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Re: Off season, free agency, coaching change. 

Post#201 » by wakelaunch1 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:36 am

Bobbymcgee wrote:Those extra picks Orlando threw in were to dump the KCP contract on the Grizzlies.



KCP is overpaid by a lot but he is not a bum and he is valueable on the right team
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Re: Off season, free agency, coaching change. 

Post#202 » by TrueLAfan » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:28 am

wakelaunch1 wrote:
Bobbymcgee wrote:Those extra picks Orlando threw in were to dump the KCP contract on the Grizzlies.



KCP is overpaid by a lot but he is not a bum and he is valueable on the right team


Yeah, this is about right. KCP is an MLE player getting about 50% more than that (about $7 million more) in salary.

But think about it. Orlando traded the 16th pick this year. That alone is *way* more valuable than $7 million of team payroll. Add three more first round picks to that, and a pick swap. I'm just not feeling it.
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Re: Off season, free agency, coaching change. 

Post#203 » by Captain Ballmer » Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:49 am

Imagine How many unprotected first round pick Zubac could get..
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Re: Off season, free agency, coaching change. 

Post#204 » by wakelaunch1 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:40 am

Captain Ballmer wrote:Imagine How many unprotected first round pick Zubac could get..


Thats a great question. I feel like he would get at least 4 picks as well. He is the perfect age, and still getting better. Imagine prime Zu with prime CP3 or someone like Magic Johnson. Harden unlocked Zu but as Harden loses that first step it becomes harder on him and Kawhi not moving around. If we had more motion in our offense, I think Zu would be almost unstoppable in todays NBA.

My steven adams backup big has been crushed so I have to think. Charlotte wants to unload Williams....
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Re: Off season, free agency, coaching change. 

Post#205 » by KL2 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:50 pm

Kobe Sanders 6’9 SF worked out for the Clippers.

Funnily enough his comparison on nbadraft is Trentyn Flowers.
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Post#206 » by esqtvd » Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:49 am

KD

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Re: Off season, free agency, coaching change. 

Post#207 » by TrueLAfan » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:39 pm

Funny. I agree about the Toronto deal. But I don't just think players 9-17 are similar. I think players 9-35 are in a very narrow range. I'd love to get a second pick in this draft.
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Post#208 » by MartinToVaught » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:21 pm

The Suns and their fans/media seem to be forgetting that KD is going to be 37 years old next season and hasn't made a real impact on winning in years. If they want a return that isn't "underwhelming" by their lofty standards, they should be looking at trading Booker.
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Post#209 » by wakelaunch1 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:30 am

2 years 20 million. Go get him.
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Sign and trade PJ Washington for Powell.
Sign Tyus Jones

The effort we would see in that second line would be unmatched. Use our young guys to give Kawhi, Batum, and Harden nights off

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Post#210 » by Ballings7 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:01 pm

wakelaunch1 wrote:2 years 20 million. Go get him.
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Sign and trade PJ Washington for Powell.
Sign Tyus Jones

The effort we would see in that second line would be unmatched. Use our young guys to give Kawhi, Batum, and Harden nights off

Harden
Kawhi
PJ washington
Dunn
Zubac

Tyus Jones
Bogi
DJJ
Batum
Yabusele


Yes was just going to post about Yabusele.. would luv him on the team.

Seems pretty available and a better situation than the 76ers open starting PF spot too.
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Re: Off season, free agency, coaching change. 

Post#211 » by TrueLAfan » Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:19 pm

Yup. Yabusele would be a good signing.

And maybe we've got an in with him. Laissons Batum lui parler et lui dire à quel point c'est génial ici, n'est-ce pas? 8-)
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Post#212 » by esqtvd » Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:11 pm

TrueLAfan wrote:Yup. Yabusele would be a good signing.

And maybe we've got an in with him. Laissons Batum lui parler et lui dire à quel point c'est génial ici, n'est-ce pas? 8-)


I liked him. Philly liked him. But he seemed slow to me, and the internet agrees.


    In a February 2025 game vs. Oklahoma City, Yabusele was targeted in switches, with Gilgeous-Alexander scoring 12 points on 5-7 shooting when guarded by him (per partial tracking data).

    Film breakdowns from X posts noted Yabusele’s tendency to sag off shooters to avoid being beaten off the dribble, which led to open threes (opponents shot ~38% from three against him in spot minutes).

