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Re: The Mavericks looks pretty good 

Post#61 » by Archx » Tue Jul 1, 2025 10:51 pm

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:
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You totally ignored my questions and switched the subject :lol:


Yes because i am certainly not going to give Nico flowers because he made 2 or 3 good moves followed by dozens of really bad ones. And that's not even mentioning the Lakers trade. He "forced" Dirk to stop attending Mavs games, that's how bad it was/is. You'll keep defending him no matter what so there is no point.


He fired Dirk's close friend, Casey Smith, and traded Luka. Dirk took that personally and does not attend games anymore. Dirk is my favorit player and that sucks, but I dont hate Nico for doing what he thinks is right. It's just a company.


Lol... apparently you don't even know the half of it. But i'm not in the mood to even discuss this because you can go and look it up yourself.
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Re: The Mavericks looks pretty good 

Post#62 » by dirkdiggler4177 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 10:56 pm

Archx wrote:
dirkdiggler4177 wrote:
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Yes because i am certainly not going to give Nico flowers because he made 2 or 3 good moves followed by dozens of really bad ones. And that's not even mentioning the Lakers trade. He "forced" Dirk to stop attending Mavs games, that's how bad it was/is. You'll keep defending him no matter what so there is no point.


He fired Dirk's close friend, Casey Smith, and traded Luka. Dirk took that personally and does not attend games anymore. Dirk is my favorit player and that sucks, but I dont hate Nico for doing what he thinks is right. It's just a company.


Lol... apparently you don't even know the half of it. But i'm not in the mood to even discuss this because you can go and look it up yourself.


You sound upset
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Re: The Mavericks looks pretty good 

Post#63 » by Mr B » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:01 pm

Pointgod wrote:They look like a Luka Doncic away from being a serious playoff team…. Ooops

And Luka is only a serious playoff team away from being a contender.
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Re: The Mavericks looks pretty good 

Post#64 » by RJT2k » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:11 pm

tsherkin wrote:Interesting spin. Kyrie is out until January at the earliest. AD is gonna miss 20 games like usual. And nothing else matters after that.

A few years from now, Flagg might be developed enough to carry a team, but that's not even a guarantee at the moment.

I don't know how much I'd be selling on the PRESENT state of the Mavs. If Flagg pans out, then they will RECOVER from the Luka trade reasonably well, but they've got some old, injured star players who will have major availability issues and be into their decline.

This almost feels like a "LEAVE BRITTNEY ALONE" post for Nico...


Even with that all-world luckout into #1 pick, most of the talent on the wrong side of 30 , got a stale bag of chips for a 25 or 26 year old generational talent and it's just a crying shame.
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Re: The Mavericks looks pretty good 

Post#65 » by tsherkin » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:13 pm

RJT2k wrote:Even with that all-world luckout into #1 pick, most of the talent on the wrong side of 30 , got a stale bag of chips for a 25 or 26 year old generational talent and it's just a crying shame.


They'll recover. Dallas has actually been pretty on top of it the past quarter century or so. They have a title and three Finals appearances, they've fielded multiple MVP-level players, they're gonna be okay.
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Re: The Mavericks looks pretty good 

Post#66 » by Archx » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:21 am

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:
Archx wrote:
dirkdiggler4177 wrote:
He fired Dirk's close friend, Casey Smith, and traded Luka. Dirk took that personally and does not attend games anymore. Dirk is my favorit player and that sucks, but I dont hate Nico for doing what he thinks is right. It's just a company.


Lol... apparently you don't even know the half of it. But i'm not in the mood to even discuss this because you can go and look it up yourself.


