Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks

[DOT]

He's NOT a clear upgrade over Cam. He does not fill anything we need off the bench. It's only a vet minimum except all we have to spend are vet minimum deals. It's not as simple as people make it sound. Slim pickings is the only rationale that makes sense but, hoping he surprises me.

He's obviously a clear upgrade over Cam Payne what are you smoking this morning? in the playoffs our whole bench averaged like 15 points per game, Clarkson clears that by himself, also saw on twitter that over the past couple of seasons he has posted an assist percentage on 24%. only Brunson has a higher percentage on the team, he's bringing scoring and play making off the bench. so again a clear upgrade over what we had.

43.6/33.6 career numbers vs 41.9/ 36.8. Where's the upgrade? He played more minutes than Cam so his PPG are higher. What will they be in a limited bench role? 2.9ast vs Cams 3.2ast and JC was playing more minutes. That's a drop off in playmaking.

He's not a playmaker. He's a chuck on bad teams. We have limited funds and still need a backup PG/Wing/C. Now we have less to spend. Hoping one of the kids can pass him up because if they can't, we are not improving with this move.

Imagine being apoplectic over Jordan Clarkson for the minimum lol

We have no cap space. All we can do is minimums and one $5.7M MLE. How many actual difference makers do you think are out there signing for what we can offer?

It's just like last year when people went nuclear that we let iHart walk when we literally offered him the most we could.

[Lord Commander]

Not upset but not excited either. This signing has no significant impact.

[Pr0nzingis]

"Instant offense"

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Amazing he had a bad game...

Not really. He had lots of them. The more amazing thing was how he got the bad game.

It woudn't be hard to make a worse video with Josh Hart.

Jordan ended that game with 25 points on 8\20, 6\9 FT. good? no but not terrible.

[JayTWill]

Why do people consider him an upgrade over Payne?

Because he can get to the rim, shoot, pass and score in bunches. Remember he was bought out of a rebuilding team not a dezperate free agent.

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But if he is doing all that with the same poor efficiency as Payne but on greater volume while turning the ball over a lot more and not playing defense how beneficial is that? And I assumed he was bought out because Ainge couldn't find any value for him on a $14M expiring contract.

The biggest difference I can see is that he gets to the line more often but he is also another guy looking for the ref to bail him out at times while not getting back on defense.

I'm hoping his efficiency and decision making improve around better talent but if not I hope the team adds another better player or one of the young guys steps up so Clarkson is closer to the 10th man in the rotation instead of the 8th man.

[Jalen Bluntson]

He's obviously a clear upgrade over Cam Payne what are you smoking this morning? in the playoffs our whole bench averaged like 15 points per game, Clarkson clears that by himself, also saw on twitter that over the past couple of seasons he has posted an assist percentage on 24%. only Brunson has a higher percentage on the team, he's bringing scoring and play making off the bench. so again a clear upgrade over what we had.

43.6/33.6 career numbers vs 41.9/ 36.8. Where's the upgrade? He played more minutes than Cam so his PPG are higher. What will they be in a limited bench role? 2.9ast vs Cams 3.2ast and JC was playing more minutes. That's a drop off in playmaking.

He's not a playmaker. He's a chuck on bad teams. We have limited funds and still need a backup PG/Wing/C. Now we have less to spend. Hoping one of the kids can pass him up because if they can't, we are not improving with this move.

Imagine being apoplectic over Jordan Clarkson for the minimum lol

We have no cap space. All we can do is minimums and one $5.7M MLE. How many actual difference makers do you think are out there signing for what we can offer?

It's just like last year when people went nuclear that we let iHart walk when we literally offered him the most we could.

Imagine not knowing what the definition of apoplectic is after using it in a sentence. Goid job bro.

We ONLY have vet mini deals and the TPMLE (which has apron issues if we use it) to fill out the roster. I would rather we started with positions of need when spending them. Clarkson on a mini isn't a big deal but, as I pointed out, statistically he's not an upgrade over Cam and he's really not improving the team IMO. It's a waste of money to me. They have other moves to make. Maybe this makes more sense to me after the roster is set.

Apoplectic?

[St Knick]

He is a career 43.6/33.6 shooter. Not much of an upgrade over Cam at all really.

Not excited at all. We don't need inefficient scoring off the bench. We need a PG/C and someone taller than 6'5 who plays defense. He fills none of those needs. We still don't have a HC and we are out here bringing in chuck and duck bench players? This is a problem not a solution IMO. I hate to lose faith in the FO but, this summer is off to a terrible start so far.

* we signed him for vet min; still have larger exception to get another guy (Horford?) that addresses your big man issue
* i think a change of scenery (loser to winning team on the court; Utah to NYC off the court) will reinvigorate him; he's got the attitude for NY
* it's a LONG summer, and if i learned anything as a knicks fan the past 30+ years, it's to practice patience and have faith in the FO (which we finally have one that's deserving of that trust)
* um, we have OG and Mikal, two of the better big wing defenders in the league. we simply need more depth, and this helps address that. lets see what's next...

[Kampuchea]

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[stuporman]

Duece needs to start

Start Clarkson

I'm waiting for your Knickname anointing ...I bet it's going to be a good one.

[St Knick]

i keep hearing about Cole Anthony rumors getting bought out (traded?) by the Grizz. Is he a possible target for us as well?

[nedleeds]

Why do people consider him an upgrade over Payne?

He’s different

hE cAn GEt sHoTs FoR HiMsElF

[RHODEY]

idk why ppl are upset with this signing, Clarkson is a clear upgrade over Payne, and he also provides scoring off the bench that we have been lacking.

i know the shooting percentages aren't great but he was one of the main vets on the terrible tanking team, so the last few years he was just chucking. Now that he's in a winning situation (or so i hope)and better players around the shot diet will change.

