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Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Ishbia standing over everyone is exactly what you don’t want from your leader.
Ishbia is a control freak who is destroying this team. The best leaders are the ones who put smarter people around them and let them cook. The worst leaders are the ones who put “yes sir” people around them. Guess which one Ishbia is.
Qwigglez wrote:Solid trade where Suns don't have to give up a pick and get rid of Beal.Spoiler:
I know everyone is going to hate it, but the Suns have a more balanced roster. Both contracts expire a year earlier than Beals contract.
thamadkant wrote:Qwigglez wrote:Solid trade where Suns don't have to give up a pick and get rid of Beal.Spoiler:
I know everyone is going to hate it, but the Suns have a more balanced roster. Both contracts expire a year earlier than Beals contract.
I want that trade.
But Blazers trading for a floor leader in Jrue strongly suggest they smell weakness out west for the 7 to 8 spots in the west playoff standings....
Their lineup of Ayton, Camara, Deni, Scoot was a huge plus stats and eye test wise... adding Jrue to that would elevate it significantly while they have Sharpe and Bannon off the bench.
Frank Lee wrote:Jeezus… it’s come to wanting Wee’Andre back .. oh brother
bwgood77 wrote:Frank Lee wrote:Jeezus… it’s come to wanting Wee’Andre back .. oh brother
Well we haven't won a playoff game since he left. The minute we traded him it was all downhill.
BobbieL wrote:Qwigglez wrote:Solid trade where Suns don't have to give up a pick and get rid of Beal.Spoiler:
I know everyone is going to hate it, but the Suns have a more balanced roster. Both contracts expire a year earlier than Beals contract.
Why would the Blazers do this? I think you live in the PDX so you might have more knowledge - but Beal is 53 this year and 57m next year -- it would take more than a FRP
Now, Jrue and Grant for Beal - -I can see that working if the Suns can add a salary
TeamTragic wrote:
Celtics are already tanking lol
Qwigglez wrote:BobbieL wrote:Qwigglez wrote:Solid trade where Suns don't have to give up a pick and get rid of Beal.Spoiler:
I know everyone is going to hate it, but the Suns have a more balanced roster. Both contracts expire a year earlier than Beals contract.
Why would the Blazers do this? I think you live in the PDX so you might have more knowledge - but Beal is 53 this year and 57m next year -- it would take more than a FRP
Now, Jrue and Grant for Beal - -I can see that working if the Suns can add a salary
Blazers are trying to make the playoffs this year and they don't want to extend Ayton. To me, Beal's contract for two seasons isn't that tough a pill to swallow, especially when you got Shaedon Sharpe, Toumani looking for extensions soon. Then follow up with Deni looking to get paid, and then Jrue's salary is off the books when Beal's contract expires at the same time, and then even Jerami Grant. Salary cap wise, it makes a bit of sense as opposed to extending Ayton if you are the Blazers. It would obviously depend on whether or not Beal would accept a deal to go the Blazers. I do think Beal would perform better in a smaller market.
thamadkant wrote:Qwigglez wrote:Solid trade where Suns don't have to give up a pick and get rid of Beal.Spoiler:
I know everyone is going to hate it, but the Suns have a more balanced roster. Both contracts expire a year earlier than Beals contract.
I want that trade.
But Blazers trading for a floor leader in Jrue strongly suggest they smell weakness out west for the 7 to 8 spots in the west playoff standings....
Their lineup of Ayton, Camara, Deni, Scoot was a huge plus stats and eye test wise... adding Jrue to that would elevate it significantly while they have Sharpe and Bannon off the bench.
TeamTragic wrote:Sunsdeuce wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Ishbia standing over everyone is exactly what you don’t want from your leader.
Ishbia is a control freak who is destroying this team. The best leaders are the ones who put smarter people around them and let them cook. The worst leaders are the ones who put “yes sir” people around them. Guess which one Ishbia is.
Dude we get it you don't like Ishbia.
Low hanging fruit at this point.
garrick wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:Sunsdeuce wrote:Real question. Is Grayson Allen an asset or will he be hard to trade? Will we get a good return or will we need to attach picks to get rid of him?
I think he'll be hard to trade. It's not because he's super expensive or he doesn't bring value but just most teams are either kind of set at the 2 or the money is hard to match. I've had a glance as like 2 dozen teams who might be able to use him and matching salaries is tough.
I look at a team like Detroit who are on the up and up and they were 3rd last in the playoffs in 3PA/3P%. In the regular season they were 22nd in attempts and 17th in 3P%. They could certainly use a guy in Grayson who could bomb 3's at a good clip and still play defense, move the ball around etc. Is someone like Beef Stew available at around $15m? Duren is up for an extension I believe and I'm not sure what's going on with Paul Reed but he could probably give you about 80% of Stewarts production for maybe half the price?
What about the Grizzlies. They just moved Bane and I don't think they are keeping Kennard, that's 2 of their high output, high efficiency shooters gone. KCP is dog doodoo from 3 this past season and Cole Anthony has always been a below average shooter. Could they use a reliable 3PT shooter for Cole and filler?
I think Grayson did make into Bill Simmons top 10 list of current worst contracts or something on his podcast a few months back.
His actual value is around 10-14M but he'll be paid in his final year at 19M which is tough to swallow for a lot of teams given his ceiling which is not that high. He did play out of his mind in his contract year and predictably fell off this season after he got that fat paycheck.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/26987/grayson-allen
bwgood77 wrote:Frank Lee wrote:Jeezus… it’s come to wanting Wee’Andre back .. oh brother
Well we haven't won a playoff game since he left. The minute we traded him it was all downhill.
BobbieL wrote:TeamTragic wrote:
Celtics are already tanking lol
If Jaylen Brown has a surgery in like September or October.... the full on tank is on...
I think Steven has shed like $26-28m trading Jrue and Porz
SweaterBae wrote:It's the perfect trade when nobody is happy.
SkyBill40 wrote:BobbieL wrote:TeamTragic wrote:
Celtics are already tanking lol
If Jaylen Brown has a surgery in like September or October.... the full on tank is on...
I think Steven has shed like $26-28m trading Jrue and Porz
They've managed to shed enough to drop themselves out of the second apron and that is an accomplishment in and of itself. Ishbia should take some damned notes.
KdoubleDees23 wrote:SkyBill40 wrote:BobbieL wrote:
If Jaylen Brown has a surgery in like September or October.... the full on tank is on...
I think Steven has shed like $26-28m trading Jrue and Porz
They've managed to shed enough to drop themselves out of the second apron and that is an accomplishment in and of itself. Ishbia should take some damned notes.
You all would be crying if we were Boston fans
SweaterBae wrote:It's the perfect trade when nobody is happy.