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2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III

Moderators: HartfordWhalers, BullyKing, Sixerscan, sixers hoops, Foshan

What should we do at #3?

Ace Bailey
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21%
Tre Johnson
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16%
V.J. Edgecombe
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37%
Other
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Trade
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23%
 
Total votes: 87

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Post#1081 » by youngcrev » Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:42 pm

Criticizing Iguodala for being the fifth best player on the greatest team of all time is such an Ace brain take.
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Post#1082 » by Phillybul » Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:53 pm

Iggy was the ultimate glue guy. I loved him. I feel like if Cooper doesn’t become a superstar, #1 scoring option. He would be Iggy.
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Post#1083 » by eyeatoma » Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:54 pm

Phillybul wrote:Iggy was the ultimate glue guy. I loved him.



He hated Philly.
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Post#1084 » by Phillybul » Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:00 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Phillybul wrote:Iggy was the ultimate glue guy. I loved him.



He hated Philly.


Probably because some Philly fans can be unrealistic and lack grace lol Gave Iggy a bunch of grief because he didn’t fill Iversons shoes.
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Post#1085 » by mjkvol » Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:03 pm

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Flamengo has delivered the omen!!!


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Whoa.... I've been searching for a new lockscreen image for my phone. My son will just have to go 2nd in the gallery


This thread has now officially jumped the shark.

I check in every 2-3 days, and it's mind blowing that the same stuff has been regurgitated over and over for a month plus now.
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Post#1086 » by mjkvol » Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:04 pm

Phillybul wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Phillybul wrote:Iggy was the ultimate glue guy. I loved him.



He hated Philly.


Probably because some Philly fans can be unrealistic and lack grace lol Gave Iggy a bunch of grief because he didn’t fill Iversons shoes.


As soon as he was called "the other AI" it was over for him here.
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Post#1087 » by Arsenal » Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:04 pm

youngcrev wrote:Criticizing Iguodala for being the fifth best player on the greatest team of all time is such an Ace brain take.


Alright, then we'll criticize Iggy for being the best player on a play-in level team. If that's VJ's upside then he's not the right pick at #3 overall. We don't need a tank commander, a treadmill commander, or a mere role player on a contender.
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Post#1088 » by M2J » Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:05 pm

mjkvol wrote:
M2J wrote:
sodmoraes wrote:
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Whoa.... I've been searching for a new lockscreen image for my phone. My son will just have to go 2nd in the gallery


This thread has now officially jumped the shark.

I check in every 2-3 days, and it's mind blowing that the same stuff has been regurgitated over and over for a month plus now.


:dontknow: What happened?
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Post#1089 » by Negrodamus » Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:27 pm

Ace is the best player on a tanking team.
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Post#1090 » by M2J » Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:29 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Ace is the best player on a tanking team.



In present form. That's true, probably of 99%

But at least you can about he l he's the best player of a NBA team. You're improving
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Post#1091 » by youngcrev » Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:30 pm

Arsenal wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Criticizing Iguodala for being the fifth best player on the greatest team of all time is such an Ace brain take.


Alright, then we'll criticize Iggy for being the best player on a play-in level team. If that's VJ's upside then he's not the right pick at #3 overall. We don't need a tank commander, a treadmill commander, or a mere role player on a contender.


If we're doing the player comparison thing where they are literally the player they are compared to if everything works out really well...

Andre Iguodala > Rashard Lewis, Desmond Bane, Tyler Herro
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Post#1092 » by M2J » Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:41 pm

youngcrev wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Criticizing Iguodala for being the fifth best player on the greatest team of all time is such an Ace brain take.


Alright, then we'll criticize Iggy for being the best player on a play-in level team. If that's VJ's upside then he's not the right pick at #3 overall. We don't need a tank commander, a treadmill commander, or a mere role player on a contender.


If we're doing the player comparison thing where they are literally the player they are compared to if everything works out really well...

Andre Iguodala > Rashard Lewis, Desmond Bane, Tyler Herro


Is he though?
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Post#1093 » by Arsenal » Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:46 pm

youngcrev wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Criticizing Iguodala for being the fifth best player on the greatest team of all time is such an Ace brain take.


