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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#21 » by PDXKnight » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:27 pm

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Chanse503 wrote:What’s the logic in signing a 34 year old with a torn Achille- the glazing here is next level


Makes Scoot the unquestionable starter (which he should have been since Day 1 and learning through the growing pains... but I digress) and gives him his vet mentor the team seems so desperate to want they were willing to take on 70+mil in salary.


That salary really is the killer in all this. With an equal playing field id take jrue as a 2 way threat over Dame now. But 10 mil for Dame or even the fullest mle vs jrue at 33 suddenly Dame looks like a more appealing option
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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#22 » by oldfishermen » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:31 pm

Warning, this will upset some Dame fans.

Dame can mentor shooting. Thats it! He knows nothing about teaching defense. He mentored Simons, and messed him up.

Jrue is 1000% better mentor than Dame.
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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#23 » by Case2012 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:33 pm

Scoot isn't even starting this year over Jrue... Although i think he should.

Sign Dame to a 2 year vet minimum, let Scoot and Jrue play this year out. If Scoot can't win the starting job from 35 year old Jrue, then trade him next summer. If he does earn the starting job, great! I want to see it. But if he can't, trade him before he's due for a new deal. Sink or swim. Dame isn't even gonna play and we have the roster spot and he's at the very least, worse case scenario, a shooter off the bench, that just happens to be one of the best all time.

I wouldn't be shocked if he signed in LA or Miami now that's a FA for the first time, but he's talked about finishing his career here. We could still build a team the right way and include Dame at this price, it doesn't have to be either or. He's the best Blazer of all time IMO, and it's a no brainer for the city, the franchise and the fans to bring him home, I mean he still lives here and has businesses here. It's a feel good story but it also makes sense for the team. We need this after everything we've been through the last 5 years.

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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#24 » by Case2012 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:38 pm

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BlazersBroncos wrote:Dame would be the 3rd string PG when he comes back in 2026. I doubt there is interest either way.


Why would he be a third string pg?

You think Scoot is better? You think Chauncey wouldn't start Dame? LOL, wow. His injury definitely affects even the best players, but if anyone could come back from this, he could. But lets say he plays backup and if he makes it back at 60% of what he was, he's still better than Scoot will ever be. Trade Scoot and Shaedon plus some picks for an upgrade somewhere and try and win in 2026. a PG lineup of old Jrue and Dame would still be dope af. Damn, Dame's revenge tour when healthy is going to be nuts.

Adding dame to the defense we have would be the most ideal team possible for him.

God, this thread is going to be so depressing.

He put up 25, 7 and 5 last year.. After years of having to read all the delusional Dame hate from other teams fanbases now i have to read it from Blazer fans.


Portland is not going to make moves in 25/26 with the idea in mind that in a year Dame will be a good bench scorer. Thats completely insane.


What role do you think Dame is going to have on a team going forward when he returns? 3rd stringer playing minutes in blowouts? That's completely insane.
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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#25 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:01 pm

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Why would he be a third string pg?

You think Scoot is better? You think Chauncey wouldn't start Dame? LOL, wow. His injury definitely affects even the best players, but if anyone could come back from this, he could. But lets say he plays backup and if he makes it back at 60% of what he was, he's still better than Scoot will ever be. Trade Scoot and Shaedon plus some picks for an upgrade somewhere and try and win in 2026. a PG lineup of old Jrue and Dame would still be dope af. Damn, Dame's revenge tour when healthy is going to be nuts.

Adding dame to the defense we have would be the most ideal team possible for him.

God, this thread is going to be so depressing.

He put up 25, 7 and 5 last year.. After years of having to read all the delusional Dame hate from other teams fanbases now i have to read it from Blazer fans.


Portland is not going to make moves in 25/26 with the idea in mind that in a year Dame will be a good bench scorer. Thats completely insane.


What role do you think Dame is going to have on a team going forward when he returns? 3rd stringer playing minutes in blowouts? That's completely insane.


6th man. Or a starter on a win-now team with ring aspirations that has elite defense.

He just had the most serious sports injury there is at age 35. We just invested 70M in a different, healthy, 2-way guard. Dame just isnt a fit here.
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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#26 » by Case2012 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:21 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
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Portland is not going to make moves in 25/26 with the idea in mind that in a year Dame will be a good bench scorer. Thats completely insane.


What role do you think Dame is going to have on a team going forward when he returns? 3rd stringer playing minutes in blowouts? That's completely insane.


6th man. Or a starter on a win-now team with ring aspirations that has elite defense.

He just had the most serious sports injury there is at age 35. We just invested 70M in a different, healthy, 2-way guard. Dame just isnt a fit here.


He could have the same role here in 2026 if Joe does his job right (...).

