Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning

[FrenchMinnyFan]

I think 25 others NBA team would to have a poorly constructed team as his Minny . I know off season is the season of speculation but if we are realistic, it's not easy to make big moves right now considering our financial situation.

On my opinion we have 2 options only :
A/
- Getting a starter PG if we can even it's very unlikely we can build a trade who won't cost us big.
- Getting a back up big
- Keep Naz and Randle.

B/ We consider that this group can't win and in this case , trade Rudy, Randle for something bigger. More easy to speak than make it done.

If i was the GM, after 2 WCF finals, i do think we are not far to make the next step so i would probably go for option A.

ANT, Jaden, NAZ, TSJ, Clark, Rob will keep improving. Randle and Rudy are solid players, DDV is a great shooter, Mike is the captain. We are good. This only move i would make is trading NAW. IT will allow more mins for the others young's. I love NAW but he is not essential.

[Nick K]

BRO OUT: Cameron Johnson, Whitehead, Lewis, 26th pick
BRO IN: Vucevic, DDV,

Why for BRO: get a tradeable assets

CHI OUT: Vucevic, Ball, Smith
CHI IN: Gobert, Whitehead, Lewis

Why for CHI: continues rebuild, maybe Giddey can run pick-n-rolls with Gobert like prime Ingles did

MIN OUT: Gobert, DDV
MIN IN: Johnson, Ball, Smith, 26th pick

Why for MIN: replace DDV with comparable shooter, but at SF/PF position, create room and roles for Dillingham, Clark, add backup/temporary solution at PG in Ball and Smith, get additional pick.

Re-sign both Reid and Randle, NAW. Draft Sorber, and Thiero at 26 and 31.

Smith/Reid/Sorber
Randle/Johnson/Thiero
McDaniels/TJ/Minott
Edwards/Clark/???
Ball/Dilllngham/Conley

These things never work out but I'd do this in a heartbeat. I'm all for taking a chance on Ball and I like Smith too. Nice idea.

NAW won't be back. Just sayin. I love Sorber but he's rising and probably won't fall to us. He'd be our center of the future. Plus, I can't wait to move Rudy.

[thinktank]

Sorber’s hands are smaller than some of the guards in the draft. He looks clunky. I just don’t see it.

[karch34]

Alright, let's see how much hate I get...

Por out: Simons
In: Randle, Miller

MN in: Simons
Out: Randle, Miller

Why? MN gets a dynamic combo guard with one year remaining on contract to pair with Edwards. Simons playing situation has limited his ability, next to Ant he could thrive. If it doesn't work, he expires. Also clears space for Naz at the 4.

PG - Simons, Conley, Dilly
SG - Ant, DD, Clark
SF - McDaniels, TSJ
PF - Naz, 17/31 (Sorber/Newell, Wolf) vet fa
C. - Gobert, 17/31(Beringer, Kalkbrenner), Garza

Why Portland? They move Simons, who has given them a dilemma in the backcourt. Also, they get Randle to give them a PF, again an expiring that will come off the cap. And Miller as a prospect. Randle and Ayton could actually be enough to get them to the play in, or get them a nice trade return down the road.

PG - Henderson, Banton
SG - Sharpe, Thybule/Rupert
SF - Avdija, Murray/Camara
PF - Randle, Camara/Miller
C. - Ayton, Clingan, Reath

I like it but your forgetting Jeremi Grant is still there.

[Nick K]

I think 25 others NBA team would to have a poorly constructed team as his Minny . I know off season is the season of speculation but if we are realistic, it's not easy to make big moves right now considering our financial situation.

On my opinion we have 2 options only :
A/
- Getting a starter PG if we can even it's very unlikely we can build a trade who won't cost us big.
- Getting a back up big
- Keep Naz and Randle.

B/ We consider that this group can't win and in this case , trade Rudy, Randle for something bigger. More easy to speak than make it done.

If i was the GM, after 2 WCF finals, i do think we are not far to make the next step so i would probably go for option A.

ANT, Jaden, NAZ, TSJ, Clark, Rob will keep improving. Randle and Rudy are solid players, DDV is a great shooter, Mike is the captain. We are good. This only move i would make is trading NAW. IT will allow more mins for the others young's. I love NAW but he is not essential.

