2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion

[Saberestar]

Gambo:

Suns are moving up in second round

LETSSSSS GO!!

[dremill24]

Adding No. 36 for two future 2nds

[KdoubleDees23]

Adding No. 36 for two future 2nds

Hope we get Fleming.

Fleming and Late 2nd get Caleb Love.

[Sunsdeuce]

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/nba/massive-trade-deal-strikes-between-nets-suns-prior-nba-draft-2091326

[WeekapaugGroove]

Oh that's potentially Kam Jones territory at 36.

[TeamTragic]

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/nba/massive-trade-deal-strikes-between-nets-suns-prior-nba-draft-2091326

BOOM

[WeekapaugGroove]

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/nba/massive-trade-deal-strikes-between-nets-suns-prior-nba-draft-2091326

''massive' made me literally lol

[Fo-Real]

36 isn't low enough.

[Sunsdeuce]

https://www.si.com/nba/nba-draft-best-available-players-in-the-second-round

Best available. I don’t see Fleming lasting to 36

[Qwigglez]

I like Fleming. If Suns get him, I'd say the Suns nailed the draft.

[RaisingArizona]

GoK. What we doing

[Djedefre]

Maluach IS NOT the best center in this draft. No matter how many times you type it, it won't become a fact. He may become the best in 3-4 years, but right now the odds don't look so great. Not to say it's impossible, just that it's far more likely he becomes a bust than some kind of an anchor for us in years to come. With him, we're left with hope he develops into a solid starting C, and hope is a dangerous thing. We all know that.

He was first C drafted and you'd be hard pressed to find many sites that didn't have him the top ranked C prospect. Shrug

Dragan Bender was pretty much consensus top5 pick that damned year, based on the same 'evaluation process' from all the same sites and draftheads. All that silly talk about some huge potential, great promise when almost none of them actually saw him play real games. His whole draft stock was built on that smoke of 'potential' and unicorn-ish appearance when in reality there was so small a sample to judge from, and even that was not particularly impressive whatsoever.

Back to Maluach - he did not play a ton of minutes, was on a loaded Duke squad, did not show any really impressive trait. Defense was good, but nothing out of this world, he was finishing the most basic things after being served on a pletter while being like half a foot taller than 99% of competition. Not an impressive rebounder for his size, like at all. He is tall, has big wingspan, played for Duke and that's why people are so high on him. Shooting and bball iq are big unknowns. I did not see anything from him that makes me particularly excited. Maybe he's a hard worker and will improve over the years, but he certainly has A LOT of work to do.

[RaisingArizona]

Gotta be a PG we like, right?

[RaisingArizona]

Sion James?

[TeamTragic]

Maluach IS NOT the best center in this draft. No matter how many times you type it, it won't become a fact. He may become the best in 3-4 years, but right now the odds don't look so great. Not to say it's impossible, just that it's far more likely he becomes a bust than some kind of an anchor for us in years to come. With him, we're left with hope he develops into a solid starting C, and hope is a dangerous thing. We all know that.

He was first C drafted and you'd be hard pressed to find many sites that didn't have him the top ranked C prospect. Shrug

Dragan Bender was pretty much consensus top5 pick that damned year, based on the same 'evaluation process' from all the same sites and draftheads. All that silly talk about some huge potential, great promise when almost none of them actually saw him play real games. His whole draft stock was built on that smoke of 'potential' and unicorn-ish appearance when in reality there was so small a sample to judge from, and even that was not particularly impressive whatsoever.

Back to Maluach - he did not play a ton of minutes, was on a loaded Duke squad, did not show any really impressive trait. Defense was good, but nothing out of this world, he was finishing the most basic things after being served on a pletter while being like half a foot taller than 99% of competition. Not an impressive rebounder for his size, like at all. He is tall, has big wingspan, played for Duke and that's why people are so high on him. Shooting and bball iq are big unknowns. I did not see anything from him that makes me particularly excited. Maybe he's a hard worker and will improve over the years, but he certainly has A LOT of work to do.

You just compared this pick to Bender. Are you being serious?

[bwgood77]

Maluach Was mocked anywhere from 6-15 in this draft. Suns acting like it was impossible he would fall to them at 10 is pure ignorance. Even if they thought he wouldn’t drop, you wait to see how it plays out BEFORE you make a trade where you overpay (again) for a player.

It’s not like the Suns had to wait all night to see how it would play out. And I think it’s very apparent now, Mark Williams wasn’t getting the value around the league the Hornets wanted so they turned to good ole reliable Mr overpay himself, Mr Ishbia.

I’m seeing a lot of excuses for this botched trade. It’s ok to call a duck a duck. This was a silly ill advised, unprepared trade to get Mark Williams.

And Mark Williams injury history is very real and a cause for pause in any trade scenario thus reducing his value as an asset.

