Knicks365247]

Thanks Daddy (801) for the fatherly advice and intel on the Jazz.

Dame would definitely look good in purple on the sidelines.

[cgf]

I think this is wrong directionally for us, but the value totally depends on Bridges' next contract. I think he is a 20 percent of the cap player which is about 30 million a year. I do not think that is how he feels.

He didn’t shoot the 3 well this year and he’s not as versatile as OG defensively. But his midrange game is money, he moves the ball well as a secondary creator, and he’s a fantastic guard / help defender.

That’s a player I’d have absolutely no qualms paying up to 40M a year…but less than OG + two years of cap-flation…and trust that his 3ball bounces back to his career averages. Especially with bargain we got from Brunson.

[Knickfan1982]

No talk of Sexton, really. Doesn't he help the Knicks with floor spacing and punch off the bench?

The problem is that if everyone is healthy both the guys the Knicks get would be helping us off the bench whereas Bridges is a starter. That's the biggest thing most people ignore about this deal.

The OP listed Towns as a 4 and I can't see starting Robinson over Kessler at the 5. Maybe that's part of the disconnect.

The disconnect is that there is no way Kessler starts over a healthy Robinson. Kessler will get a lot of playing time when Robinson eventually gets hurt but a healthy Robinson is key to our team. His rebounding, his athleticism, the fact that he doesn't need the ball offensively and his shot blocking are far too important.

[SkyHook]

The problem is that if everyone is healthy both the guys the Knicks get would be helping us off the bench whereas Bridges is a starter. That's the biggest thing most people ignore about this deal.

The OP listed Towns as a 4 and I can't see starting Robinson over Kessler at the 5. Maybe that's part of the disconnect.

The disconnect is that there is no way Kessler starts over a healthy Robinson. Kessler will get a lot of playing time when Robinson eventually gets hurt but a healthy Robinson is key to our team. His rebounding, his athleticism, the fact that he doesn't need the ball offensively and his shot blocking are far too important.

Okay, but this describes Kessler as well... except he's been better than Robinson at each of these aspects, both this season and throughout their careers. If the Knicks FO mindset is to value Kessler as a backup to Robinson, then any further discussion just isn't productive.

[Knickfan1982]

The OP listed Towns as a 4 and I can't see starting Robinson over Kessler at the 5. Maybe that's part of the disconnect.

The disconnect is that there is no way Kessler starts over a healthy Robinson. Kessler will get a lot of playing time when Robinson eventually gets hurt but a healthy Robinson is key to our team. His rebounding, his athleticism, the fact that he doesn't need the ball offensively and his shot blocking are far too important.

Okay, but this describes Kessler as well... except he's been better than Robinson at each of these aspects, both this season and throughout their careers. If the Knicks FO mindset is to value Kessler as a backup to Robinson, then any further discussion just isn't productive.

He had a really good year on a really bad team. Mitch has proven himself on playoff teams. Mitch's injury concerns are the only thing making this a consideration for me.