Curmudgeon wrote:The question is how many Santana-like years Santana has left, not how many Hughes has left. Santana is coming off a bad year (for him), and there is no assurance that he will be as good as Hughes going forward, or for how long.


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Curmudgeon wrote:The question is how many Santana-like years Santana has left, not how many Hughes has left. Santana is coming off a bad year (for him), and there is no assurance that he will be as good as Hughes going forward, or for how long.
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This trade makes us infinitely better for the next 5 years. The only pitcher we give away is Hughes and we replace him with a horse who is still in his prime. Sorry for not caring about 10 years down the road, but that's a crappy reason as to why we shouldn't trade for Santana. Melky is at his highest value ever, he's not any good, and while we will lose a decent fielding centerfielder, we will make up the difference in better pitching.
I really don't think you realize how much of a burden having 3 pitchers with inning limitations will be next year. And I don't think you realize that the learning curve for young pitchers isn't always the same. You are assuming that Hughes will develop into a frontline pitcher. It might not happen.
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There is no assurance than Santana will be as good as Hughes going forward? Are you joking? What has Phil Hughes ever proven?
According to the New York Post, the Red Sox remain "the strong favorite" to acquire Johan Santana.
The newspaper speculates that both "New York teams remain interested," but the Yankees "have become more entrenched in their unwillingness to pay the price" that includes Phil Hughes and a huge contract extension. The Yankees reportedly "have not seriously discussed players with the Twins" since the winter meetings.
Source: New York Post
PacersRule07 wrote:I'm not saying Patterson is better than Melky Cabrera, but there production was about the same last season. It wasn't like this was a product of the NL or anything like that either as Patterson put up those numbers in the AL East. If we want a stopgap for one or two seasons before Austin Jackson is ready, I think we could easily sign Corey Patterson and not lose a whole lot. I like Melky, but his numbers aren't exactly off the charts.
Chach wrote:RotoWorldAccording to the New York Post, the Red Sox remain "the strong favorite" to acquire Johan Santana.
The newspaper speculates that both "New York teams remain interested," but the Yankees "have become more entrenched in their unwillingness to pay the price" that includes Phil Hughes and a huge contract extension. The Yankees reportedly "have not seriously discussed players with the Twins" since the winter meetings.
Source: New York Post
So I'd have to say, no, it's not true. mahalo
~Chach~
Chach wrote:According to Rotoworld, it came out two days after this thread was started. Rotoworld is pretty quick about this stuff and if you follow the link to the actual article, the article is dated December 28th. If you follow my link to Santana's page on rotoworld, you'll see at the bottom of the page the news blip about the Twinkies "lowering" their demands and willing to accept Marquez. That story was from the 26th. So no, that story was pretty recent. mahalo
~Chach~