Semi-OT: Bucks waived Lillard to sign Turner

[Case2012]

everybody remembers he tried to pull that trade request back before the front office kicked him out the door.

He offered to report specifically until they could work out a deal with Miami, not to pull the trade request completely and stay a Blazer. This has been beaten to death, so no, apparently everybody doesn't remember.

Source? I call BS.

[m0ng0]

everybody remembers he tried to pull that trade request back before the front office kicked him out the door.

He offered to report specifically until they could work out a deal with Miami, not to pull the trade request completely and stay a Blazer. This has been beaten to death, so no, apparently everybody doesn't remember.

Source? I call BS.

What's yours?

[Case2012]

everybody remembers he tried to pull that trade request back before the front office kicked him out the door.

He offered to report specifically until they could work out a deal with Miami, not to pull the trade request completely and stay a Blazer. This has been beaten to death, so no, apparently everybody doesn't remember.

Ya. Dame asked out. Full stop. Whether that was warranted (it was) due to our incompetent roster building is another issue.

But he never rescinded his request.

https://www.blazersedge.com/2023/9/28/23895226/damian-lillard-trade-request-joe-cronin-portland-trail-blazers-miami-heat-milwaukee-bucks

"As late as September, former Portland Trail Blazers guard Damian Lillard was willing to return to the team, rescinding his early-summer trade request to the Miami Heat, but the franchise told him he could not remain. That bombshell was dropped by Chris Haynes of Bleacher Report in an extensive piece covering the trade that sent Lillard to the Milwaukee Bucks this week.

Haynes, long the best source for information on Portland’s former franchise-leading guard, detailed Lillard’s request to join the Heat—made public at the start of July—and the blunted negotiations that followed throughout the summer.

Haynes then relays that Lillard and Trail Blazers General Manager Joe Cronin met privately at Lillard’s home on September 5th to update and clarify their positions. Per Haynes, Cronin made clear that any Miami deal would cost the Florida squad multiple assets. At that point, Lillard indicated that if a deal couldn’t be done, he would prefer to return to the Blazers, rescinding his request.

From the original article https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10091305-inside-the-messy-divorce-between-damian-lillard-and-portland-trail-blazers

"Lillard then said if a deal couldn't be worked out with the Heat, he would prefer to rescind his trade request and return to the Trail Blazers.

Cronin's response to the seven-time All-Star was that there was no coming back.

Lillard was shocked, sources said. He said it was discouraging to hear he couldn't return, but added that he didn't want to be somewhere he wasn't wanted, and he ended the meeting."

Read on Twitter

?s=20

[m0ng0]

Ahhh yes I remember now, my bad

[dckingsfan]

Just curious, since he is going to miss the entirety of this upcoming season - do we care at this point?

[Blazinaway]

Just curious, since he is going to miss the entirety of this upcoming season - do we care at this point?

I don't think we should care in any regard, he had his time here and it was good and thanks for the memories, he moved on as did the team with younger guys and hopefully a developing identify, no need for Dame period

[Case2012]

Read on Twitter

All the Dame haters can relax. There's no way in hell that spineless sack of **** Joe would have the balls to ask him back anyways after forcing him out then framing it as the Blazers being the victims.

Seeing him in a Lakers jersey would suck so bad. I still think the Blazers would be the best option but the Celtics or GS would be a good choice as well. Probably GS though. It would be so fun to watch him and Steph get hot the same game from deep.

[Walton1one]

So LAL ends up with Ayton, Dame and Grant?

[DusterBuster]

He offered to report specifically until they could work out a deal with Miami, not to pull the trade request completely and stay a Blazer. This has been beaten to death, so no, apparently everybody doesn't remember.

Ya. Dame asked out. Full stop. Whether that was warranted (it was) due to our incompetent roster building is another issue.

But he never rescinded his request.

https://www.blazersedge.com/2023/9/28/23895226/damian-lillard-trade-request-joe-cronin-portland-trail-blazers-miami-heat-milwaukee-bucks

"As late as September, former Portland Trail Blazers guard Damian Lillard was willing to return to the team, rescinding his early-summer trade request to the Miami Heat, but the franchise told him he could not remain. That bombshell was dropped by Chris Haynes of Bleacher Report in an extensive piece covering the trade that sent Lillard to the Milwaukee Bucks this week.

