2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9

[BoyzNTheHood]

They are going to take CMB arent they

If Watson is still the one picking we seem very likely to take CMB unless someone does it before us.

[WuTang_OG]

They are going to take CMB arent they

If Watson is still the one picking we seem very likely to take CMB unless someone does it before us.

its becoming clearer

no connection either pre-draft which means its happening

It's not easy to peg Murray-Boyles' draft range, with most pointing to the Nos. 10-to-16 range, which includes some of the most analytics-influenced teams in the NBA, Atlanta, Oklahoma City and Memphis. NBA teams say Murray-Boyles rates historically well in their draft models, thanks to his strong passing, foul-drawing ability, 2-point shooting, defensive playmaking and youth, which will appeal to several teams in this range.

Murray-Boyles' toughness, unselfishness, defensive versatility and playmaking give him a high floor, even if his lack of size and perimeter shooting might make him a situational fit in certain lineup configurations.

[WuTang_OG]

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I do not understand the Yang lovefest.

He looks like a stiff. A stiff with some skills, but I don’t think he’d get them off against NBA length/athleticism.

Second round shot in the dark? Sure, whatever. 9th or even trading out of 9th to take him later. I don’t know about that.

He shows high processing with passing and protects the rim and validated his skills at the combine.

If you call him a stiff, fair enough but he shouldn't be far off from Clingan and Edey with that respect. The passing makes him a lotto ticket to be have his ceiling be Jokic.

[Rapsfan07]

I just don't have a good feeling about Noa Essengue... not sure what he will excel at in the NBA level. Kon doesn't get me excited that much either (but I am sure he will have a steady career). My top guys I want at 9 are Khaman, Bryant, and maybe even Demin. Would be excited if someone like Tre Johnson or Bailey fall. Also open to trading the pick.

We need to stop taking these unskilled, long, "full of potential", blank canvass types.

Coward will be there, Fleming will be there, Jakuciounas might be there... heck even Carter Bryant will be there.

No need for a wild swing on a guy like Essengue at #9.

[Consequence]

Shouldn't have watched more Jak tape, now I can't get all of the possessions of him being completely unable to get by any quality of defender without a screen out of my head.

[Yeezus_]

Raptors value players that do well analytically, are smart, and play hard.

I have a hard time believing we won’t take Kon if he’s on the board at 9, otherwise it’ll be someone like CMB.

[Rapsfan07]

Raptors value players that do well analytically, are smart, and play hard.

I have a hard time believing we won’t take Kon if he’s on the board at 9, otherwise it’ll be someone like CMB.

If this happens, I hope someone starts a "Fire Masai" thread.

The pick here really should be Coward IMO.

[Yeezus_]

Raptors value players that do well analytically, are smart, and play hard.

I have a hard time believing we won’t take Kon if he’s on the board at 9, otherwise it’ll be someone like CMB.

If this happens, I hope someone starts a "Fire Masai" thread.

The pick here really should be Coward IMO.

Coward looks pretty solid too.

Honestly none of us know how any of these prospects will turn out. Majority of them will be out the league and only a few will potentially be allstars. Asking to Fire Masai because they didn’t draft somone a specific poster wants is a little insane until the player can be properly evaluated years from now.

[Pericles]

I think it’s Maluach or Traore.

[Yeezus_]

Presti drafted Ousmane Dieng over J Dub. No one really knows what these players will end up being tbh

[ArthurVandelay]

I get the Coward hype. However, guy played 6 games this year. Does anyone remember Demin's stats after 6 games of weaker conference opponents?

Demin after 6 games:
15.3 points on 59/47/53 shooting
3.8 rebs
6.7 ast : 2.7 to
2.2 stl

I'd love to have seen Coward play against higher competition for a full season. He looks enticing but he is far from a sure bet after 6 games of preseason D1 competition.

[Psubs]

I get the Coward hype. However, guy played 6 games this year. Does anyone remember Demin's stats after 6 games of weaker conference opponents?

Demin after 6 games:
15.3 points on 59/47/53 shooting
3.8 rebs
6.7 ast : 2.7 to
2.2 stl

I'd love to have seen Coward play against higher competition for a full season. He looks enticing but he is far from a sure bet after 6 games of preseason D1 competition.

Darius Garland played 5 games in his only college season.

[WuTang_OG]

Another layer to this that I keep going back to (and if we see the finals) is playing 5 out. If the plan is to truly optimize Scottie, they should be intentional to get this. That's why I buy the smoke of them trading down and getting a guy like Wolf. We were also at the bottom of 3pt shooting makes and % last year. I get Poeltl is staying but it would be beneficial to get a different look on the court.

[ArthurVandelay]

I get the Coward hype. However, guy played 6 games this year. Does anyone remember Demin's stats after 6 games of weaker conference opponents?

Demin after 6 games:
15.3 points on 59/47/53 shooting
3.8 rebs
6.7 ast : 2.7 to
2.2 stl

I'd love to have seen Coward play against higher competition for a full season. He looks enticing but he is far from a sure bet after 6 games of preseason D1 competition.

Darius Garland played 5 games in his only college season.

Not sure that is an apples to apples comparison.

Garland was a 5-star recruit, a McDonald's All-American, and a consensus top-10 player out of high school. He was drafted as a freshman.

Coward has worked his way from D3 to 2 years in D2 (edit: my bad Eastern Washington isn't D2 but a small D1 in a weaker conference, Big Sky) to 6 games in D1. Coward will be a senior.

[elmer_yuck]

I can’t imagine we take a guard unless there a big trade.
With Quickley, Shead, Barrett, Dick, Walter, Ingram, Agbaji and Battle, there are just no minutes available.
I think the pick will be one of:
Maluach, Queen, Essengue, CMB or Sorber.
It’s unlikely that Maluach will be available at #9.
I like Queen and Sorber, but I doubt Masai will pick them.
So I think the pick will be Essengue or CMB.
I don’t believe anyone we pick will be playing big minutes next season.
Actually, other than Flagg, I don’t think this draft is that great overall.

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I get the Coward hype. However, guy played 6 games this year. Does anyone remember Demin's stats after 6 games of weaker conference opponents?

Demin after 6 games:
15.3 points on 59/47/53 shooting
3.8 rebs
6.7 ast : 2.7 to
2.2 stl

I'd love to have seen Coward play against higher competition for a full season. He looks enticing but he is far from a sure bet after 6 games of preseason D1 competition.

Darius Garland played 5 games in his only college season.

Not sure that is an apples to apples comparison.

Garland was a 5-star recruit, a McDonald's All-American, and a consensus top-10 player out of high school. He was drafted as a freshman.

Coward has worked his way from D3 to 2 years in D2 (edit: my bad Eastern Washington isn't D2 but a small D1 in a weaker conference, Big Sky) to 6 games in D1. Coward will be a senior.

I thought I read that they liked players that transferred to play tougher competition.

Small school, Klay Thompson also went to Washington State. He could be Klay in Jalen Williams body.

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[grant101]

They are going to take CMB arent they

Not the worst outcome. Better than Essengue in any case. If we're swinging on 4s that can't shoot, might as well go with one that can do everything else. In any case, hopefully Fears drops and we can avoid this scenario completely.