You sound upset


:lol: Sure buddy.
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Re: The Mavericks looks pretty good 

Post#67 » by bledredwine » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:24 am

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dirkdiggler4177 wrote:PG: Kyrie Irving (33), D’Angelo Russell (29), Brandon Williams (25)
SG: Klay Thompson (35), Max Christie (22), Jaden Hardy (22), Miles Kelly (22 – 2-way)
SF: Cooper Flagg (18), Caleb Martin (29), Naji Marshall (27), Ryan Nembhard (22 – 2-way)
PF: Anthony Davis (32), P.J. Washington (26), Kessler Edwards (24)
C: Dereck Lively II (21), Daniel Gafford (26), Dwight Powell (33)



I looked at this rotation for a good fifteen seconds trying to figure out what on earth the minutes distribution meant... why only 18 mpg for Cooper Flagg? How does any of this work?

And then I realized it's the players' ages


:lol: I'm glad that I was too oblivious to notice or I would have done the same.
LeBron has a 17.8% field goal percentage and a 12.5% 3-point percentage in clutch situations, and also made 20 of 116 game winning/tying shots in 4th/OT during his career :wink:
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Re: The Mavericks looks pretty good 

Post#68 » by Dan Z » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:26 am

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:Everybody considers Nico a horrible GM, but he made some really great moves when you ignore the Luka trade. This team is very talented and does not have a hole anywhere except point guard till Kyrie comes back in late January.

Vets: Kyrie, Anthony, and Klay.
Prime: PJ Washington, Daniel Gafford, and Naji Marshall.
Young and upcoming: Cooper Flagg (18), Dereck Lively II (21), Max Christie (22) Jaden Hardy (22) and the undrafted prospects Miles Kelly (22 – 2-way) and Ryan Nembhard (22 – 2-way)

This is what the Mavs look like today. Hopefully, they sign Dante Exum:
PG: Kyrie Irving (33), D’Angelo Russell (29), Brandon Williams (25)
SG: Klay Thompson (35), Max Christie (22), Jaden Hardy (22), Miles Kelly (22 – 2-way)
SF: Cooper Flagg (18), Caleb Martin (29), Naji Marshall (27), Ryan Nembhard (22 – 2-way)
PF: Anthony Davis (32), P.J. Washington (26), Kessler Edwards (24)
C: Dereck Lively II (21), Daniel Gafford (26), Dwight Powell (33)

Nico Harrison has really done a good job for a long time. Flipped KP for Dinwiddie (who played great in that playoff run), then later turned Dinwiddie into Kyrie, who was elite next to Luka. Tanked smart and landed Dereck Lively, a perfect fit who changed their defense. At the deadline, he grabbed Gafford and PJ Washington—no Finals without them, they totally changed the team chemistry. Added Klay Thompson, got Naji Marshall on a great value deal (8M/year), and brought back Exum from Europe, who became a key guy.


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Why do you have Kyrie at PG? Do you have information that he'll be back soon and be back to the player he once was?
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Re: The Mavericks looks pretty good 

Post#69 » by dirkdiggler4177 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 8:27 am

Dan Z wrote:
dirkdiggler4177 wrote:Everybody considers Nico a horrible GM, but he made some really great moves when you ignore the Luka trade. This team is very talented and does not have a hole anywhere except point guard till Kyrie comes back in late January.

Vets: Kyrie, Anthony, and Klay.
Prime: PJ Washington, Daniel Gafford, and Naji Marshall.
Young and upcoming: Cooper Flagg (18), Dereck Lively II (21), Max Christie (22) Jaden Hardy (22) and the undrafted prospects Miles Kelly (22 – 2-way) and Ryan Nembhard (22 – 2-way)

This is what the Mavs look like today. Hopefully, they sign Dante Exum:
PG: Kyrie Irving (33), D’Angelo Russell (29), Brandon Williams (25)
SG: Klay Thompson (35), Max Christie (22), Jaden Hardy (22), Miles Kelly (22 – 2-way)
SF: Cooper Flagg (18), Caleb Martin (29), Naji Marshall (27), Ryan Nembhard (22 – 2-way)
PF: Anthony Davis (32), P.J. Washington (26), Kessler Edwards (24)
C: Dereck Lively II (21), Daniel Gafford (26), Dwight Powell (33)

Nico Harrison has really done a good job for a long time. Flipped KP for Dinwiddie (who played great in that playoff run), then later turned Dinwiddie into Kyrie, who was elite next to Luka. Tanked smart and landed Dereck Lively, a perfect fit who changed their defense. At the deadline, he grabbed Gafford and PJ Washington—no Finals without them, they totally changed the team chemistry. Added Klay Thompson, got Naji Marshall on a great value deal (8M/year), and brought back Exum from Europe, who became a key guy.