Haynes, long the best source for information on Portland’s former franchise-leading guard, detailed Lillard’s request to join the Heat—made public at the start of July—and the blunted negotiations that followed throughout the summer.

Haynes then relays that Lillard and Trail Blazers General Manager Joe Cronin met privately at Lillard’s home on September 5th to update and clarify their positions. Per Haynes, Cronin made clear that any Miami deal would cost the Florida squad multiple assets. At that point, Lillard indicated that if a deal couldn’t be done, he would prefer to return to the Blazers, rescinding his request.

From the original article https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10091305-inside-the-messy-divorce-between-damian-lillard-and-portland-trail-blazers

"Lillard then said if a deal couldn't be worked out with the Heat, he would prefer to rescind his trade request and return to the Trail Blazers.

Cronin's response to the seven-time All-Star was that there was no coming back.

Lillard was shocked, sources said. He said it was discouraging to hear he couldn't return, but added that he didn't want to be somewhere he wasn't wanted, and he ended the meeting."

Read on Twitter

?s=20

There were a couple different reports of this story. One side said he was rescinding the request, other side it wasn't so much rescinding it as much as he was willing to play half the season in Portland while the Blazers kept working with Miami to find a deal if it took longer.

[Case2012]

Ya. Dame asked out. Full stop. Whether that was warranted (it was) due to our incompetent roster building is another issue.

But he never rescinded his request.

https://www.blazersedge.com/2023/9/28/23895226/damian-lillard-trade-request-joe-cronin-portland-trail-blazers-miami-heat-milwaukee-bucks

"As late as September, former Portland Trail Blazers guard Damian Lillard was willing to return to the team, rescinding his early-summer trade request to the Miami Heat, but the franchise told him he could not remain. That bombshell was dropped by Chris Haynes of Bleacher Report in an extensive piece covering the trade that sent Lillard to the Milwaukee Bucks this week.

Haynes, long the best source for information on Portland’s former franchise-leading guard, detailed Lillard’s request to join the Heat—made public at the start of July—and the blunted negotiations that followed throughout the summer.

Haynes then relays that Lillard and Trail Blazers General Manager Joe Cronin met privately at Lillard’s home on September 5th to update and clarify their positions. Per Haynes, Cronin made clear that any Miami deal would cost the Florida squad multiple assets. At that point, Lillard indicated that if a deal couldn’t be done, he would prefer to return to the Blazers, rescinding his request.

From the original article https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10091305-inside-the-messy-divorce-between-damian-lillard-and-portland-trail-blazers

"Lillard then said if a deal couldn't be worked out with the Heat, he would prefer to rescind his trade request and return to the Trail Blazers.

Cronin's response to the seven-time All-Star was that there was no coming back.

Lillard was shocked, sources said. He said it was discouraging to hear he couldn't return, but added that he didn't want to be somewhere he wasn't wanted, and he ended the meeting."

Read on Twitter

?s=20

There were a couple different reports of this story. One side said he was rescinding the request, other side it wasn't so much rescinding it as much as he was willing to play half the season in Portland while the Blazers kept working with Miami to find a deal if it took longer.

Source?

Haynes was the one that reported it and they're boys so It's basically the same thing as Dame saying it himself with the way things get leaked these days as reporters being the mouth piece for players and agents.

I could be wrong but i did a pretty deep dive since I picked up on a particular tone in the replies.

[DusterBuster]

https://www.blazersedge.com/2023/9/28/23895226/damian-lillard-trade-request-joe-cronin-portland-trail-blazers-miami-heat-milwaukee-bucks

"As late as September, former Portland Trail Blazers guard Damian Lillard was willing to return to the team, rescinding his early-summer trade request to the Miami Heat, but the franchise told him he could not remain. That bombshell was dropped by Chris Haynes of Bleacher Report in an extensive piece covering the trade that sent Lillard to the Milwaukee Bucks this week.

