[Shams] Masai Ujiri is out as Vice Chairman and President of the Toronto Raptors

[YogurtProducer]

I’m telling you, Bell, LarryT and Masai getting expansion in Montreal soon. I think Silver sees it as a way to make inroads to France and Europe

This would be delicious and hilarious

Honeslty if it happened I’d have to debate jumping ship

I got no real connections to Toronto but do to Montreal (I understand the irony of being a leafs, not habs fan), and I got a feeling this team by Roger’s is gonna get just ran straight into the ground.

[douggood]

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So Keith Pelley is the guy we’re going to hate now. I looked up his resume and the guy is a former Rogers media executive. Shocker. Let’s hope he knows ball

WTF does a media exec know about the landscape of the NBA?!

you could say same thing about Tim Lieweike, what does a property developer know about sports, but was the best MLSE president.

[binjumper]

So pretty much what you’re saying is Masai isn’t a top tier ship because of pretty much 1 year where he didn’t rebuild when he maybe should have?

He’s made immensely more good moves than bad moves. Even in the last 12 months with grabbing JKW/Shead/Mogbo/Battle, getting Ingram for cheap, etc.

Yall just haven’t seen the fruits of the last 18ish months yet so don’t appreciate it.

Rating the Ingram move before the guy has played even 1 game and is a known injury-prone player is ridiculous. Man you fell off as a poster.

Getting a guy who has a legit chance at being an all star for the equivalent of a mid 20s pick (NOP got 23 for it) this year is a great trade even if it doesn’t work out.

The risk is worth it - you can always evaluate by outcomes and results. Sometimes great processes end poorly, and bad process somehow works out great.

That’s why you lol at en entire body of work. Masais is near the top in the league. Maybe in league history.

You're good bro. This forum is filled with people who think success is instant and have no real understanding of the real world.

[sidsid]

The morons who don't understand the importance of leadership and culture about to get a crash course.

At least we have MAGA Ed at the top! lmaooo

People obsess over draft picks and such, but the real difference Masai made was pushing all the other staff. Better practice facilities, better scouting resources, better health and conditioning etc. He helped to create a top tier basketball operation when the Raps were a laughing stock and largely ignored by their own ownership.

He was a tremendous asset on how other teams and players viewed the org. Regardless of his moves, which I think have been very bad post Giannis FA, that's something that's not going to be replaced until another group achieves a certain level of success and respect.

That's always been the problem with replacing the brain trust. The team needed to pursue a better direction, but any change is a permanent cost in other areas that you can't backfill.

[wow09]

A strictly on-court performance argument could be made to justify this.
But Masai brought a level of credibility that as a Canadian-based team, we needed.
Getting free agents was already a nightmare, Masai at least made it somewhat possible. Retaining our own will also be more difficult.

I miss the days of the original Blue Jays (Labatts) ownership: hire good people, provide resources they need, and stay out of their way.

Exactly Masai is very well respected in NBA circles. The players love him too. Who wouldn't the guy is an amazing success story only Ed Rogers the silver spoon bafoon has an issue with him.

As a Raps fan from 95 this is a very dark day. I fear we will go back to irrelevancy.

There was always a feeling with Masai here that we will be OK.

Im a 95'er too.. and 100% what yopu guys are saying.

Honestly, 3 decades of Raptors ball... and Masai made it easy to relax with the future of the team. Now were going right back into punch line territory... every NBA team.. heck, sports franchise, in the world will be calling about him... but Ed Rogers needed a cheap yes man instead. ugghhhh.. so f#king annoying...

Yup it's only newer fans talking about performance since 2020. Masai meant much more than performance. He provided legitimacy.

If you lived through the dark days of the Raps I think you understand how monumental today is. We could be headed right back there and those days really sucked.

It's a sad day.

[Duffman100]

Rating the Ingram move before the guy has played even 1 game and is a known injury-prone player is ridiculous. Man you fell off as a poster.

Getting a guy who has a legit chance at being an all star for the equivalent of a mid 20s pick (NOP got 23 for it) this year is a great trade even if it doesn’t work out.

The risk is worth it - you can always evaluate by outcomes and results. Sometimes great processes end poorly, and bad process somehow works out great.

That’s why you lol at en entire body of work. Masais is near the top in the league. Maybe in league history.

My god... I can only stare in sheer awe at the top tier fanboyism of this post. This could be framed. How do you even start having a basketball conversation with someone like this? "Even if the trade turns out to be a mistake it was good in theory so that means it was a good trade." Just in sheer awe of you. Genuinely impressive.

Argue the point instead of baiting.

[T0R0NT0_RAPT0RS]

I predict Masai will land in LA with the Lakers new ownership wanting a fresh start.