    Impact: His struggles against faster opponents limited his defensive versatility, making him a situational defender best suited for slower, post-oriented players. This was a particular issue in 2025, as young teams prioritized speed and spacing, forcing Yabusele into unfavorable matchups.

    Yabusele’s struggles against faster opponents stem from his limited lateral quickness, making him vulnerable to quick guards and wings in pick-and-rolls and transition. Observers consistently noted this, with X posts and blogs highlighting his effort but inability to keep up with players like Murray or Butler. His minutes dipped in losses to athletic teams like the Hawks and Heat (e.g., 15-18 minutes vs. 25 season average), as Nick Nurse favored mobile players to counter pace-and-space attacks. This reflects Yabusele’s situational fit in 2025’s NBA, where his physicality and hustle shine against slower teams but falter against the league’s young, athletic rosters. Compared to peak Marcus Morris (2019-20), Yabusele’s defensive limitations are more exposed due to the era’s faster pace, despite his edge in physicality.

    X posts from Sixers fans in February 2025 noted Nurse’s tendency to bench Yabusele in blowouts against athletic teams, with comments like “Yabu’s too slow for these young guards” and “he’s great in the paint but gets cooked on the perimeter.”

    Yabusele’s reduced minutes in these games highlight his mismatch against athletic, fast-paced teams, a critical limitation in 2025’s NBA. While he excelled in slower, physical matchups (e.g., vs. Knicks, where he grabbed 8 rebounds in a win), his role shrank when speed was paramount.
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Re: Off season, free agency, coaching change. 

Post#213 » by Ballings7 » Yesterday 1:05 am

esqtvd wrote:
TrueLAfan wrote:Yup. Yabusele would be a good signing.

And maybe we've got an in with him. Laissons Batum lui parler et lui dire à quel point c'est génial ici, n'est-ce pas? 8-)


I liked him. Philly liked him. But he seemed slow to me, and the internet agrees.


    In a February 2025 game vs. Oklahoma City, Yabusele was targeted in switches, with Gilgeous-Alexander scoring 12 points on 5-7 shooting when guarded by him (per partial tracking data).

    Film breakdowns from X posts noted Yabusele’s tendency to sag off shooters to avoid being beaten off the dribble, which led to open threes (opponents shot ~38% from three against him in spot minutes).

    Impact: His struggles against faster opponents limited his defensive versatility, making him a situational defender best suited for slower, post-oriented players. This was a particular issue in 2025, as young teams prioritized speed and spacing, forcing Yabusele into unfavorable matchups.

    Yabusele’s struggles against faster opponents stem from his limited lateral quickness, making him vulnerable to quick guards and wings in pick-and-rolls and transition. Observers consistently noted this, with X posts and blogs highlighting his effort but inability to keep up with players like Murray or Butler. His minutes dipped in losses to athletic teams like the Hawks and Heat (e.g., 15-18 minutes vs. 25 season average), as Nick Nurse favored mobile players to counter pace-and-space attacks. This reflects Yabusele’s situational fit in 2025’s NBA, where his physicality and hustle shine against slower teams but falter against the league’s young, athletic rosters. Compared to peak Marcus Morris (2019-20), Yabusele’s defensive limitations are more exposed due to the era’s faster pace, despite his edge in physicality.

    X posts from Sixers fans in February 2025 noted Nurse’s tendency to bench Yabusele in blowouts against athletic teams, with comments like “Yabu’s too slow for these young guards” and “he’s great in the paint but gets cooked on the perimeter.”

    Yabusele’s reduced minutes in these games highlight his mismatch against athletic, fast-paced teams, a critical limitation in 2025’s NBA. While he excelled in slower, physical matchups (e.g., vs. Knicks, where he grabbed 8 rebounds in a win), his role shrank when speed was paramount.


I've seen games and footage where that isn't really the case with Yabusele, and its more the opposite.. maybe not fitting enough for a starter role, though.

I also think Philly's overall issues as a team last year would expose him more as a role-player. Philly was a bad team the majority of the season, as of course known.

I think if anything, he overall brings what the team needs up front on both ends, and provides solid depth. Definite upgrade over Simmons, as much as I like his utility game he doesn't score enough and probably never will.
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Re: Off season, free agency, coaching change. 