I can't wait to move both Gobert and Randle. Both should be valued. I'd love to get Giannis.

[cmoss84]

I'd be all for extracting value out of Rudy, before he slowly declines.. but we need him unless we get another c back.

Maybe lively? 17 enough? Probably not.

How do we get value out of Julius? He is not a guy we want on the team long-term.

Our team is currently constructed poorly, and there isn't a simple 1 for 1 trade benefiting both sides to fix it.

I wouldn't mind connelly taking a risk, but at the same time.. it's a difficult decision. Don't want to run it back, but not convinced there may be any other option..

Love the idea of going after Lively. How many big men can they have, and Gafford just extended.
Maybe something around DDV. Or #17/#31.

[cmoss84]

Actually Rob for Lively is pretty damn close. I'm sure they'd want a pick as well. I'd be thrilled with that.

[Loaf_of_bread]

If we are serious about a run next year, we need a guy like lively. I'm ok with ddv plus 31 if that is his value. No clue what it would take to get him though..

[Loaf_of_bread]

Actually Rob for Lively is pretty damn close. I'm sure they'd want a pick as well. I'd be thrilled with that.

Rob is currently untouchable, even though he may not turn into much.. would prefer to risk he plays well next year

[Nick K]

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If this is what really was offered and turned down, Mr. white not coming to Minnesota.

I don't believe any of that. Can't be true.

[Nick K]

Alright hear me out. It's summer school and the boredom is fierce. Milwaukee uses this year as a bridge year to contend AND rebuild. Get a haul for Giannis. Nets have a ton of picks, and decide to move a couple of them to sign Randle (they pick Julius over Beal). We give up everything we can to build around Ant/Jaden/Giannis, then monopolize free agency with a lot of freed up money and ring chasers (PG/PF/C).

Mil IN: Rudy, Naz (extend), DDV, RD, #17, #26, #27, #31, 2030 FRP (SAS)
Mil OUT: Giannis
RD (Lillard in '26)/DDV/Kuzma/Naz/Rudy
*Under 1st apron*

Nets IN: Randle and Minott
Nets OUT: #26 and #27
#8/#19/Cam Johnson/Randle/Claxton
*Under 1st apron*

MN IN: Giannis
MN OUT: Rudy, Randle, Naz, RD, DDV, Minott, #17, #31, 2030 FRP (SAS)
VET PG/Ant/Jaden/Giannis/Vet C
Mike/Clark/TSJ/FA/FA
Miller/Garza/FA/FA
*Under 1st apron*
($73m for 6 FA)

I love Giannis but giving up Gobert, Randle, DDV, Naz, Minott, Dilly and all those picks for Giannis???? Come on! We're sending out 120 million. Ridiculous.

How about Gobert and Randle plus a pick. That's all I'd give up. OK you could throw in Minott too. How is Minott for a sweetner?

[Nick K]

I'd be all for extracting value out of Rudy, before he slowly declines.. but we need him unless we get another c back.

Maybe lively? 17 enough? Probably not.

How do we get value out of Julius? He is not a guy we want on the team long-term.

Our team is currently constructed poorly, and there isn't a simple 1 for 1 trade benefiting both sides to fix it.

I wouldn't mind connelly taking a risk, but at the same time.. it's a difficult decision. Don't want to run it back, but not convinced there may be any other option..

I love this post. The time to move Gobert and Randle is right now while their value is the highest. I'd love Giannis. Then i'd draft Sorber, Even Kalkbrenner.

[Nick K]

Alright, let's see how much hate I get...

Por out: Simons
In: Randle, Miller

MN in: Simons
Out: Randle, Miller

Why? MN gets a dynamic combo guard with one year remaining on contract to pair with Edwards. Simons playing situation has limited his ability, next to Ant he could thrive. If it doesn't work, he expires. Also clears space for Naz at the 4.

PG - Simons, Conley, Dilly
SG - Ant, DD, Clark
SF - McDaniels, TSJ
PF - Naz, 17/31 (Sorber/Newell, Wolf) vet fa
C. - Gobert, 17/31(Beringer, Kalkbrenner), Garza

Why Portland? They move Simons, who has given them a dilemma in the backcourt. Also, they get Randle to give them a PF, again an expiring that will come off the cap. And Miller as a prospect. Randle and Ayton could actually be enough to get them to the play in, or get them a nice trade return down the road.