Haynes, long the best source for information on Portland’s former franchise-leading guard, detailed Lillard’s request to join the Heat—made public at the start of July—and the blunted negotiations that followed throughout the summer.

Haynes then relays that Lillard and Trail Blazers General Manager Joe Cronin met privately at Lillard’s home on September 5th to update and clarify their positions. Per Haynes, Cronin made clear that any Miami deal would cost the Florida squad multiple assets. At that point, Lillard indicated that if a deal couldn’t be done, he would prefer to return to the Blazers, rescinding his request.

From the original article https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10091305-inside-the-messy-divorce-between-damian-lillard-and-portland-trail-blazers

"Lillard then said if a deal couldn't be worked out with the Heat, he would prefer to rescind his trade request and return to the Trail Blazers.

Cronin's response to the seven-time All-Star was that there was no coming back.

Lillard was shocked, sources said. He said it was discouraging to hear he couldn't return, but added that he didn't want to be somewhere he wasn't wanted, and he ended the meeting."

Read on Twitter

?s=20

There were a couple different reports of this story. One side said he was rescinding the request, other side it wasn't so much rescinding it as much as he was willing to play half the season in Portland while the Blazers kept working with Miami to find a deal if it took longer.

Source?

Haynes was the one that reported it and they're boys so It's basically the same thing as Dame saying it himself with the way things get leaked these days as reporters being the mouth piece for players and agents.

I could be wrong but i did a pretty deep dive since I picked up on a particular tone in the replies.

Dawg, this was 2 years ago... I'm not spending time out of my day to dig that **** up.

[Case2012]

There were a couple different reports of this story. One side said he was rescinding the request, other side it wasn't so much rescinding it as much as he was willing to play half the season in Portland while the Blazers kept working with Miami to find a deal if it took longer.

Source?

Haynes was the one that reported it and they're boys so It's basically the same thing as Dame saying it himself with the way things get leaked these days as reporters being the mouth piece for players and agents.

I could be wrong but i did a pretty deep dive since I picked up on a particular tone in the replies.

Dawg, this was 2 years ago... I'm not spending time out of my day to dig that **** up.

HA, fair enough but some other posters were pretty adamant I was wrong and it's dead at work so i pulled a few sources. Then again it was the first google hit after searching "Dame rescinds portland trade request"

[Shem]

Read on Twitter

[Shem]

Watch on YouTube

[Case2012]

I think he sits out the season and signs with us after Joe gets canned. Again, in this podcast they talk about how he tried to come back and they said no. A lot of people have said Dame wants to come back. I've heard it from multiple players, people close to him etc on social media.

[The Sebastian Express]

I think he sits out the season and signs with us after 2 faced Joe gets canned. Again, in this podcast they talk about how he tried to come back and they said no. Been awfully quiet in here since i posted those sources.. A lot of people have said Dame wants to come back. I've heard it from multiple players, people close to him etc on social media.

I think it's been quiet because we all remember that it wasn't a trade request rescind, it was a 'trade right now but still want to go to Miami once everything can be worked out' rescinding.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/when-no-one-is-90011893

Here's again a point where it's very much dependent on which viewpoint you are sympathetic to. Do you believe Lillard deserves the chance to walk back his request and mend those broken fences? Do you believe that Cronin had every right to say you picked a direction and we're sticking with it? I believe there's room for both views to exist and to also believe that both are also right. There's also the fact that this return was only temporary, a way for the Blazers to extend talks into the season that would ultimately land Lillard in Miami.

This is from the article that Danny Marang wrote afterwards. You may remember this article because he posted that he only included the parts about his personal conversations with Damian with Damian's permission. While I do not trust Marang overall, when he's citing direct conversations and phone calls with a player with the player's permission, I will trust that one.

But mostly I feel people might think arguing with you on this topic is fruitless. You're very set in your frustration and anger. While that's understandable, you aren't exactly open to seeing other views or hearing other news and just want to get into it again and again. I think that combined with what the rest of us remember is why it's 'been awfully quiet'.