Can we somehow pry Presti away from OKC?...

[Tom_Foolery]

Overdue.

His player evaluation and roster building style is outdated. Just look at the list and you can see it.

is B-webb gone too? I can only hope.

[TheRealDeal]

So Keith Pelley is the guy we’re going to hate now. I looked up his resume and the guy is a former Rogers media executive. Shocker. Let’s hope he knows ball

WTF does a media exec know about the landscape of the NBA?!

you could say same thing about Tim Lieweike, what does a property developer know about sports, but was the best MLSE president.

LOL don’t compare Tim Lieweike to some dude from Rogers

[TorontoBarneys]

Rating the Ingram move before the guy has played even 1 game and is a known injury-prone player is ridiculous. Man you fell off as a poster.

Getting a guy who has a legit chance at being an all star for the equivalent of a mid 20s pick (NOP got 23 for it) this year is a great trade even if it doesn’t work out.

The risk is worth it - you can always evaluate by outcomes and results. Sometimes great processes end poorly, and bad process somehow works out great.

That’s why you lol at en entire body of work. Masais is near the top in the league. Maybe in league history.

You're good bro. This forum is filled with people who think success is instant and have no real understanding of the real world.

Some of you sound like you would legitimately take a bullet for Masai. It's hard to process that level of... loyalty.

Argue the point instead of baiting.

I literally addressed it in my post. Learn to read.

take some time.

[LoveMyRaps]

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Rogers is f***ing (Please Use More Appropriate Word).
The audacity of this nepo baby. Goofball didn’t have to work for anything unlike Masai. He doesn’t understand a damn thing about running an organization and the logistics behind it.

Everyone knew of Masai — his connections, his upbringing, his background, all made him an executive players wanted to play for.

[anotherhomer]

i'm done....honestly....

[Dr Positivity]

Oh no, we suck again!!!

[YogurtProducer]

Rating the Ingram move before the guy has played even 1 game and is a known injury-prone player is ridiculous. Man you fell off as a poster.

Getting a guy who has a legit chance at being an all star for the equivalent of a mid 20s pick (NOP got 23 for it) this year is a great trade even if it doesn’t work out.

The risk is worth it - you can always evaluate by outcomes and results. Sometimes great processes end poorly, and bad process somehow works out great.

That’s why you lol at en entire body of work. Masais is near the top in the league. Maybe in league history.

My god... I can only stare in sheer awe at the top tier fanboyism of this post. This could be framed. How do you even start having a basketball conversation with someone like this? "Even if the trade turns out to be a mistake it was good in theory so that means it was a good trade." Just in sheer awe of you. Genuinely impressive.

That’s what you took from the post?

It’s more so I have an understanding that no one bats 100%, and that some moves are risky.

Two different franchises can operate on the exact same principles of drafting, signing, trades, etc. and you could end up with one contender and one bottom feeder because no moves are guaranteed. There’s no route you can take that is guaranteed to end with a contender at the end of the road.

It’s why OKC has a ring and PHI hasn’t made the ECF despite both doing the process. And that’s even with PHI getting an MVP player out of it to.

It’s no fanboy-ism. It’s just a stronger understanding of every move has some level or risk and different levels of reward.

[DG88]

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[WuTang_CMB]

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[PushDaRock]

Just feels bizarre to have them remake the team like this and not see any of it through. If they're looking for a new President as well, Bobby might not be around either.

[MiamiSPX]

I predict Masai will land in LA with the Lakers new ownership wanting a fresh start.

Can we somehow pry Presti away from OKC?...

I'm alone on this prediction but I say Miami is a darkhorse candidate.

[douggood]

Just feels bizarre to have them remake the team like this and not see any of it through. If they're looking for a new President as well, Bobby might not be around either.

they just signed him to extension mlse announced

[YogurtProducer]

Getting a guy who has a legit chance at being an all star for the equivalent of a mid 20s pick (NOP got 23 for it) this year is a great trade even if it doesn’t work out.

The risk is worth it - you can always evaluate by outcomes and results. Sometimes great processes end poorly, and bad process somehow works out great.

That’s why you lol at en entire body of work. Masais is near the top in the league. Maybe in league history.

You're good bro. This forum is filled with people who think success is instant and have no real understanding of the real world.

Some of you sound like you would legitimately take a bullet for Masai. It's hard to process that level of... loyalty.

Argue the point instead of baiting.

I literally addressed it in my post. Learn to read.

Nope - I just think the guy has good process and I understand where the moves come from. I also understand there’s no guarantees in the world and especially not in the NBA.

Has he made bad moves? 100%. Every GM does. But I don’t think he’s ever had bad process.