At least it's not some uprotected 1st. I''d have big issues if it was that, but we are talking the 29th pick and Cleveland's pick in 2029 (they were easily the 1 seed in the east and are very young), so I don't think it's that much to give up. Would you feel differently if we gave up 2 2nds for him?

Now the injury stuff is a big deal, which is really the only reason he is there for two very late firsts. But we are talking about a guy that avereges (in 26 pg) over 15 ppg, over 10 rpg, 2.5 apg, 1.2 bpg and .7 spg.

And he is 23 years old. So having a second center when you have a starter that gets you those stats in 26 mpg is something you need. That's still 22 mpg.

And it's injury insurance. It's like Capela and Okongwu or Gafford and Lively, except they are 23 and 18. You need two good Cs. You don't want to have a solid defensive C and team out there but be in trouble any time he sits. It has been awful with Nurkic and Nick Richards.

I don't really know what have been the causes of his injuries, but we really didn't give up a lot. It's very close to two 2nd round picks. Those are always a crap shoot.

The fact he is injury prone also should help us with contract concerns. Maybe we can do something like we did with Paul and have a year at a team option and a year not guaranteed or something due to injury history.

[matt131]

Don’t get too excited y’all. Jase Richardson at 36 most likely haha

[Djedefre]

So mr GM. Should the suns have passed on Maluach? If so, who would you have grabbed at 10 that would have made you happen.

I'd trade down, pick up an asset and avoid the pressure od taking someone just because the media and 'pundits' expect it. Or, in this particular case, if we were so desperate for filling the center spot, i'd just make the #29 and select Maxime or Ryan and use the #10 as a trade chip to improve and balance out the roster.

Why would we trade down if the player we want dropped outside the top 5 and was available at #10?

You are not making any sense and it appears you just want to complain.

He asked me what would i do, and i provided an answer. I'm aware Ishbia, GM and FO probably wanted Khaman and would've picked him even higher, but nevertheless, in my eyes it is a mistake. I'm not okay with Maluach at #10, let alone higher.

[RaisingArizona]

Kam Jones it is

[Sunsdeuce]

Best available in our range

1. Rasheer Fleming, St. Joseph’s Hawks
Fleming was one of the most physically gifted players in the draft. He’s got great size at over 6' 8" without shoes with a 7' 5" wingspan and a chiseled frame. He has consistently improved after being overshadowed in high school by top recruits D.J. Wagner and Aaron Bradshaw, blossoming into a star this season at St. Joseph’s. He possesses real defensive versatility and shot 39% from three this season.

2. Maxime Raynaud, Stanford Cardinal
Raynaud played his way into serious first-round consideration at the NBA draft combine, but ended up falling to Day 2. He’ll be highly sought after early in Thursday’s second round, looking like a potential plug-and-play big man option whose ability to stretch the floor is his clearest ticket to NBA minutes.

3. Ryan Kalkbrenner, Creighton Bluejays
Kalkbrenner is an all-time great at Creighton after a monster five-year career. He’s not for everyone due to his slender frame and limited versatility, but it’s not hard to imagine him carving out a similar role on a contender to the one that Luke Kornet played so well for the Boston Celtics this season.

4. Noah Penda, Le Mans (France)
Penda is the type of ready-made role player everyone is looking for, a multi-positional forward with elite feel for the game who can add a lot of value without needing the ball in his hands. I expected to hear his name called in the latter part of the first round, and he shouldn’t have to wait long to get picked Thursday night.

5. Adou Thiero, Arkansas Razorbacks
Thiero is an elite defender, with the size, athleticism and motor to guard up and down the lineup and carve out early minutes that way. His inconsistencies as a three-point shooter and rumored concerns about his medicals likely contributed to his fall out of the first round, but he’s someone who has consistently gotten better over his three-year college career and has more upside to tap into still.

6. Kam Jones, Marquette Golden Eagles
Jones took to full-time point guard duties quite well in his senior year, dragging the Golden Eagles to the NCAA tournament. His three-point shooting numbers fell off big-time from his time playing off the ball, and he’s likely going to have to play the point at the next level due to his size. He’s worth a flier early in the second round as someone who has consistently produced at an elite level against top college competition.

7. Johni Broome, Auburn Tigers
Broome was neck-and-neck with Cooper Flagg for national player of the year honors for much of the year, blossoming into a dominant force over his five-year college career. He’s a limited athlete and will likely struggle defending in space at the next level, but there’s a role out there for someone as good on the boards as Broome is, especially when you add his continued offensive skill development to the picture.

8. Chaz Lanier, Tennessee Volunteers
Lanier is as elite a shooter as you’ll find, having made a ridiculous 123 triples at 40% this year as Tennessee’s top offensive option. He’s a late bloomer who just two years ago was a rising senior at North Florida having averaged fewer than five points per game the previous year. His athletic testing at the combine likely helped assuage concerns about him translating up to the next level.

https://www.si.com/nba/si-am-five-notes-from-the-nba-draft