Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Jon Horst the Wizard

jschligs · Post #1081 » by **jschligs** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:39 am

tedbrogen wrote:
jschligs wrote:As long as he doesn’t play in the playoffs whatever.

He started the first four playoff games last year…

I will foolishly choose to believe Doc will have learned come next playoffs. Either way, cheap salary filler contract for a guy who can soak up regular season minutes. What I like is most of our contracts so far are (obliviously) on the short and cheap side.

ShootingtheJ · Post #1082 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:39 am

Never sign veterans that aren't playoff caliber. Prince isn't playoff caliber.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #1083 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:41 am

Wonka wrote:
LittleRooster wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:glad prince is back personally at that price. dont get the hate whatsoever. dont need to start him tho

Have you met Doc?

We needed to Doc proof the roster. How have people already forgotten that he STARTED this guy at the two? Blatant failure.

there is literally no way to "docproof" or "coach proof" a lineup. what a silly way to build a team

prince is an outstanding add for the money. culture guy. shooter. play him at the 3-4 in a decent minute back up role. if we move kuzma and patc he becomes a clutch contributor instantly

soxperry · Post #1084 » by **soxperry** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:42 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:Never sign veterans that aren't playoff caliber. Prince isn't playoff caliber.

on a vet min, i dont care. we were always going to have a few guys on the roster who dont matter. at least there is some continuity with him.

Frank Nova · Post #1085 » by **Frank Nova** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:43 am

Losing Brook for nothing pisses me off so much. What awful asset management, just awful.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #1086 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:44 am

Turk Nowitzki wrote:He's not like the worst player ever or anything but you know Doc is gonna roll him out as a starter again.

if we trotted out the exact same team as last year minus brook with a different center.....and got right back to the same spot we were in for the playoffs it would be a glorious season

BigO · Post #1087 » by **BigO** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:44 am

Matches Malone wrote:Doc and Ham love them some TP, so to think he'll be used sparingly even on a vet min, seems optimistic. Rather he just not be on the roster.

I look forward to seeing a starting lineup of Prince and Kuzma.

Prince is the epitome of a one dimensonal player. Can only shoot standing still.Can't rebound,not a good passer.Not a good defender.

And Doc loves him and apparently so does Horst.

stillgotgame · Post #1088 » by **stillgotgame** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:45 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:Never sign veterans that aren't playoff caliber. Prince isn't playoff caliber.

For minimum when they shoot 40+% from 3, why not?
Don’t blame Horst for Doc’s incompetence. Horst built a roster capable of beating the Eastern Conference champion w/o Lillard.
It’s not his decision to get rid of Doc. If it was Doc would be long gone. Anyone with half a basketball mind can see how useless Doc is. Unfortunately our owners only have 1/4 of a brain combined.

BroncoBuck · Post #1089 » by **BroncoBuck** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:45 am

League minimum guys who have a legitimate skill are good to have. Prince is a top notch three point shooter. That’s a fine deal.

Ajax, Livingston and Smith (gets a pass for now) haven’t shown a legitimate skill.

BroncoBuck · Post #1090 » by **BroncoBuck** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:46 am

Frank Nova wrote:Losing Brook for nothing pisses me off so much. What awful asset management, just awful.

They tried to trade him last year and nobody wanted him. They blew it when they re-signed him.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #1091 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:47 am

soxperry wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:Never sign veterans that aren't playoff caliber. Prince isn't playoff caliber.

on a vet min, i dont care. we were always going to have a few guys on the roster who dont matter. at least there is some continuity with him.

the guy was universally agreed as a great vet min signing last year....led the league in 3 pt % for most of the year if im not mistaken.....but plays too many minutes at the wrpong position.......signs again on the same vet min....and fans are butt hurt....nuts

Post #1092 » by **Prez** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:48 am

Prince is a worthless player who our cancer of a coach inexplicably decided to start out of position for most of the season. So naturally Horst not only brings him back, but does so on a 2 year deal and gives him a PO. Stupid ass team.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #1093 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:48 am

BroncoBuck wrote:
Frank Nova wrote:Losing Brook for nothing pisses me off so much. What awful asset management, just awful.

They tried to trade him last year and nobody wanted him. They blew it when they re-signed him.

brook just signed for patc money. we ran the tires off that asset and needed every minute he gave us

blazza18 · Post #1094 » by **blazza18** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:48 am

Prince shot 44% from three and we were still better when he sat on the bench. Giving him an option is lunacy from Horst. Team can't help itself.

GoldenAntlers · Post #1095 » by **GoldenAntlers** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:49 am

Prez wrote:Prince is a worthless player who our cancer of a coach inexplicably decided to start out of position for most of the season. So naturally Horst not only brings him back, but does so on a 2 year deal and gives him a PO. Stupid ass team.

I get the frustration, but I don't think it's fair to take it out on Prince. He's useful.

Post #1096 » by **Prez** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:51 am

GoldenAntlers wrote:
Prez wrote:Prince is a worthless player who our cancer of a coach inexplicably decided to start out of position for most of the season. So naturally Horst not only brings him back, but does so on a 2 year deal and gives him a PO. Stupid ass team.
I get the frustration, but I don't think it's fair to take it out on Prince. He's useful.

Nah he’s pretty damn bad and there was no reason to bring him back after what we saw last year, let alone on a 2 year deal.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #1097 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:51 am

Prez wrote:Prince is a worthless player who our cancer of a coach inexplicably decided to start out of position for most of the season. So naturally Horst not only brings him back, but does so on a 2 year deal and gives him a PO. Stupid ass team.

the dude can play 2-4 effectively off the bench and shot 44% from 3 and is on a vet min deal.

our coach is a separate issue

yb90 · Post #1098 » by **yb90** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:51 am

If Prince is used as a back up he is a great minimum player.

drone3 · Post #1099 » by **drone3** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:51 am

The vet compensation makes TP a good deal. He comes off the bench and does his job

BigO · Post #1100 » by **BigO** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:51 am

soxperry wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:Never sign veterans that aren't playoff caliber. Prince isn't playoff caliber.

on a vet min, i dont care. we were always going to have a few guys on the roster who dont matter. at least there is some continuity with him.

It's pretty naive to think that they signed Prince to be a non-factor.If they weren't expecting much from this position, then take a flyer on a young guy .

This is a horrible signing,not because it costs too much, but because it means they see him as a key contributor.