He's NOT a clear upgrade over Cam. He does not fill anything we need off the bench. It's only a vet minimum except all we have to spend are vet minimum deals. It's not as simple as people make it sound. Slim pickings is the only rationale that makes sense but, hoping he surprises me.

Better shot creation over Cam. Cam had those pull up 3's and the occasional layup....Clarkson has a way bigger bag, size and athleticism on offense. Cam was good at some things but we needed him to better at point guard things.... In addition to that bench still needed more scoring so ....here come Clarkson

And yeah I don't really like Clarkson or his game/chucking but I still gotta recognize its an upgrade over what we have in that department.

[KnicksGadfly]

Amazing he had a bad game...

Not really. He had lots of them. The more amazing thing was how he got the bad game.

It woudn't be hard to make a worse video with Josh Hart.

Jordan ended that game with 25 points on 8\20, 6\9 FT. good? no but not terrible.

The hell? No, it wouldn't be much harder because Josh Hart had much better games over the course of the season. The man almost averaged a double double and was shooting 52% from the field for a season. Josh Hart actively says his job is to make the jobs of the stars easier. You can find one bad game from Josh Hart, like you said. You can find multiple bad games from Clarkson because it's a pattern and a trend.

Jordan Clarkson is trash. People can't even find good things to say about him recently so they need to point to a 6MOY he won one entire contract length ago (by the way, around that time, Jordan Clarkson broke records for having the lowest amount of postseason win shares at -.6). Our only hope is that he's on a minimum contract and that we can find a coach that can bench him when he's hurting the team, cause this type of player, if you do not control him, he will absolutely hurt the team.

[stuporman]

Here's some mind numbing numbers from last season for JC...whatsisface from film school seems to suggest from them that he's better than the no pass chucker the common perception of him is. Time stamp is at 24:20 to go straight to those numbers since the current time url feature from youtube doesn't want to work for this site.

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[gavran]

i keep hearing about Cole Anthony rumors getting bought out (traded?) by the Grizz. Is he a possible target for us as well?

Is he a wing?

[Jalen Bluntson]

He is a career 43.6/33.6 shooter. Not much of an upgrade over Cam at all really.

Not excited at all. We don't need inefficient scoring off the bench. We need a PG/C and someone taller than 6'5 who plays defense. He fills none of those needs. We still don't have a HC and we are out here bringing in chuck and duck bench players? This is a problem not a solution IMO. I hate to lose faith in the FO but, this summer is off to a terrible start so far.

* we signed him for vet min; still have larger exception to get another guy (Horford?) that addresses your big man issue
* i think a change of scenery (loser to winning team on the court; Utah to NYC off the court) will reinvigorate him; he's got the attitude for NY
* it's a LONG summer, and if i learned anything as a knicks fan the past 30+ years, it's to practice patience and have faith in the FO (which we finally have one that's deserving of that trust)
* um, we have OG and Mikal, two of the better big wing defenders in the league. we simply need more depth, and this helps address that. lets see what's next...

We are scraping the barrel this summer. Clearly. All of the upgrade over Payne talk though? No. It's that simple. Statistically there is no difference that makes him an upgrade. I hope he surprises me but, there's nothing that excites me about him.

[Kampuchea]

Knicks title odds went up after Clarkson signing. East favorite now

https://www.si.com/betting/knicks-2026-finals-odds-show-they-re-eastern-conference-favorite-after-reported-jordan-clarkson-signing

[CharlesOakley]

I'm not sure how anyone can be mad at this signing given it's a minimum deal. Clarkson strengths our bench. Hopefully Hart will be on it next year and we play 10 guys.

[Jalen Bluntson]

idk why ppl are upset with this signing, Clarkson is a clear upgrade over Payne, and he also provides scoring off the bench that we have been lacking.

i know the shooting percentages aren't great but he was one of the main vets on the terrible tanking team, so the last few years he was just chucking. Now that he's in a winning situation (or so i hope)and better players around the shot diet will change.

He's NOT a clear upgrade over Cam. He does not fill anything we need off the bench. It's only a vet minimum except all we have to spend are vet minimum deals. It's not as simple as people make it sound. Slim pickings is the only rationale that makes sense but, hoping he surprises me.

Better shot creation over Cam. Cam had those pull up 3's and the occasional layup....Clarkson has a way bigger bag, size and athleticism on offense. Cam was good at some things but we needed him to better at point guard things.... In addition to that bench still needed more scoring so ....here come Clarkson

And yeah I don't really like Clarkson or his game/chucking but I still gotta recognize its an upgrade over what we have in that department.

Having a better bag is an upgrade but, it's not very efficient. We do need better shot creation off the bench because we basically had NONE. A lot of that was system oriented IMO. Bench usage was a glaring problem. The players themselves were weak in that regard though.

I'm not losing my mind but, I don't care for the move. Again, I hope he surprises me but, he's not a player I would have targeted. I'm no GM though. I'm just a guy looking at stats and remembering his game from watching him over the years.

[Enzo954]

Not really. He had lots of them. The more amazing thing was how he got the bad game.

It woudn't be hard to make a worse video with Josh Hart.

Jordan ended that game with 25 points on 8\20, 6\9 FT. good? no but not terrible.

People can't even find good things to say about him recently so they need to point to a 6MOY he won one entire contract length ago.

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[KnicksGadfly]

It woudn't be hard to make a worse video with Josh Hart.

Jordan ended that game with 25 points on 8\20, 6\9 FT. good? no but not terrible.

People can't even find good things to say about him recently so they need to point to a 6MOY he won one entire contract length ago.

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=DVhighlights

Lmao is this the game where he was chucking and Mike Breen called him out? I rest my case.