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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#381 » by Bakomagic » Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:53 pm

AdamTheGreek wrote:Well…we get to see Sexton 4 times per season.



Not something a contenting team should worry about.
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#382 » by Skybox » Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:56 pm

eyriq wrote:
bigdogdylan5 wrote:
eyriq wrote:What's the difference between Tyus and the other two?

Basketball IQ Sexton had a 1.65 Ast/TO ratio and 14.1% Turnover %. Tyus was 4.7 AST/TO with 7.4% turnover %.
Hmm, fair point. I thought maybe you had a typo and meant they all sucked on defense and were being avoided equally for that reason.


I like Tyus for this team but his value is wrapped up in ONE statistic...Sexton is a far more impactful player. He is superior in EVERY trait other than playmaking efficiency.

Guys that score 10 pts efficiently aren't the same as guys who score 20 pts routinely...ask Gary Harris

I hope we sign Tyus, but this Sexton thing is baffling...I wonder if he's made it clear that he wants a big raise and that he won't be re-signing in UTA.

I don't really like the fit with Ball but when the deal is that sweet - you grab him and figure it out or flip him at some point.
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#383 » by RichCollab » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:04 pm

Skybox wrote:
eyriq wrote:
bigdogdylan5 wrote:Basketball IQ Sexton had a 1.65 Ast/TO ratio and 14.1% Turnover %. Tyus was 4.7 AST/TO with 7.4% turnover %.
Hmm, fair point. I thought maybe you had a typo and meant they all sucked on defense and were being avoided equally for that reason.


I like Tyus for this team but his value is wrapped up in ONE statistic...Sexton is a far more impactful player. He is superior in EVERY trait other than playmaking efficiency.

Guys that score 10 pts efficiently aren't the same as guys who score 20 pts routinely...ask Gary Harris

I hope we sign Tyus, but this Sexton thing is baffling...I wonder if he's made it clear that he wants a big raise and that he won't be re-signing in UTA.

I don't really like the fit with Ball but when the deal is that sweet - you grab him and figure it out or flip him at some point.


Sexton is going to cost a lot more than Tyus. Sure if we had money laying around I would love Sexton.
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#384 » by bigdogdylan5 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:09 pm

Skybox wrote:
eyriq wrote:
bigdogdylan5 wrote:Basketball IQ Sexton had a 1.65 Ast/TO ratio and 14.1% Turnover %. Tyus was 4.7 AST/TO with 7.4% turnover %.
Hmm, fair point. I thought maybe you had a typo and meant they all sucked on defense and were being avoided equally for that reason.


I like Tyus for this team but his value is wrapped up in ONE statistic...Sexton is a far more impactful player. He is superior in EVERY trait other than playmaking efficiency.

Guys that score 10 pts efficiently aren't the same as guys who score 20 pts routinely...ask Gary Harris

I hope we sign Tyus, but this Sexton thing is baffling...I wonder if he's made it clear that he wants a big raise and that he won't be re-signing in UTA.

I don't really like the fit with Ball but when the deal is that sweet - you grab him and figure it out or flip him at some point.

Money is clearly the issue. Everyone including us are tightening up would be fine with both but I prefer Tyus with our roster and he is going to cost less and probably shorter deal. Like 19 million for Sexton or 8-10 for Tyus is a no brainer to me.
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#385 » by Knightro » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:15 pm

Read on Twitter


Equivalent of the full MLE over 3 years.

But they used bird rights and still have access to their full MLE.
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#386 » by RookieStar » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:48 pm

Knightro wrote:I can’t say for sure, but it sure sounds like LeBron is greasing the wheels for a potential return to Cleveland…


What would CLE give up?
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#387 » by Knightro » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:54 pm

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Knightro wrote:I can’t say for sure, but it sure sounds like LeBron is greasing the wheels for a potential return to Cleveland…


What would CLE give up?


Oh it’s very complicated.

Because the Cavs are over the 2nd apron they cannot aggregate multiple salaries in a trade.

So they would have to dump a contract, probably Strus, without taking much/any salary back just to get under the 2nd apron.

Then once they’ve done that, it would be something like Garland/Allen for LeBron.
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#388 » by RookieStar » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:54 pm

VFX wrote:The Hornets have gotten exponentially better this offseason with the moves they have made.

I noticed their twitter handle says "New Era. New Mindset" and wow that has been obvious with some of their draft and trade choices.


Better?

