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Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8

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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8 

Post#1121 » by nate33 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:56 pm

I imagine this deal will make Phoenix that much more willing to trade Beal for Paul George if such a trade came up. And that opens up the possibility of trading up to #3, absorbing Paul George, and then swapping him for Beal.

Phoenix could actually look like a fairly capable team if they draft CMB at #10 who should mesh well with Jabari Smith:

PG Green/Grayson Allen
SG Booker/Grayson Allen
SF PG/Royce O'Neal
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C Jabari Smith
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8 

Post#1122 » by NatP4 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:01 pm

Phoenix didn’t get Jabari Smith, did they?
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8 

Post#1123 » by nate33 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:05 pm

NatP4 wrote:Phoenix didn’t get Jabari Smith, did they?

:oops:

My bad. I thought they did. Man, without Jabari, that's a pretty bad trade for Houston. I guess there really wasn't a market for Durant.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8 

Post#1124 » by NatP4 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:07 pm

Dark Faze wrote:Can't blame them for going for it but I wouldn't trade #10 a draft like this unless I thought I could improve my playoff chances a lot and I don't think Houston really did with this move. Brooks and Green aren't particularly great but I think as much as KD gives you offensively you lose defensively and in the amount of minutes and games he's able to play over the course of a season. Green and Brooks played 75+ games each. And on top of that KD is about to be a free agent and is gonna want the max money he can get for his final contract. Probably 60+ mil a season.

With this CBA you should really do your best to build organically until you've got no other choice and I think Houston got impatient. They've got enough assets to still be successful but I would be wary about this if I were a Houston fan.


Houston gets out of 100 million after 2025/2026. Green probably has negative value at this point, given his contract.

Phoenix takes on a ton of future money and still doesn’t own their 2027 pick (owed to Houston). Now has 3 highly paid players that play the same position. They are about to turn into the Tommy Sheppard/Bradley Beal Wizards and simply tread water for 2 years.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8 

Post#1125 » by nate33 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:07 pm

We should really see if we can acquire one of Jabari or Eason from Houston. They have too many big wings with Amen, Durant, Jabari and Eason, not to mention Whitmore. I wonder if we could get back one of them in a Jordan Poole trade?

EDIT: It doesn't look possible for salary reasons. They don't have any matching contracts that are expendable.
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Post#1127 » by Hidden Eye » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:15 pm

Now's a good time to get Beal and some picks from
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8 

Post#1128 » by payitforward » Sun Jun 22, 2025 7:57 pm

nate33 wrote:We should really see if we can acquire one of Jabari or Eason from Houston. They have too many big wings with Amen, Durant, Jabari and Eason, not to mention Whitmore. I wonder if we could get back one of them in a Jordan Poole trade?

EDIT: It doesn't look possible for salary reasons. They don't have any matching contracts that are expendable.

Too bad.... Eason would be a major young pick up for us!
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Post#1129 » by WallToWall » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:46 pm

nate33 wrote:We should really see if we can acquire one of Jabari or Eason from Houston. They have too many big wings with Amen, Durant, Jabari and Eason, not to mention Whitmore. I wonder if we could get back one of them in a Jordan Poole trade?

EDIT: It doesn't look possible for salary reasons. They don't have any matching contracts that are expendable.


Poole + Kispert FOR VanVleet + Eason seems to work in the trade machine. Add picks as you see fit.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8 

Post#1131 » by nate33 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:52 pm

WallToWall wrote:
nate33 wrote:We should really see if we can acquire one of Jabari or Eason from Houston. They have too many big wings with Amen, Durant, Jabari and Eason, not to mention Whitmore. I wonder if we could get back one of them in a Jordan Poole trade?

EDIT: It doesn't look possible for salary reasons. They don't have any matching contracts that are expendable.


Poole + Kispert FOR VanVleet + Eason seems to work in the trade machine. Add picks as you see fit.

I don't think Houston can afford to trade VanVleet.
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Post#1133 » by closg00 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:11 pm

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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8 

Post#1134 » by NatP4 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:46 pm

nate33 wrote:We should really see if we can acquire one of Jabari or Eason from Houston. They have too many big wings with Amen, Durant, Jabari and Eason, not to mention Whitmore. I wonder if we could get back one of them in a Jordan Poole trade?

EDIT: It doesn't look possible for salary reasons. They don't have any matching contracts that are expendable.


They don’t need that Reed Sheppard guy, right?
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8 

Post#1135 » by nate33 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:04 pm

NatP4 wrote:
nate33 wrote:We should really see if we can acquire one of Jabari or Eason from Houston. They have too many big wings with Amen, Durant, Jabari and Eason, not to mention Whitmore. I wonder if we could get back one of them in a Jordan Poole trade?

EDIT: It doesn't look possible for salary reasons. They don't have any matching contracts that are expendable.


They don’t need that Reed Sheppard guy, right?

Sadly, they probably do. They're overloaded at forward, but the only guards they have are VanVleet and Sheppard.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8 

Post#1136 » by DukeLecker » Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:49 pm

Any way to get smart to Houston with whitmore coming back to DC? Not sure how to make salaries match. Ime coached smart in Boston when he won DPOTY.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8 

Post#1137 » by gambitx777 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:01 am

The reality that that trade wasn't van fleet and Smith Jr with more picks is crazy to me.

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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8 

Post#1138 » by 9 and 20 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:41 am

Trade Poole to the Suns. Give them an all undersized shooting guard lineup, half of them former wizards. Hope they hire Scott Brooks to actually run that lineup.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8 

Post#1139 » by PaulinVA » Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:09 am

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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8 

Post#1140 » by WallToWall » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:26 am

In the end, the Suns valued the number of picks and high picks, over reasonably good players who could keep them as a mid-tier team. This probably means that they are expecting to tank, and it also means that they will be trading as many of their assets as they can for more picks.

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