Alright, then we'll criticize Iggy for being the best player on a play-in level team. If that's VJ's upside then he's not the right pick at #3 overall. We don't need a tank commander, a treadmill commander, or a mere role player on a contender.


If we're doing the player comparison thing where they are literally the player they are compared to if everything works out really well...

Andre Iguodala > Rashard Lewis, Desmond Bane, Tyler Herro


He's nowhere close to Iguodala. Iggy was a better handler and distributor, better defender, and had great size and length.

VJ Melton is only better than Iggy as a spot-up shooter, and even there he's nothing special.
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Post#1094 » by OleSchool » Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:55 pm

Arsenal wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Criticizing Iguodala for being the fifth best player on the greatest team of all time is such an Ace brain take.


Alright, then we'll criticize Iggy for being the best player on a play-in level team. If that's VJ's upside then he's not the right pick at #3 overall. We don't need a tank commander, a treadmill commander, or a mere role player on a contender.


Then why you want Ace?
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Post#1095 » by Negrodamus » Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:01 pm

M2J wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Ace is the best player on a tanking team.



In present form. That's true, probably of 99%

But at least you can about he l he's the best player of a NBA team. You're improving


Bar is on the floor.
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Post#1096 » by AI_Efficiency » Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:02 pm

M2J wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Ace is the best player on a tanking team.



In present form. That's true, probably of 99%

But at least you can about he l he's the best player of a NBA team. You're improving

To this point, Wemby, arguably the best prospect since LeBron, has been the best player on a tanking team these past two years. You’re a huge outlier if you’re a young player that is significantly contributing to winning, let alone being the best player on a winning team.
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Post#1097 » by Negrodamus » Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:06 pm

AI_Efficiency wrote:
M2J wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Ace is the best player on a tanking team.



In present form. That's true, probably of 99%

But at least you can about he l he's the best player of a NBA team. You're improving

To this point, Wemby, arguably the best prospect since LeBron, has been the best player on a tanking team these past two years. You’re a huge outlier if you’re a young player that is significantly contributing to winning, let alone being the best player on a winning team.


The reference was to hating on getting Iguodala at 3 because he was the best player on a fringe playoff team. Ace isn’t even that. I’ve now spelled out the context.
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Post#1098 » by Arsenal » Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:16 pm

OleSchool wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Criticizing Iguodala for being the fifth best player on the greatest team of all time is such an Ace brain take.


Alright, then we'll criticize Iggy for being the best player on a play-in level team. If that's VJ's upside then he's not the right pick at #3 overall. We don't need a tank commander, a treadmill commander, or a mere role player on a contender.


Then why you want Ace?


Extremely athletic TWO-WAY wing with Insane shotmaking potential... like this:

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Post#1099 » by OleSchool » Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:35 pm

Arsenal wrote:
OleSchool wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Alright, then we'll criticize Iggy for being the best player on a play-in level team. If that's VJ's upside then he's not the right pick at #3 overall. We don't need a tank commander, a treadmill commander, or a mere role player on a contender.


Then why you want Ace?


Extremely athletic TWO-WAY wing with Insane shotmaking potential... like this:



I can put together my HS and schoolyard mix tape and you'd swear I'd go D1. I can assure you, I wouldn't even be the water boy for a D3
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NYSixersFan wrote:I'D BE more then happy to debate you or anyone else on specifics


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Post#1100 » by AI_Efficiency » Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:44 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
AI_Efficiency wrote:
M2J wrote:

In present form. That's true, probably of 99%

But at least you can about he l he's the best player of a NBA team. You're improving

To this point, Wemby, arguably the best prospect since LeBron, has been the best player on a tanking team these past two years. You’re a huge outlier if you’re a young player that is significantly contributing to winning, let alone being the best player on a winning team.


The reference was to hating on getting Iguodala at 3 because he was the best player on a fringe playoff team. Ace isn’t even that. I’ve now spelled out the context.

Yea, I’m just saying that the way we talk about these prospects sometimes, I don’t think we realize all of them are likely to fall into the category of, if they are your best player during their rookie contract, you’re probably in trouble. Just takes awhile for a lot of these guys to get to a level where you are leading a team to the playoffs.

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