[Case2012]

I think he sits out the season and signs with us after 2 faced Joe gets canned. Again, in this podcast they talk about how he tried to come back and they said no. Been awfully quiet in here since i posted those sources.. A lot of people have said Dame wants to come back. I've heard it from multiple players, people close to him etc on social media.

I think it's been quiet because we all remember that it wasn't a trade request rescind, it was a 'trade right now but still want to go to Miami once everything can be worked out' rescinding.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/when-no-one-is-90011893

Here's again a point where it's very much dependent on which viewpoint you are sympathetic to. Do you believe Lillard deserves the chance to walk back his request and mend those broken fences? Do you believe that Cronin had every right to say you picked a direction and we're sticking with it? I believe there's room for both views to exist and to also believe that both are also right. There's also the fact that this return was only temporary, a way for the Blazers to extend talks into the season that would ultimately land Lillard in Miami.

This is from the article that Danny Marang wrote afterwards. You may remember this article because he posted that he only included the parts about his personal conversations with Damian with Damian's permission. While I do not trust Marang overall, when he's citing direct conversations and phone calls with a player with the player's permission, I will trust that one.

But mostly I feel people might think arguing with you on this topic is fruitless. You're very set in your frustration and anger. While that's understandable, you aren't exactly open to seeing other views or hearing other news and just want to get into it again and again. I think that combined with what the rest of us remember is why it's 'been awfully quiet'.

Feel better now? Been holding that in for a while now.

Set in my frustration and anger? Who am I arguing with? Who am i angry at other than this franchise for being tragic for the last 10 years? I'm really tired of your personal digs and passive aggressive comments for like what, 3 years? I have completely ignored them btw, despite my anger issues... What have I ever said about you personally? Or anyone on this board?

Is there anything else you would like to add?

I visit this site because I value the opinions and perspectives of all the posters here, that's why i spend so much time in this space. Whatever narrative you've built up in your mind about who I am reading my posts over the years, you can keep that to yourself. Instead of using that as validation to go out of your way to say negative things about me. Or you could mute my posts, which i've encouraged others to do if they don't like my contributions to this forum.

Have a nice 4th of July weekend. I'm gonna go **** off.

[Walton1one]

I don’t really have a dog in this fight, but I do think once Lillard crossed the threshold of demanding a trade, the ship had sailed and there was no coming back, no matter who said what, when, matters not the fact is he was traded and he’s gone, and he has since suffered a major injury at age 35, meaning I don’t see much value in him coming back nor do I have really much interest in him coming back but…

the reason I responded is more on your second point. This is a forum where POR fans of different views can come and have a discussion, and it has certainly started turning into a place where instead of having a constructive debate on what was posted, people are taking personal digs at other posters or labeling them as haters\excuse makers, myself included, instead of having a respect for differing viewpoints and debating the merits\facts of what was said

[Wizenheimer]

I think the problem with Dame rescinding his trade request was there was too much water under the bridge by that time and some of it was very toxic. I tend to think that Dame's agent colluding with Pat Riley created a situation that steered Dame on a path that poisoned the well.

from the one team only demand, to the agent's scorched earth tactics, to Riley's stinking low-ball offers thinking the Blazers were over a barrel and had no choice...all that left the Blazer front office with extremely hard feelings and an 'never-deal-with-these-Miami-asshats' position

I have no doubt that Dame felt betrayed by Cronin. And if Cronin was saying similar things to Dame that he said publicly, Dame had some justification for feeling betrayed. It sure looks like Cronin engineered the situation to the point Dame asked out. Maybe that was best for the franchise in the long run. It wasn't really Cronin's fault that the Blazers never made any legitimate attempt to build a winner around Dame. That was on Olshey and his damn ego. Cronin needed to dismantle Olshey's idiot roster. There was little chance to build a playoff team quickly after that.

[Norm2953]

Rather than focus on the past, whoever signs Dame will need to sign him to a 2 year deal for Dame. Most likely
he'll sit at home and collect his $22 Million until he's ready to return to the court