They onlu have 1 C and he is a 2nd round rookie. Their "backup" is a sophomore 6'9 RAW as heck dude
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#389 » by RookieStar » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:56 pm

Knightro wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Knightro wrote:I can’t say for sure, but it sure sounds like LeBron is greasing the wheels for a potential return to Cleveland…


What would CLE give up?


Oh it’s very complicated.

Because the Cavs are over the 2nd apron they cannot aggregate multiple salaries in a trade.

So they would have to dump a contract, probably Strus, without taking much/any salary back just to get under the 2nd apron.

Then once they’ve done that, it would be something like Garland/Allen for LeBron.


But they are trading with the lakers. lol

They prob demand DON Mobley and picks
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#390 » by VFX » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:58 pm

RookieStar wrote:
VFX wrote:The Hornets have gotten exponentially better this offseason with the moves they have made.

I noticed their twitter handle says "New Era. New Mindset" and wow that has been obvious with some of their draft and trade choices.


Better?

They onlu have 1 C and he is a 2nd round rookie. Their "backup" is a sophomore 6'9 RAW as heck dude


I meant in the long term. Not next season.

They acquired a bunch of really smart high character players, which is a departure from what they used to do. Sion James, Sexton, Kon, and Kalkbrenner fit that more than Ball, Miller, and Bridges.
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#391 » by RookieStar » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:59 pm

VFX wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
VFX wrote:The Hornets have gotten exponentially better this offseason with the moves they have made.

I noticed their twitter handle says "New Era. New Mindset" and wow that has been obvious with some of their draft and trade choices.


Better?

They onlu have 1 C and he is a 2nd round rookie. Their "backup" is a sophomore 6'9 RAW as heck dude


I meant in the long term. Not next season.

They acquired a bunch of really smart high character players, which is a departure from what they used to do. Sion James, Sexton, Kon, and Kalkbrenner fit that more than Ball, Miller, and Bridges.


Ah yeah of course... but don't they at least try to compete?
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Post#392 » by VFX » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:01 pm

RookieStar wrote:
VFX wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Better?

They onlu have 1 C and he is a 2nd round rookie. Their "backup" is a sophomore 6'9 RAW as heck dude


I meant in the long term. Not next season.

They acquired a bunch of really smart high character players, which is a departure from what they used to do. Sion James, Sexton, Kon, and Kalkbrenner fit that more than Ball, Miller, and Bridges.


Ah yeah of course... but don't they at least try to compete?


Yeah they will be better than they were last season, which doesn’t say much tbh. I just think they made smart offseason choices to reset their culture.
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#393 » by Knightro » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:03 pm

VFX wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
VFX wrote:The Hornets have gotten exponentially better this offseason with the moves they have made.

I noticed their twitter handle says "New Era. New Mindset" and wow that has been obvious with some of their draft and trade choices.


Better?

They onlu have 1 C and he is a 2nd round rookie. Their "backup" is a sophomore 6'9 RAW as heck dude


I meant in the long term. Not next season.

They acquired a bunch of really smart high character players, which is a departure from what they used to do. Sion James, Sexton, Kon, and Kalkbrenner fit that more than Ball, Miller, and Bridges.


But Ball, Miller and Bridges are all signed for long-term and aren’t necessarily going anywhere, right?
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#394 » by BCS » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:30 pm

Knightro wrote:
Read on Twitter


Equivalent of the full MLE over 3 years.

But they used bird rights and still have access to their full MLE.
Great deal for Milwaukee. It seemed Portis wanted to get paid, I thought he'd want more than the MLE after all the discounts he has given them. At the MLE, he could've had options and pressured them.

I guess that is what happens when you already have a ring, he really wants to be there.

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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#395 » by AdamTheGreek » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:06 am

Pretty fascinating that Jabari Smith Jr. is likely ending up with a contract a little less than half what Paolo will get.
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#397 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:25 am

AdamTheGreek wrote:Pretty fascinating that Jabari Smith Jr. is likely ending up with a contract a little less than half what Paolo will get.


Wonder what Chet will get. Maybe just a tad more than what Suggs got?
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#398 » by RichCollab » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:35 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:
AdamTheGreek wrote:Pretty fascinating that Jabari Smith Jr. is likely ending up with a contract a little less than half what Paolo will get.


Wonder what Chet will get. Maybe just a tad more than what Suggs got?


Chet will get Max.
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#399 » by RookieStar » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:39 am

BTW... with this Beasley gambling thing, DET would probably throw more for NAW right now.


Think we lose on that.
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Re: 2025-2026: Around the League 

Post#400 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:44 am

I can see them going in on Levert tho.
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