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Why do you have Kyrie at PG? Do you have information that he'll be back soon and be back to the player he once was?


To match the picture and this is the team going forward for some years, more or less.
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Re: The Mavericks looks pretty good 

Post#70 » by dirkules_41 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:18 pm

Dan Z wrote:
dirkdiggler4177 wrote:Everybody considers Nico a horrible GM, but he made some really great moves when you ignore the Luka trade. This team is very talented and does not have a hole anywhere except point guard till Kyrie comes back in late January.

Vets: Kyrie, Anthony, and Klay.
Prime: PJ Washington, Daniel Gafford, and Naji Marshall.
Young and upcoming: Cooper Flagg (18), Dereck Lively II (21), Max Christie (22) Jaden Hardy (22) and the undrafted prospects Miles Kelly (22 – 2-way) and Ryan Nembhard (22 – 2-way)

This is what the Mavs look like today. Hopefully, they sign Dante Exum:
PG: Kyrie Irving (33), D’Angelo Russell (29), Brandon Williams (25)
SG: Klay Thompson (35), Max Christie (22), Jaden Hardy (22), Miles Kelly (22 – 2-way)
SF: Cooper Flagg (18), Caleb Martin (29), Naji Marshall (27), Ryan Nembhard (22 – 2-way)
PF: Anthony Davis (32), P.J. Washington (26), Kessler Edwards (24)
C: Dereck Lively II (21), Daniel Gafford (26), Dwight Powell (33)

Nico Harrison has really done a good job for a long time. Flipped KP for Dinwiddie (who played great in that playoff run), then later turned Dinwiddie into Kyrie, who was elite next to Luka. Tanked smart and landed Dereck Lively, a perfect fit who changed their defense. At the deadline, he grabbed Gafford and PJ Washington—no Finals without them, they totally changed the team chemistry. Added Klay Thompson, got Naji Marshall on a great value deal (8M/year), and brought back Exum from Europe, who became a key guy.


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Why do you have Kyrie at PG? Do you have information that he'll be back soon and be back to the player he once was?

I mean Kyrie doesn't depend on his exhilarating athleticism very much and is more about finesse and shooting, so I think the general consensus and expectation is that he'll return in pretty effective shape.
ACL related time missed also keeps decreasing over the last decade or so, so I think there's reason to be optimistic for early next year.
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Re: The Mavericks looks pretty good 

Post#71 » by maverick_41 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:09 pm

Please don't fool yourself by putting Kyrie name in this squad. He is not Kyrie we used to know anymore. Less explosiveness, less dribble penetration and finishing at the rim.

At best he will be a sharpshooter. Write "Duncan Robinson" instead to be correct.
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Re: The Mavericks looks pretty good 

Post#72 » by kobyz » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:12 pm

The Luka trade was also a grate move, if not Kyrie injury they win the title
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Re: The Mavericks looks pretty good 

Post#73 » by chrisab123 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:13 pm

Luka trade was a terrible deal because Niko left assets on the table. Has nothing to do with AD at all, but Luka isn’t really a winning player. He’s literally James Harden from 10 years ago without the crippling strip club addiction.
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Re: The Mavericks looks pretty good 

Post#74 » by MavsDirk41 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:20 pm

kobyz wrote:The Luka trade was also a grate move, if not Kyrie injury they win the title



You forget about Anthony Davis reinjuring his groin the first game he played with the Mavs and missing the next 6 or so plus weeks of the season. Regardless of Irving injury they were not making any noise without Davis.
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Re: The Mavericks looks pretty good 

Post#75 » by djsunyc » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:22 pm

i'm picking dallas the team lillard signs with IF he is healthy by the end of the year.

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