PG - Henderson, Banton
SG - Sharpe, Thybule/Rupert
SF - Avdija, Murray/Camara
PF - Randle, Camara/Miller
C. - Ayton, Clingan, Reath

I like it but your forgetting Jeremi Grant is still there.

Jeremi Grant is pure fools gold. No thanks.

[karch34]

Alright, let's see how much hate I get...

Por out: Simons
In: Randle, Miller

MN in: Simons
Out: Randle, Miller

Why? MN gets a dynamic combo guard with one year remaining on contract to pair with Edwards. Simons playing situation has limited his ability, next to Ant he could thrive. If it doesn't work, he expires. Also clears space for Naz at the 4.

PG - Simons, Conley, Dilly
SG - Ant, DD, Clark
SF - McDaniels, TSJ
PF - Naz, 17/31 (Sorber/Newell, Wolf) vet fa
C. - Gobert, 17/31(Beringer, Kalkbrenner), Garza

Why Portland? They move Simons, who has given them a dilemma in the backcourt. Also, they get Randle to give them a PF, again an expiring that will come off the cap. And Miller as a prospect. Randle and Ayton could actually be enough to get them to the play in, or get them a nice trade return down the road.

PG - Henderson, Banton
SG - Sharpe, Thybule/Rupert
SF - Avdija, Murray/Camara
PF - Randle, Camara/Miller
C. - Ayton, Clingan, Reath

I like it but your forgetting Jeremi Grant is still there.

Jeremi Grant is pure fools gold. No thanks.

Wasn’t saying he comes back to us only that he is still a heavily paid PF not accounted for on their books. Moot with Holliday trade anyway.

[minimus]

It looks like in current NBA reality even washed up veterans like KD and Jrue worth more than young and talented garbage scorers like Simons and Green.

[Neeva]

Inefficient chuckers with no D are out, thank god.
KD isn’t as washed(yet) as Jrue though

[minimus]

Lakers Are Favorites To Land Bam Adebayo In Potential Trade Deal With Heat

If MIA make Bam available I hope TC gets him.

BRO IN: Gobert, DDV, Robinson
BRO OUT: Cameron Johnson, Claxton, Whitehead, Lewis, 26th, 27th picks

Why for BRO: get a tradeable assets

MIA IN: Dillingham, Reid (sign-and-trade), Claxton, 17th, 27th picks, Whitehead, Lewis
MIA OUT: Bam, Robinson

Why for MIA: rebuild, trade Bam his extension

MIN IN: Bam, Johnson, 26th pick
MIN OUT: Gobert, DDV, Reid, Dillingham, 17th pick

Why for MIN: get long-term solution at C, replace DDV with comparable shooter, but at SF/PF position, get additional pick. Stay in win-now mode

Re-sign both Randle, NAW. Draft Walter Clayton Jr., and Kalkbrenner at 26 and 31.

Bam/Kalkbrenner/Miller
Randle/Johnson/McDaniels
McDaniels/TJ/Minott
Edwards/Clark/NAW
NAW/WCJ/Conley

[Norseman79]

Prediction - Simons makes all-star team/wins MIP award.

[ILC]

Too little for Zion? No need for DET at all? Would NOP just take Randle and Rob for themselves?

This for me would address A LOT of the biggest needs the Wolves have. Both Lonzo and Zion love to push the pace, love to put pressure on the rim, both are great passers and Rudy would finally have someone to throw him lobs.

Then if Fears is really falling that hard at #17 that'd be a homerun IMO.

[Guest84]

Too little for Zion? No need for DET at all? Would NOP just take Randle and Rob for themselves?

This for me would address A LOT of the biggest needs the Wolves have. Both Lonzo and Zion love to push the pace, love to put pressure on the rim, both are great passers and Rudy would finally have someone to throw him lobs.

Then if Fears is really falling that hard at #17 that'd be a homerun IMO.

Wolves would be taking on a TON of risk in that deal.