Post#214 » by wakelaunch1 » Yesterday 5:53 pm

He can shoot, rebound, block shots, and defend in the post. He hustles and he rattled the American team. He played well and would be an excellent rotational, sometimes starter for the team. Sometimes is also helps if the other players around you are good defenders. Like he would have DJJ and Batum next to him as some of the best help defenders in the league.
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Re: Off season, free agency, coaching change. 

Post#215 » by KL2 » Yesterday 7:43 pm

7 more workouts:

Tyrese Proctor - 6’6 G
Steven Ashworth - 6’0 G
Tyson Degenhart - 6’8 F
Zach Fremantle - 6’9 PF/C
Steve Settle - 6’10 F
Aniwaniwa Tait-Jones - 6’8 SF
Zakai Ziegler - 5’9 PG
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Post#216 » by TrueLAfan » Yesterday 11:21 pm

I mean, Yabusele isn’t a high quality, 30 mpg starter. An $8-10 million a year free agent in the NBA isn’t going to be; that’s barely half of the MLE.

Would he be useful to us? Yes—maybe very useful. He does have defensive deficiencies against guards on the perimeter … but that’s not why we’d be interested in him. He’s a big that spreads the floor, scores and passes pretty well, is very efficient, and gets offensive boards. Getting 20 mpg out of a player like that would be great. He’s probably not a solution as a starting 4, but he’s a good backup 5 that could play alongside Zubac against some lineups.

Those draft workouts? Summer league cannon fodder.
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Post#217 » by Clemenza » Yesterday 11:39 pm

wakelaunch1 wrote:2 years 20 million. Go get him.
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Sign and trade PJ Washington for Powell.
Sign Tyus Jones

The effort we would see in that second line would be unmatched. Use our young guys to give Kawhi, Batum, and Harden nights off

Harden
Kawhi
PJ washington
Dunn
Zubac

Tyus Jones
Bogi
DJJ
Batum
Yabusele

Didn't Yabusele basically eat himself out of the league years ago before he headed back to Europe? He's tipping the scales once again now. That would be my biggest concern.
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Post#218 » by esqtvd » Today 1:37 am

wakelaunch1 wrote:He can shoot, rebound, block shots, and defend in the post. He hustles and he rattled the American team. He played well and would be an excellent rotational, sometimes starter for the team. Sometimes is also helps if the other players around you are good defenders. Like he would have DJJ and Batum next to him as some of the best help defenders in the league.


Yabusele turns 30 in December, and the Sixers are letting him walk because they don't have the budget for him. I don't think he's a great fit for the Western Conference, though I'm not down on signing him because he might improve in his 2nd NBA season, playing on a better team than the pathetic Sixers. He could eat up minutes at PF for Kawhi and Batum as well as give us some small-ball 5.

He's a spot-up shooter but can't really create his own shot. He hit a nice 38% on threes, mostly open, but only shot 22% on corner 3s. He can get you some points [14.6 per 100 possessions]. Not the offensive threat Mook was in his prime but a better rebounder. Like Mook, he doesn't get to the line much. He's not a shotblocker or rim protector. As noted above, simply not very athletic. But at 6-8, Yabu would bring some much-needed size to the Clippers, and as I said, Philly loved him. He comes to play every night.

If he does come to the Clippers, I guarantee that no matter how many minutes he gets, the internet geniuses will insist he should be getting more, lol. He's that kind of player: A fan favorite but a coach's ticking time bomb when the matchups aren't right. And for a team that loves to switch as much as we do, even worse.

Yabusele’s struggles against faster opponents stem from his limited lateral quickness, making him vulnerable to quick guards and wings in pick-and-rolls and transition. Observers consistently noted this, with X posts and blogs highlighting his effort but inability to keep up with players like Murray or Butler. His minutes dipped in losses to athletic teams like the Hawks and Heat (e.g., 15-18 minutes vs. 25 season average), as Nick Nurse favored mobile players to counter pace-and-space attacks.
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Re: Off season, free agency, coaching change. 

Post#219 » by wakelaunch1 » 31 minutes ago

KL2 wrote:7 more workouts:

Tyrese Proctor - 6’6 G
Steven Ashworth - 6’0 G
Tyson Degenhart - 6’8 F
Zach Fremantle - 6’9 PF/C
Steve Settle - 6’10 F
Aniwaniwa Tait-Jones - 6’8 SF
Zakai Ziegler - 5’9 PG


Degenhart is fun. I watched a lot of his games. he would be a good second round pick. He struggled against the aztecs swarming defense and elite size but he could be a good power forward off the bench

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