Let Scoot fight for the starting job, if he can't win it, he's a bust and you should get something for him. a Dame minimum deal as the back up to Jrue or playing them together would be a pretty good back court.

We disagree, it what it is. Maybe I'm more a Dame fan than a Blazer fan. This franchise sucks, lies to their fans, dgaf about winning, hires yes men that suck at their jobs.

All Dame has ever done is give everything to this city, tried his best, carried his team, gave us years of the best sports memories a fanbase could ask for.

So yeah, I want him back in Portland. Idgaf about Jrue Holiday, he doesn't even want to play here. Maybe Dame doesn't either, but if he wanted to come back, he's earned the right to finish his career here. Joe's career here is gonna be over in a year anyways so he might as well do something to make the city feel good for once in his life.
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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#27 » by DaVoiceMaster » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:23 pm

m0ng0 wrote:Dame wanted out, screw him and his dolla$$$$$


The Blazers never built around him. Can't blame him for wanting a ring. That was never going to happen here.
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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#28 » by DaVoiceMaster » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:30 pm

Id sign Lillard to a 2-year vet minimum contract. He probably won't do that cuz he's probably hoping to make more in the 2nd year. However, he would be a great overall leader for this team. Sure, he's not going to mentor defense, but he can mentor everything else, which the team needs right now. I'd still look to capitalize on Jrue. I don't know that they'd get much out of Milwaukee, although I'd like him to go there. They may have a young guy or two we could get, along with Kuzma. I'd then waive Kuzma.
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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#29 » by Case2012 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:37 pm

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There's zero chance he wouldn't take that money coming off an Achilles, but he was not himself in Milwaukie. Rivers is straight trash and the system was give to the ball to Giannis. He's a 7ft Westbrook. Not the worst strategy, they won a ring like that, but he had depth and Jrue. They could have come up with a better plan that utilized Dame better and adjusted.

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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#30 » by The Sebastian Express » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:57 pm

Perhaps the most generous reading ever to believe Damian will be close to what he was after an Achilles injury at his age. Or that teams should make roster plans around him.
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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#31 » by Case2012 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:28 pm

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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#32 » by Norm2953 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:32 pm

It'll be interesting if Miami is willing to pay him the minimum to rehab wherever he wants to be
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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#33 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:42 pm

The Sebastian Express wrote:Perhaps the most generous reading ever to believe Damian will be close to what he was after an Achilles injury at his age. Or that teams should make roster plans around him.


Ya its basically magical thinking.
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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#34 » by wco81 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:45 pm

Supposedly Dame would have asked the Bucks for ways to exit even if he didn’t suffer the injury.

Supposedly he was struggling being away from his kids — guess he didn’t move them to Milwaukee.

He says he’s been contacted by contenders. He can sign with a team now or wait until next summer. If he signs now, he could rehab with the team, bond with teammates.
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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#35 » by The Sebastian Express » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:49 pm

He's very big about his kids. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go to Golden State and just have his family down there for a year or two on a minimum while he rehabs and then plays again next year. But we'll see.
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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#36 » by dunlop212 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:51 pm

Weren't there some hard feelings when he left PDX regarding a failure to trade him to Miami?
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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#37 » by zzaj » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:01 pm

The Sebastian Express wrote:He's very big about his kids. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go to Golden State and just have his family down there for a year or two on a minimum while he rehabs and then plays again next year. But we'll see.


Knowing the little we know about Lillard's mentality, I could see this being a reality. I'm not sure GS has this in their future plans though...
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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#38 » by The Sebastian Express » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:02 pm

zzaj wrote:
The Sebastian Express wrote:He's very big about his kids. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go to Golden State and just have his family down there for a year or two on a minimum while he rehabs and then plays again next year. But we'll see.


Knowing the little we know about Lillard's mentality, I could see this being a reality. I'm not sure GS has this in their future plans though...


I personally would only see him going to one of the California teams, Utah, Miami or Portland based on what he wants and him missing his kids. Especially in a rehab year.
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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#39 » by m0ng0 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:08 pm

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There's zero chance he wouldn't take that money coming off an Achilles, but he was not himself in Milwaukie. Rivers is straight trash and the system was give to the ball to Giannis. He's a 7ft Westbrook. Not the worst strategy, they won a ring like that, but he had depth and Jrue. They could have come up with a better plan that utilized Dame better and adjusted.

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Wait what? Dame failed in Milwaukee because of Doc Rivers ?
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Re: Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner 

Post#40 » by The Sebastian Express » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:11 pm

Honestly I agree with Gunderson's take that Giannis never fully dove into playing the best way with Dame in the pick and roll. Doc is terrible and I'm not sure why they went with him as a retread, but I think a lot of the responsibility is with Giannis.

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