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2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1661 » by Beenie » Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:53 pm

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on a positive note, Ty Jerome avail?


I’m not sure Ty would look forward to backing up Tyler after what he did to him in the playoffs last year. He probably has no interest joining us.


Considering the current age of the core of this team and the age of the guys they're looking to get rid of, it would surprise me if the Heat had any interest in giving money to soon to be 28 year old UFA Ty Jerome. At least they shouldn't. Anybody they bring in who is gonna take minutes away from recent draft picks should not be a career backup.


No to Davion then too eh?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1662 » by fincane30 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:12 pm

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I’m not sure Ty would look forward to backing up Tyler after what he did to him in the playoffs last year. He probably has no interest joining us.


Considering the current age of the core of this team and the age of the guys they're looking to get rid of, it would surprise me if the Heat had any interest in giving money to soon to be 28 year old UFA Ty Jerome. At least they shouldn't. Anybody they bring in who is gonna take minutes away from recent draft picks should not be a career backup.


No to Davion then too eh?


Davion is younger. And has a skill most of our perimeter players do not. POA defense. And as it stands we only have one PG on the roster they actually want to keep. Kasparas. So there is a need. But even no guarantee with Davion if the Sexton stuff is real. Ty Jerome is another offense first combo guard/wing. We have plenty of those types. While Pelle is probably defender first, he along with Herro and Jaime seem to be the keepers as it stands. Throw in Kasparas and that is 4 guys of similar size I'd rather see play. All younger, three much cheaper.

Ty Jerome aint changing this team's trajectory. Maybe some contender signs him to a Strus type deal. Maybe Cleveland does. But he would be a split the difference type of move. Not featuring your youth. Not all in on being a contender. Good player but a progress stopper. We wanna give a guy like that minutes? Just keep Duncan. At least he's expiring.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1663 » by SA37 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:14 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1664 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:16 pm

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Considering the current age of the core of this team and the age of the guys they're looking to get rid of, it would surprise me if the Heat had any interest in giving money to soon to be 28 year old UFA Ty Jerome. At least they shouldn't. Anybody they bring in who is gonna take minutes away from recent draft picks should not be a career backup.


No to Davion then too eh?


Davion is younger. And has a skill most of our perimeter players do not. POA defense. And as it stands we only have one PG on the roster they actually want to keep. Kasparas. So there is a need. But even no guarantee with Davion if the Sexton stuff is real. Ty Jerome is another offense first combo guard/wing. We have plenty of those types. While Pelle is probably defender first, he along with Herro, Jaime seem to be the keepers as it stands. Throw in Kasparas and that is 4 guys of similar size I'd rather see play. All younger, three much cheaper.

Ty Jerome aint changing this team's trajectory. Maybe some contender signs him to a Strus type deal. Maybe Cleveland does. But he would be a split the difference type of move. Not featuring your youth. Not all in on being a contender. Good player but a progress stopper. We wanna give a guy like that minutes? Just keep Duncan. At least he's expiring.


I mean like a few of our guys he likely shouldn’t be in a major role and will get played off the floor against competent perimeter players who can play both sides of the ball like we saw with him being benched against the Pacers.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1667 » by SA37 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:20 pm

Ty Jerome has had 1 good season and he was playing 20mpg. He's not worth whatever he's going to be demanding, which I'd guess is $20M/season, so 4,-years, $90M or 5-years, ~$115M. Kuminga is looking for a deal in the $120-$150M range.

Imagine a team spending ~$200-$260M on two players who have shown almost nothing in the NBA.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1668 » by contract » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:20 pm

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here is my over-optimistic summary:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TW5UNGbG7ZG1IFImKWrKmgaMbhZM6tBU/view?usp=drive_link

I'm in for a development season, but I doubt the Heat FO or many of the fans are. We own our pick in 2026, which will be a good draft.

I couldn't read whatever that is. "Access denied."

I'm fine with a developmental season as long as we also clean up our cap and build up our assets so we can make a move when a great opportunity arises. I just hate drafting and developing supporting tier players while simultaneously overspending for second tier or ancient talent to keep us in "contention".


Oh, I'm sorry. That was dumb. I'll check the permissions. Maybe this one?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TW5UNGbG7ZG1IFImKWrKmgaMbhZM6tBU/view?usp=sharing

Anybody know Kasparas's real height? It seems to be anywhere from 6'3" to 6'5". I really like Pelle Larsson, if it's not clear. ;-) Serious role player. Good on us.

That's one hell of a summer league roster breakdown. :bowdown:
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1669 » by vagelis » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:31 pm

The Lonzo Ball trade means that Garland will be traded away soon from Cleveland.

Does Miami have interest for him?
Very good player but he didn't fit well with Mitchell
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1670 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:33 pm

SA37 wrote:Ty Jerome has had 1 good season and he was playing 20mpg. He's not worth whatever he's going to be demanding, which I'd guess is $20M/season, so 4,-years, $90M or 5-years, ~$115M. Kuminga is looking for a deal in the $120-$150M range.

Imagine a team spending ~$200-$260M on two players who have shown almost nothing in the NBA.


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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1671 » by Beenie » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:34 pm

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Considering the current age of the core of this team and the age of the guys they're looking to get rid of, it would surprise me if the Heat had any interest in giving money to soon to be 28 year old UFA Ty Jerome. At least they shouldn't. Anybody they bring in who is gonna take minutes away from recent draft picks should not be a career backup.


No to Davion then too eh?


Davion is younger. And has a skill most of our perimeter players do not. POA defense. And as it stands we only have one PG on the roster they actually want to keep. Kasparas. So there is a need. But even no guarantee with Davion if the Sexton stuff is real. Ty Jerome is another offense first combo guard/wing. We have plenty of those types. While Pelle is probably defender first, he along with Herro and Jaime seem to be the keepers as it stands. Throw in Kasparas and that is 4 guys of similar size I'd rather see play. All younger, three much cheaper.

Ty Jerome aint changing this team's trajectory. Maybe some contender signs him to a Strus type deal. Maybe Cleveland does. But he would be a split the difference type of move. Not featuring your youth. Not all in on being a contender. Good player but a progress stopper. We wanna give a guy like that minutes? Just keep Duncan. At least he's expiring.


TBC, the bullet points you mentioned about being a career backup and taking minutes away from the young core dont apply to Davion, right?

So when it comes down to it, the real issue you have is defense perhaps?

Not too familiar with your posting history but where do you stand on Herro?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1672 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:35 pm

vagelis wrote:The Lonzo Ball trade means that Garland will be traded away soon from Cleveland.

Does Miami have interest for him?
Very good player but he didn't fit well with Mitchell


Lonzo has a crazy injury history, one of the top contending teams isn’t going to trade away their all star PG and put all their faith in Lonzo like that imo. If so then yea we should but I highly doubt it. I also doubt we’d be willing to pay the price to get him seeing as our tactic for landing all star level players seems to be lowballing and praying for the best
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1673 » by SA37 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:38 pm

vagelis wrote:The Lonzo Ball trade means that Garland will be traded away soon from Cleveland.

Does Miami have interest for him?
Very good player but he didn't fit well with Mitchell


he's got like 3-years, $125M left on his deal. That is pretty steep.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1674 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:39 pm

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Like Sexton, I wouldn’t be mad at Simons. Either could put up 6MOY numbers off our bench and they’re both expiring. Could be something for either using Duncan’s contract which seems like it would help the Celtics do what they’re trying to do.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1675 » by Beenie » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:40 pm

SA37 wrote:Ty Jerome has had 1 good season and he was playing 20mpg. He's not worth whatever he's going to be demanding, which I'd guess is $20M/season, so 4,-years, $90M or 5-years, ~$115M. Kuminga is looking for a deal in the $120-$150M range.

Imagine a team spending ~$200-$260M on two players who have shown almost nothing in the NBA.


Zero interest in dumb players so no to Kuminga

I like non dumb players so yes to Ty if he can be had at a favorable price
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1676 » by SA37 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:45 pm

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Like Sexton, I wouldn’t be mad at Simons. Either could put up 6MOY numbers off our bench and they’re both expiring. Could be something for either using Duncan’s contract which seems like it would help the Celtics do what they’re trying to do.


Definitely worth a 1-year look.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1677 » by HeatFan_NC » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:46 pm

vagelis wrote:The Lonzo Ball trade means that Garland will be traded away soon from Cleveland.

Does Miami have interest for him?
Very good player but he didn't fit well with Mitchell


That is correct! I don't think they can pay Garland, Mitchell, Mobley, and whoever else that's about to command a big contract extension
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1678 » by HeatFan_NC » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:52 pm

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The successor to Riley will be Zo and I think Wade will slide into Zo’s current role or UD

Nick Arison will take Andy’s place once he’s done


I would love to see Zo and Haslem take on larger roles within the organization. I could see Zo as Riles' replacement. I think he fits the bill.

I think it would have been great if Wade were part owner of the team. The case could be made that he singlehandedly changed the trajectory of the franchise. The guy put the team on his back and delivered the first championship, and then he was instrumental in bringing LeBron and Bosh to Miami. He deserves more than that statue outside the arena
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Post#1679 » by Flash4thewin » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:04 pm

SA37 wrote:Ty Jerome has had 1 good season and he was playing 20mpg. He's not worth whatever he's going to be demanding, which I'd guess is $20M/season, so 4,-years, $90M or 5-years, ~$115M. Kuminga is looking for a deal in the $120-$150M range.

Imagine a team spending ~$200-$260M on two players who have shown almost nothing in the NBA.


To be fair we did spend 180 mil on Lowry and Duncan so its in our nature to make these type of moves unfortunately.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1680 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:05 pm

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Kleber has become underrated due to recent injury but IIRC he was a pretty highly rated defender with size and versatility. Hes not going to fill up the stat sheet but he’ll play hard, has size, and shoot the open 3. I would be pretty content with that deal, he has big game experience too as does Rui now.

Kleber actually fits perfectly as a low usage backup big who fits playing with both Bam and Ware.

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